plan B. I really don't need my ride height sensors/valves anyway. Just simple.

[Rdenney]

Keith--does the presence of an accelerometer mean one-button leveling?

Rick "that would be cool" Denney

> Rob,
>
> Cool and you only need two air lines running to the bags, one for each
> side.
>
> I plan on selling the controller for those that want to build their own
> system, full on kits or anything in between
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Rob Mueller <
> robmueller>
> Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 6:49:42 PM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] plan B. I really don't need my ride height
> sensors/valves anyway. Just simple.
>
> Keith,
>
> WOW, what your system does leaves the OEM system for dead!
>
> When The Blue Streak was converted to right hand drive the Powerlevel
> dashboard control valves were moved and additional line was
> spliced in. The system leaks big time. I was going to rebuild the
> Powerlevel system but I think I'll just install one of your
> systems.
>
> I'm number two in the line after Scott N.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Keith
> V
> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 5:32 AM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] plan B. I really don't need my ride height
> sensors/valves anyway. Just simple.
>
> Rob
>
> I have been running one version or another of this system for about 3
> seasons, I've spun the controller twice and found better
> height sensors (cheaper and more available).
>
> I absolutely need to get some out there, see what people think, not
> arguing that.
>
> Micro level replaces the dumb electronics with a microprocessor and real
> height measurement. It adds campground leveling, a hand
> held remote control, and easier setting of ride height.
> --
> Keith
>
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[scott nutter1]

Rob,
I don't mind not being first in line. I can still lock out my system with no leaks.

In fact it might be best for me if you did install it before me. Then when you get to Houston you can give me pointers on what not to do!

Keith,
When you do get it on the market, I would probably get the whole kit. New compressor and all. I'm running out of room to mount it in the hood area.
Could the whole system be mounted in a bracket/housing and placed in the side cabinet that the guts of the current EL11 system occupies?

Scott.
--
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1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater.
Houston, Texas

 

[Keith V]

Rick,

Yep, press the camp button and watch the magic.

________________________________
From: Gmclist on behalf of Richard Denney
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 1:59:32 PM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] plan B. I really don't need my ride height sensors/valves anyway. Just simple.

Keith--does the presence of an accelerometer mean one-button leveling?

Rick "that would be cool" Denney

> Rob,
>
> Cool and you only need two air lines running to the bags, one for each
> side.
>
> I plan on selling the controller for those that want to build their own
> system, full on kits or anything in between
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Rob Mueller <
> robmueller>
> Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 6:49:42 PM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] plan B. I really don't need my ride height
> sensors/valves anyway. Just simple.
>
> Keith,
>
> WOW, what your system does leaves the OEM system for dead!
>
> When The Blue Streak was converted to right hand drive the Powerlevel
> dashboard control valves were moved and additional line was
> spliced in. The system leaks big time. I was going to rebuild the
> Powerlevel system but I think I'll just install one of your
> systems.
>
> I'm number two in the line after Scott N.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Keith
> V
> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 5:32 AM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] plan B. I really don't need my ride height
> sensors/valves anyway. Just simple.
>
> Rob
>
> I have been running one version or another of this system for about 3
> seasons, I've spun the controller twice and found better
> height sensors (cheaper and more available).
>
> I absolutely need to get some out there, see what people think, not
> arguing that.
>
> Micro level replaces the dumb electronics with a microprocessor and real
> height measurement. It adds campground leveling, a hand
> held remote control, and easier setting of ride height.
> --
> Keith
>
>
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[Keith V]

Scott,

The first units will be power level replacements. They will not include a compressor or a tank.

This is mostly because it's what I have.

However there is no reason it cannot be a EL2 replacement in the cabinet, it's just different wiring and parts.

________________________________
From: Gmclist on behalf of Scott Nutter
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 2:05:38 PM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] plan B. I really don't need my ride height sensors/valves anyway. Just simple.

Rob,
I don't mind not being first in line. I can still lock out my system with no leaks.

In fact it might be best for me if you did install it before me. Then when you get to Houston you can give me pointers on what not to do!

Keith,
When you do get it on the market, I would probably get the whole kit. New compressor and all. I'm running out of room to mount it in the hood area.
Could the whole system be mounted in a bracket/housing and placed in the side cabinet that the guts of the current EL11 system occupies?

Scott.
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1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater.
Houston, Texas

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[d c *mac* macdonald]

Anything in the works for EL 1?

* * * * * * * * * * *
* 73 - Mac, K2GKK/5 *
* (Since 30 Nov 53) *
* Oklahoma City, OK *
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* * * * * * * * * * *

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From: Gmclist on behalf of Keith V
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 19:31
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] plan B. I really don't need my ride height sensors/valves anyway. Just simple.

Scott,

The first units will be power level replacements. They will not include a compressor or a tank.

This is mostly because it's what I have.

However there is no reason it cannot be a EL2 replacement in the cabinet, it's just different wiring and parts.

________________________________
From: Gmclist on behalf of Scott Nutter
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 2:05:38 PM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] plan B. I really don't need my ride height sensors/valves anyway. Just simple.

Rob,
I don't mind not being first in line. I can still lock out my system with no leaks.

In fact it might be best for me if you did install it before me. Then when you get to Houston you can give me pointers on what not to do!

Keith,
When you do get it on the market, I would probably get the whole kit. New compressor and all. I'm running out of room to mount it in the hood area.
Could the whole system be mounted in a bracket/housing and placed in the side cabinet that the guts of the current EL11 system occupies?

Scott.
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1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater.
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[Keith V]

it's all in the works, just a matter of putting parts together, the controller should be the same for them all.
Well EL2's dual compressor may or may not work

> Anything in the works for EL 1?
>
>
> * * * * * * * * * * *
> * 73 - Mac, K2GKK/5 *
> * (Since 30 Nov 53) *
> * Oklahoma City, OK *
> * USAF, Ret'd 61-81 *
> ** FAA, Ret'd 94-10 *
> * * * * * * * * * * *

--
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[Matt Colie]

Keith,

Power Level (PL)is the original with a compressor, manual valves and all air control.
ElectroLevel (EL1) is the kind that has a single compressor (maybe a tank) and lots of valves in a cabinet and switches.
ElectroLevelII (EL2) is a pair (one for each side) of the modified Cadillac units with electronic level controls and switches.

Matt
--
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Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit

 

[Keith V]

Matt, thanks.

The EL1 valve array is a question, simple answer is to remove the 3way valve and reconfigure into a fill dump pair for each side. But there may be a way that doesn't require pulling them all apart.

El2, with relays, it might be possible to use as is. That would be cool

In all systems the height sensors would be replaced

________________________________
From: Gmclist on behalf of Matt Colie
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 7:22:54 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] plan B. I really don't need my ride height sensors/valves anyway. Just simple.

Keith,

Power Level (PL)is the original with a compressor, manual valves and all air control.
ElectroLevel (EL1) is the kind that has a single compressor (maybe a tank) and lots of valves in a cabinet and switches.
ElectroLevelII (EL2) is a pair (one for each side) of the modified Cadillac units with electronic level controls and switches.

Matt
--
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Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
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[robert mueller]

Keith,

Will the dead band and delay time be programmable, if yes after installation?

I am planning on attending the GMCMI Convention in Elkhart, Indiana in September are you?

If yes I reckon it would be a great idea if you were to make a presentation of your system.

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808


-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Keith V
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 11:51 PM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] plan B. I really don't need my ride height sensors/valves anyway. Just simple.

Matt, thanks.

The EL1 valve array is a question, simple answer is to remove the 3way valve and reconfigure into a fill dump pair for each side.
But there may be a way that doesn't require pulling them all apart.

El2, with relays, it might be possible to use as is. That would be cool

In all systems the height sensors would be replaced

________________________________
From: Gmclist on behalf of Matt Colie
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 7:22:54 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] plan B. I really don't need my ride height sensors/valves anyway. Just simple.

Keith,

Power Level (PL)is the original with a compressor, manual valves and all air control.
ElectroLevel (EL1) is the kind that has a single compressor (maybe a tank) and lots of valves in a cabinet and switches.
ElectroLevelII (EL2) is a pair (one for each side) of the modified Cadillac units with electronic level controls and switches.

Matt
--
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OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
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[Ken H.]

I second that motion. And I'm sure Kim will third it!

Ken H.

​O​

​..​

>
> ​...
>
> I am planning on attending the GMCMI Convention in Elkhart, Indiana in
> September are you?
>
> If yes I reckon it would be a great idea if you were to make a
> presentation of your system.
>

 

[Keith V]

Sorry the filters are not adjustable, I'm not sure how I would even do that with the current front panel.

There is only 5 switches, up, down, travel and camp.

I _might_ be convinced to put in a fast /slow switch....

Indiana is not in the current plan, but is in the realm of possibility.

________________________________
From: Gmclist on behalf of Rob Mueller
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 7:11:27 PM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] plan B. I really don't need my ride height sensors/valves anyway. Just simple.

Keith,

Will the dead band and delay time be programmable, if yes after installation?

I am planning on attending the GMCMI Convention in Elkhart, Indiana in September are you?

If yes I reckon it would be a great idea if you were to make a presentation of your system.

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808

-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Keith V
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 11:51 PM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] plan B. I really don't need my ride height sensors/valves anyway. Just simple.

Matt, thanks.

The EL1 valve array is a question, simple answer is to remove the 3way valve and reconfigure into a fill dump pair for each side.
But there may be a way that doesn't require pulling them all apart.

El2, with relays, it might be possible to use as is. That would be cool

In all systems the height sensors would be replaced

________________________________
From: Gmclist on behalf of Matt Colie
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 7:22:54 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] plan B. I really don't need my ride height sensors/valves anyway. Just simple.

Keith,

Power Level (PL)is the original with a compressor, manual valves and all air control.
ElectroLevel (EL1) is the kind that has a single compressor (maybe a tank) and lots of valves in a cabinet and switches.
ElectroLevelII (EL2) is a pair (one for each side) of the modified Cadillac units with electronic level controls and switches.

Matt
--
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OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
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[Matt Colie]

> There is only 5 switches, up, down, travel and camp.

???
You know that there are three kinds of people. Those that understand binary and those that don't.

Matt
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[Keith V]

Lol Oops, up, down, travel, camp and calibrate !

Ive heard it as: There are 10 kind of people those that understand binary and those that dont, lol

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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:30:17 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] plan B. I really don't need my ride height sensors/valves anyway. Just simple.

> There is only 5 switches, up, down, travel and camp.

???
You know that there are three kinds of people. Those that understand binary and those that don't.

Matt
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[john sharpe]

There's a lot of misconception about Electrolevel II. :? 1) A 180# person walking around inside the coach ( ie. going to the bathroon ) will cause
the suspension to self-level. 2) There is a ~20 sec delay before any correction is made. That feature is built into the electronic sensor. It would
not make sense for the system to react when ever you drive over a dime on the pavement. 3) this same basic system was used on vehicles in the 2016
production year. I haven't checked but they may still being used on the 2017 models.
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Porter, TX
78 Eleganza II, TBI
40 Ford Panel, TPI