brake lines

>
> I haven't yet mastered the art of replying to the Digest, but need to
> ask Arch a question about brake lines.

You did fine!

> I was at NAPA yesterday to buy a short brake line, and asked about
> buying lines in bulk and making my own. They said they'd never heard
> of bulk stock; all they had were pre-made lines in a selection of
> standard lengths. They said I could buy a "double flaring" tool for
> about $50 if I wanted to buy their standard lines and make them
> shorter.

Shop at a different store. You can buy a "double flaring
tool"(basically a flaring tool with a set of double flare inserts) for
around $30. I haven't received it yet, but I ordered a Ridgid
345DL(cat. no. 23337) for $50 because I wanted a *good* one. I'll let
everyone know just how "good" it is after I use it.

The tubing you want is "Bundy" steel tubing and should be readily
available.

Patrick
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Patrick Flowers
Mailto:patri63

The GMC Motorhome Page
http://www.gmcmotorhome.com
 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-gmcmotorhome
>[mailto:owner-gmcmotorhome]On Behalf Of
>Gplymate
>Sent: Thursday, June 11, 1998 10:48 AM
>To: gmcmotorhome
>Subject: Re: GMC: Brake Lines
>
>
>I haven't yet mastered the art of replying to the Digest, but need
>to ask Arch
>a question about brake lines.
>
>I was at NAPA yesterday to buy a short brake line, and asked about buying
>lines in bulk and making my own. They said they'd never heard of
>bulk stock;
>all they had were pre-made lines in a selection of standard lengths. They
>said I could buy a "double flaring" tool for about $50 if I wanted to buy
>their standard lines and make them shorter.
>
>My question for Arch is where did he get the bulk lines and how much skill
>does it take to use the special "double flaring" tool?
>
>PS- The 12" line they sold me, with fittings, was $1.29
>
>Thanks,
>
>Glenn
>
Glenn,
I called a local ( Lansing,Mi ) napa and
they said they could order 1/4" and 3/8"
brake line stock in 25ft rolls. About $60.00
for everthing need for the GMC.
Rob
 
I would be interested in a set for a 26' 1977 Kingsley.

Chuck

- ----------
> From: Marcus McGee
> To: gmcmotorhome
> Subject: Re: GMC: Brake Lines
> Date: Thursday, June 11, 1998 4:11 PM
>
> >(snip) There is a company called
> > Classic Tubes. They make SS brake lines for classic cars. About
> > $180.00 for a standard car. I have since talked to them about doing
> > SS brakelines for the GMC. They said if we could send them a compleat
> > set marked as to how go on they would be glad to do them for us.
> > They said the first set would be no more than $250. The price would
> > probably be less after that they said. How about it Jim--- hopp on it.
>
> Is this the Classic Tubes in upstate NY? If so I could perhaps
> facilitate that. I have two transmodes that are not doing anything at
> the moment and I could remove the lines and bring them to Classic in my
> current coach so that they could see how they fit etc.. I would buy at
> least 3 sets for all three coaches I have. Perhaps if we get two or
> three more orders we can get a good price and have them become a regular
> supplier.
>
> Marcus
>
> PS: All light order have been shipped as of Monday the 8th. Some of you
> should already have them by now and they should all arrive by next
> Tuesday. Enjoy
>
> Marcus
 
>SS brakelines for the GMC. They said if we could send them a compleat
>set marked as to how go on they would be glad to do them for us.
>They said the first set would be no more than $250. The price would
>probably be less after that they said. How about it Jim--- hopp on it.

I'd be interested in a set if it came about.

Heinz
'76 Transmode
 
>(snip) There is a company called
> Classic Tubes. They make SS brake lines for classic cars. About
> $180.00 for a standard car. I have since talked to them about doing
> SS brakelines for the GMC. They said if we could send them a compleat
> set marked as to how go on they would be glad to do them for us.
> They said the first set would be no more than $250. The price would
> probably be less after that they said. How about it Jim--- hopp on it.

Is this the Classic Tubes in upstate NY? If so I could perhaps
facilitate that. I have two transmodes that are not doing anything at
the moment and I could remove the lines and bring them to Classic in my
current coach so that they could see how they fit etc.. I would buy at
least 3 sets for all three coaches I have. Perhaps if we get two or
three more orders we can get a good price and have them become a regular
supplier.

Marcus

PS: All light order have been shipped as of Monday the 8th. Some of you
should already have them by now and they should all arrive by next
Tuesday. Enjoy

Marcus
 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-gmcmotorhome
>[mailto:owner-gmcmotorhome]On Behalf Of Gcbr
>Sent: Thursday, June 11, 1998 4:34 PM
>To: gmcmotorhome
>Subject: Re: GMC: Brake Lines
>
>
>In a message dated 98-06-11 15:44:11 EDT, you write:
>
>
> Glenn,
> I called a local ( Lansing,Mi ) napa and
> they said they could order 1/4" and 3/8"
> brake line stock in 25ft rolls. About $60.00
> for everthing need for the GMC.
> Rob >>
>
>Rob
>
>Dont you mean 3/16 ?
>
>Take Care
>Arch
>
Yes, Arch.
I'm sorry about that. Its been a long day.
Rob
 
I also found the Classic Tube company. 1-800-882-3711, 80 Rotech Drive,
Lancaster NY 14086. they are also on the internet at:
www.classictube.com

they will duplicate any brake, fuel line etc in stainless steel.Hope this helps

>>(snip) There is a company called
>> Classic Tubes. They make SS brake lines for classic cars. About
>> $180.00 for a standard car. I have since talked to them about doing
>> SS brakelines for the GMC. They said if we could send them a compleat
>> set marked as to how go on they would be glad to do them for us.
>> They said the first set would be no more than $250. The price would
>> probably be less after that they said. How about it Jim--- hopp on it.
>
>Is this the Classic Tubes in upstate NY? If so I could perhaps
>facilitate that. I have two transmodes that are not doing anything at
>the moment and I could remove the lines and bring them to Classic in my
>current coach so that they could see how they fit etc.. I would buy at
>least 3 sets for all three coaches I have. Perhaps if we get two or
>three more orders we can get a good price and have them become a regular
>supplier.
>
>Marcus
>
>PS: All light order have been shipped as of Monday the 8th. Some of you
>should already have them by now and they should all arrive by next
>Tuesday. Enjoy
>
>Marcus
>
>
 
Checked my JC Whitney catalog and they are indeed there. About $27 set for

>
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-gmcmotorhome
>>[mailto:owner-gmcmotorhome]On Behalf Of Gcbr
>>Sent: Thursday, June 11, 1998 4:34 PM
>>To: gmcmotorhome
>>Subject: Re: GMC: Brake Lines
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 98-06-11 15:44:11 EDT, you write:
>>
>>
>> Glenn,
>> I called a local ( Lansing,Mi ) napa and
>> they said they could order 1/4" and 3/8"
>> brake line stock in 25ft rolls. About $60.00
>> for everthing need for the GMC.
>> Rob >>
>>
>>Rob
>>
>>Dont you mean 3/16 ?
>>
>>Take Care
>>Arch
>>
>Yes, Arch.
> I'm sorry about that. Its been a long day.
> Rob
>
>
 
I too am replacing brake lines. Just thought I would update where I am. Am
only in rear at this time so don't have whole story but can answer some of
the questions I've seen here.

I found a set of double flare dies for use with a standard flaring tool at
Car Quest. The total cost was about $7.00 for the 3/16 and 1/4 sizes. It's
a two step flaring process but I haven't actually done it yet.

The lines from the rear hubs to the rubber hose measure about 3/16 x 24".
NAPA has 20" and 30" so I bought 30" and will cut them down to size so I
don't have excess weight to vibrate. Their recomendation was to just use
them as is and not worry about the excess.

The rubber 'T' hose going to each wheel is not available so I had to
substitute by purchasing a pair of 1/4" brakeline T's and four hoses to go
from the T's to the wheels. The NAPA part number on the bill for thr T's is
#702 x 4. They cost $2.64 each. The NAPA part number for the hoses is
#36827 and the cost is $22.53 each. The total assembly looks like the
original except it comes out about two inches longer. The 'T' blocks didn't
have the thru hole for mounting so I soldered a piece of copper tubing to it
for a mount. If this happens not to hold it will only cause a rattle. This
took them quite a lot of searching to match the combination so I didn't want
to press my luck by insisting on a T with a thru hole.

The run from the front to the rear is quite a lot longer than available
standard lengths so I purchased a 25' roll of 1/4" from NAPA. (About $17 +
connectors) This should be enough for the front also.

I'll also replace the front hoses and this should give me more confidence in
the system.

I hope what I've learned is of some help to someone.
Those rear hoses were a tough one that completely stumped several parts guys.

Dick
 
I would be interested in a set for a 1977 26' Kingsley.

Chuck Blanford

- ----------
> From: Thomas G. Warner
> To: gmcmotorhome
> Subject: Re: GMC: Brake Lines
> Date: Friday, June 12, 1998 7:39 AM
>
> just received a reply form Classic tube company after my inquiry. They
> already have the patterns for the GMC motorhome and will call today with
> more information and prices. Will keep everyone posted. How many people
> would be interested in a complete set if they are reasonable?
>
> >Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:14:32
> >To: gmcmotorhome
> >From: "Thomas G. Warner"
> >Subject: Re: GMC: Brake Lines
> >
> >I also found the Classic Tube company. 1-800-882-3711, 80 Rotech Drive,
> Lancaster NY 14086. they are also on the internet at:
> >www.classictube.com
> >
> >they will duplicate any brake, fuel line etc in stainless steel.Hope
this helps
> >
> >

> >>>(snip) There is a company called
> >>> Classic Tubes. They make SS brake lines for classic cars. About
> >>> $180.00 for a standard car. I have since talked to them about doing
> >>> SS brakelines for the GMC. They said if we could send them a compleat
> >>> set marked as to how go on they would be glad to do them for us.
> >>> They said the first set would be no more than $250. The price would
> >>> probably be less after that they said. How about it Jim--- hopp on
it.
> >>
> >>Is this the Classic Tubes in upstate NY? If so I could perhaps
> >>facilitate that. I have two transmodes that are not doing anything at
> >>the moment and I could remove the lines and bring them to Classic in my
> >>current coach so that they could see how they fit etc.. I would buy at
> >>least 3 sets for all three coaches I have. Perhaps if we get two or
> >>three more orders we can get a good price and have them become a
regular
> >>supplier.
> >>
> >>Marcus
> >>
> >>PS: All light order have been shipped as of Monday the 8th. Some of
you
> >>should already have them by now and they should all arrive by next
> >>Tuesday. Enjoy
> >>
> >>Marcus
> >>
> >>
> >
 
just received a reply form Classic tube company after my inquiry. They
already have the patterns for the GMC motorhome and will call today with
more information and prices. Will keep everyone posted. How many people
would be interested in a complete set if they are reasonable?

>Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:14:32
>To: gmcmotorhome
>From: "Thomas G. Warner"
>Subject: Re: GMC: Brake Lines
>
>I also found the Classic Tube company. 1-800-882-3711, 80 Rotech Drive,
Lancaster NY 14086. they are also on the internet at:
>www.classictube.com
>
>they will duplicate any brake, fuel line etc in stainless steel.Hope this helps
>
>

>>>(snip) There is a company called
>>> Classic Tubes. They make SS brake lines for classic cars. About
>>> $180.00 for a standard car. I have since talked to them about doing
>>> SS brakelines for the GMC. They said if we could send them a compleat
>>> set marked as to how go on they would be glad to do them for us.
>>> They said the first set would be no more than $250. The price would
>>> probably be less after that they said. How about it Jim--- hopp on it.
>>
>>Is this the Classic Tubes in upstate NY? If so I could perhaps
>>facilitate that. I have two transmodes that are not doing anything at
>>the moment and I could remove the lines and bring them to Classic in my
>>current coach so that they could see how they fit etc.. I would buy at
>>least 3 sets for all three coaches I have. Perhaps if we get two or
>>three more orders we can get a good price and have them become a regular
>>supplier.
>>
>>Marcus
>>
>>PS: All light order have been shipped as of Monday the 8th. Some of you
>>should already have them by now and they should all arrive by next
>>Tuesday. Enjoy
>>
>>Marcus
>>
>>
>
 
just received the information from classic tubes. They have all of the
original OEM specs for the GMC motorhome and have sets in stock from a
previous customer that went out of business. The set consists of all lines
from the master cylinder to the brakes including al fittings other than
flexible hoses. Price for 1 set is $295. Committed to price of $250 for 10
sets at this time. Willing to negotiate if quantity is greater. Now is the
price?

>just received a reply form Classic tube company after my inquiry. They
>already have the patterns for the GMC motorhome and will call today with
>more information and prices. Will keep everyone posted. How many people
>would be interested in a complete set if they are reasonable?
>
>
 
I am defintely interested in a set for my current coach and would be
interested in two more sets for my other transmodes if the price was in
the 250 or less range. Do they have or could they make up the rubber
hoses in the new teflon stainless arrangement? I may go visit them next
week if you think that would be prudent. I think we could come up with
something close to ten sets. I wonder if the customer was CLASCO?
Jim, any input on this?

Marcus

>
> just received the information from classic tubes. They have all of the
> original OEM specs for the GMC motorhome and have sets in stock from a
> previous customer that went out of business. The set consists of all lines
> from the master cylinder to the brakes including al fittings other than
> flexible hoses. Price for 1 set is $295. Committed to price of $250 for 10
> sets at this time. Willing to negotiate if quantity is greater. Now is the
> price?
>

> >just received a reply form Classic tube company after my inquiry. They
> >already have the patterns for the GMC motorhome and will call today with
> >more information and prices. Will keep everyone posted. How many people
> >would be interested in a complete set if they are reasonable?
> >
> >
 
will do trans lines next, anything else?

>In a message dated 98-06-12 10:47:35 EDT, you write:
>
> just received the information from classic tubes. They have all of the
> original OEM specs for the GMC motorhome and have sets in stock from a
> previous customer that went out of business. The set consists of all lines
> from the master cylinder to the brakes including al fittings other than
> flexible hoses. Price for 1 set is $295. Committed to price of $250 for 10
> sets at this time. Willing to negotiate if quantity is greater. Now is the
> price? >>
>
>
>Thomas
>
>Ok now go to work on the Trans cooler lines. I will take a set of them.
>Darn when I talked to them back in Sept they did not have the specs.
>Well good luck to all of you. Your going to get what I wanted. Now this
>is how the internet should work. Patrick thanks again for making all of
>this happen. You have earned yourself a page in the GMC history book.
>
>Take Care
>Arch
>
>
 
Don't forget to include an option for the transmission lines going to a
separate aftermarkert cooler vs. the original routing to the radiator
side tank.

Paul Bartz
> From: Thomas G. Warner [SMTP:warner]
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 1998 1:02 PM
> Subject: Re: GMC: Brake Lines
>
> will do trans lines next, anything else?
>
>

> >In a message dated 98-06-12 10:47:35 EDT, you write:
> >
> > just received the information from classic tubes. They have all of
> the
> > original OEM specs for the GMC motorhome and have sets in stock from
> a
> > previous customer that went out of business. The set consists of
> all lines
> > from the master cylinder to the brakes including al fittings other
> than
> > flexible hoses. Price for 1 set is $295. Committed to price of
> $250 for 10
> > sets at this time. Willing to negotiate if quantity is greater.
> Now is the
> > price? >>
> >
> >
> >Thomas
> >
> >Ok now go to work on the Trans cooler lines. I will take a set of
> them.
> >Darn when I talked to them back in Sept they did not have the specs.
> >Well good luck to all of you. Your going to get what I wanted. Now
> this
> >is how the internet should work. Patrick thanks again for making all
> of
> >this happen. You have earned yourself a page in the GMC history book.
> >
> >Arch
 
Golby also has the T hose.

Paul Bartz

> From: Gcbr [SMTP:Gcbr]
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 1998 11:04 AM
> Subject: Re: GMC: Brake Lines
>
> In a message dated 98-06-12 00:45:52 EDT, you write:
>
> ber 'T' hose going to each wheel is not available so I had to
> substitute by purchasing a pair of 1/4" brake line T's and four hoses
> to go
> from the T's to the wheels. The NAPA part number on the bill for the
> T's is #702 x 4. They cost $2.64 each. The NAPA part number for the
> hoses is #36827 and the cost is $22.53 each. The total assembly looks
> like the original except it comes out about two inches longer. The
> 'T' blocks didn't
>
> Dick
>
> Gatway Motorhome has the "T" hose. I just bought 2 from them.
>
> Take Care
> Arch
 
marcus if you are close visit them to see one of the sets, but don't think
it wise to make a committment at this time until we see how many are
interested. Large order will give us lots of leverage. I will contact other
GMC clubs tonight and stir up the interest, and see if we can get the price
down below $200. I know we can do it maybe even less. Lets stay in contact.
I belong to the GMC heritage Cruisers and most of them are at the air show
in Batavia NY. Will try and contact them.

>I am defintely interested in a set for my current coach and would be
>interested in two more sets for my other transmodes if the price was in
>the 250 or less range. Do they have or could they make up the rubber
>hoses in the new teflon stainless arrangement? I may go visit them next
>week if you think that would be prudent. I think we could come up with
>something close to ten sets. I wonder if the customer was CLASCO?
>Jim, any input on this?
>
>Marcus
>

>>
>> just received the information from classic tubes. They have all of the
>> original OEM specs for the GMC motorhome and have sets in stock from a
>> previous customer that went out of business. The set consists of all lines
>> from the master cylinder to the brakes including al fittings other than
>> flexible hoses. Price for 1 set is $295. Committed to price of $250 for 10
>> sets at this time. Willing to negotiate if quantity is greater. Now is the
>> price?
>>

>> >just received a reply form Classic tube company after my inquiry. They
>> >already have the patterns for the GMC motorhome and will call today with
>> >more information and prices. Will keep everyone posted. How many people
>> >would be interested in a complete set if they are reasonable?
>> >
>> >
>
>