V Belt Sale

Hi, Ken.

Do you have a part number list for what a "standard"
GMCMH would need from this supplier?

D C "Mac" Macdonald
Amateur Radio K2GKK
Since 30 November '53
USAF and FAA, Retired
Member GMCMI & Classics
Oklahoma City, OK
"The Money Pit"
TZE166V101966
'76 ex-Palm Beach
k2gkk + hotmail dot com

________________________________
From: Gmclist on behalf of Ken Henderson via Gmclist
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 13:11
To: GMC Mail List
Cc: Ken Henderson
Subject: [GMCnet] V Belt Sale

If you need to get some spare belts, now's the time -- you probably can't
find better prices nor belts:
https://www.vbeltsupply.com/

Ken H.
 
It's been at least 15 years since I needed a V-belt; I run only
serpentines. Sorry.

Ken H.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 2:18 PM D C _Mac_ Macdonald
wrote:

> Hi, Ken.
>
> Do you have a part number list for what a "standard"
> GMCMH would need from this supplier?
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald
> Amateur Radio K2GKK
> Since 30 November '53
> USAF and FAA, Retired
> Member GMCMI & Classics
> Oklahoma City, OK
> "The Money Pit"
> TZE166V101966
> '76 ex-Palm Beach
> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Gmclist on behalf of Ken
> Henderson via Gmclist
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 3, 2020 13:11
> *To:* GMC Mail List
> *Cc:* Ken Henderson
> *Subject:* [GMCnet] V Belt Sale
>
> If you need to get some spare belts, now's the time -- you probably can't
> find better prices nor belts:
> https://www.vbeltsupply.com/
>
> Ken H.
>
>
 
http://www.bdub.net/Belts.pdf

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 1:18 PM D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist <

> Hi, Ken.
>
> Do you have a part number list for what a "standard"
> GMCMH would need from this supplier?
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald
> Amateur Radio K2GKK
> Since 30 November '53
> USAF and FAA, Retired
> Member GMCMI & Classics
> Oklahoma City, OK
> "The Money Pit"
> TZE166V101966
> '76 ex-Palm Beach
> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Ken
> Henderson via Gmclist
> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 13:11
> To: GMC Mail List
> Cc: Ken Henderson
> Subject: [GMCnet] V Belt Sale
>
> If you need to get some spare belts, now's the time -- you probably can't
> find better prices nor belts:
> https://www.vbeltsupply.com/
>
> Ken H.
>
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Billy,
Your belt diagram shows a belt angle of 40 degrees and the vbeltsupply belt
angles are 36 degrees. Will this be a problem??
JR Wheeler 78 Royale NC/OR

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 2:44 PM Billy Massey via Gmclist <

> http://www.bdub.net/Belts.pdf
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 1:18 PM D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist <

>
> > Hi, Ken.
> >
> > Do you have a part number list for what a "standard"
> > GMCMH would need from this supplier?
> >
> > D C "Mac" Macdonald
> > Amateur Radio K2GKK
> > Since 30 November '53
> > USAF and FAA, Retired
> > Member GMCMI & Classics
> > Oklahoma City, OK
> > "The Money Pit"
> > TZE166V101966
> > '76 ex-Palm Beach
> > k2gkk + hotmail dot com
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Gmclist on behalf of Ken
> > Henderson via Gmclist
> > Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 13:11
> > To: GMC Mail List
> > Cc: Ken Henderson
> > Subject: [GMCnet] V Belt Sale
> >
> > If you need to get some spare belts, now's the time -- you probably can't
> > find better prices nor belts:
> > https://www.vbeltsupply.com/
> >
> > Ken H.
> >
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The website below was blocked by Malware Bytes as having a Trojan.

73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
Since 30 Nov 1953
Oklahoma City, OK
USAF (Retired) 61-81
FAA (Retired) 94-10

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Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 13:43
To: GMCnet
Cc: Billy Massey
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] V Belt Sale

http://www.bdub.net/Belts.pdf

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 1:18 PM D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist <

> Hi, Ken.
>
> Do you have a part number list for what a "standard"
> GMCMH would need from this supplier?
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald
> Amateur Radio K2GKK
> Since 30 November '53
> USAF and FAA, Retired
> Member GMCMI & Classics
> Oklahoma City, OK
> "The Money Pit"
> TZE166V101966
> '76 ex-Palm Beach
> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Ken
> Henderson via Gmclist
> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 13:11
> To: GMC Mail List
> Cc: Ken Henderson
> Subject: [GMCnet] V Belt Sale
>
> If you need to get some spare belts, now's the time -- you probably can't
> find better prices nor belts:
> https://www.vbeltsupply.com/
>
> Ken H.
>
> _______________________________________________
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The site is safe. your virus program is out of date.

-----Original Message-----
The website below was blocked by Malware Bytes as having a Trojan.
 
My Malwarebytes was updated four days ago and is latest edition.
I found that the rejection was even for your basic URL. I have now
manually specifically enabled it, though.

Cheers

D C "Mac" Macdonald
Amateur Radio K2GKK
Since 30 November '53
USAF and FAA, Retired
Member GMCMI & Classics
Oklahoma City, OK
"The Money Pit"
TZE166V101966
'76 ex-Palm Beach
k2gkk + hotmail dot com

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Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 15:43
To: gmclist
Cc: Billy Massey
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] V Belt Sale

The site is safe. your virus program is out of date.

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Mac,

You shouldn't have any problem. Neither my Malwarebytes nor Bitdefender
detected anything wrong with https://www.vbeltsupply.com/

Ken H.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 7:35 PM D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist <

> My Malwarebytes was updated four days ago and is latest edition.
> I found that the rejection was even for your basic URL. I have now
> manually specifically enabled it, though.
>
> Cheers
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald
> Amateur Radio K2GKK
> Since 30 November '53
> USAF and FAA, Retired
> Member GMCMI & Classics
> Oklahoma City, OK
> "The Money Pit"
> TZE166V101966
> '76 ex-Palm Beach
> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Billy Massey
> via Gmclist
> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 15:43
> To: gmclist
> Cc: Billy Massey
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] V Belt Sale
>
> The site is safe. your virus program is out of date.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
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I went to Vbelt supply a few months back to try to figure this all out with GMCMI parts exchange in hand and failed to figure it out. I want non
cogged belts for my GMC as well as for several GM muscle cars. GM used smooth belts and the cogged ones cost points in concours class. Not sure which
series to stick with.
--
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
 
> I went to Vbelt supply a few months back to try to figure this all out with GMCMI parts exchange in hand and failed to figure it out. I want non
> cogged belts for my GMC as well as for several GM muscle cars. GM used smooth belts and the cogged ones cost points in concours class. Not sure
> which series to stick with.

John,

I might think you were kidding, but I guy I know had a Cord (specific type I don't recall) and he did not get best in show because he lost points.
The acorn nut on the oil filter was Chrome and it was supposed to be Nickel.

Matt
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Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
 
GMCs are NOT SHOW VEHICLES. Who cares if they have an industrial V-belt
instead of a genuine GM factory belt with a period correct date. Function
takes precedence over form here.
I have owned show cars, and they have been subjected to severe
scrutiny from Concours judges, and nit pick points taken off for non
standard paint colors on engine accessories and the like. A bone stock GMC
coach ia a truly rare bird after 40+ years of various owners and back woods
mechanics working on keeping them running and reliable enough to safely
transport our families on today's highways. They were built to use.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 5:34 PM Matt Colie via Gmclist
wrote:

> > I went to Vbelt supply a few months back to try to figure this all out
> with GMCMI parts exchange in hand and failed to figure it out. I want non
> > cogged belts for my GMC as well as for several GM muscle cars. GM used
> smooth belts and the cogged ones cost points in concours class. Not sure
> > which series to stick with.
>
> John,
>
> I might think you were kidding, but I guy I know had a Cord (specific type
> I don't recall) and he did not get best in show because he lost points.
> The acorn nut on the oil filter was Chrome and it was supposed to be
> Nickel.
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL,
> GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum
> Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Since I do dog shows, I see a lot of ;nit - picking' for the Judge to decide between two good examples of a breed. The concourse nit - picks are even
worse though. Two come to mind, both Mopars. In one, the winner had the proper for that years green battery caps instead of the orange from other
years which was on the other car. The other had to do with an insopector's mark on the firewall, and the color of crayon used to make it.
If you're going concourse, no notched V-belts and no serpentine. If you are using the coach as you should be, doesn't matter.

--johnny
--
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
 
Jim H you missed my point. I want to get the correct belts for the GMC and those would be non cogged at time of manufacture in Pontiac. THEN I want to
apply that knowledge to other GM muscle by simply changing the length. Hey for a 442 the numbers should be the same.
--
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
 
I guess I didn't see any reference to a 442 Olds show car. I don't have any
contact with the forum if that is where it appeared, then I for sure missed
it.
I have had hot rods and show cars most of my life, and am no stranger
to judging. My 1st wife Mary and I sponsored an annual car show that drew
100 - 150 cars. I was in charge of both judging, hiring competent,
unbiased, judges, promotions, D.J.'s trophies, etc. 100 point cars exist
only as a figment of somebody's imagination, never in actual life.
Anyway, if clogged belts perform better on a GMC, I would sure use
them. Just like 80 mm calipers, disc brakes, reaction arms, wireless air
systems, 1 ton conversions, and the list goes on. Function beats form any
day on these coaches. And sorry if I missed your point.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Sat, Sep 5, 2020, 4:50 PM John R. Lebetski via Gmclist <

> Jim H you missed my point. I want to get the correct belts for the GMC and
> those would be non cogged at time of manufacture in Pontiac. THEN I want to
> apply that knowledge to other GM muscle by simply changing the length.
> Hey for a 442 the numbers should be the same.
> --
> John Lebetski
> Woodstock, IL
> 77 Eleganza II
>
>
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No 442 appeared in original comment. Just a logical example. The head judge at the Buick Club of America as well as the Buick GS club takes points
off for cogged belts. Are they better, I never said one way or the other. To me there is less rubber meat and less friction surface right where it
counts the most.
--
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
 
Less slightly perhaps but better adhesion from better rounding on small pulleys. Which is worth more? Matt Colie, you ever evaluate types of V-belt
in he lab/test cell?

--johnny
--
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
 
> Less slightly perhaps but better adhesion from better rounding on small pulleys. Which is worth more? Matt Colie, you ever evaluate types of
> V-belt in he lab/test cell?
>
> --johnny

No Johnny,

We never did it in any lab where I worked, but I can tell you from trying to drive alternators over 100 amps that standard belts burn up just like
cogged belts. This was after and owner tried everything (and I do mean every single thing) to try to stop his new 120Amp alternator from tearing up
belts as soon as they got the anchor up. (His final fix was the current limiting regulator that I $upplied him.)

What should be remembered is F=µN Friction equals µ(coefficient of Friction)times Normal force. Note that there is no area in that equation.

I seen cogged belts do better on small radius sheaves, but it was never a quantified study.

Matt
--
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
 
I always thought it was to save rubber pennies on thousands of pieces. I like them just about as much as the universal corrugated flex radiator
hoses. But better than the fake braided AN type.
--
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
 
> I always thought it was to save rubber pennies on thousands of pieces. I like them just about as much as the universal corrugated flex radiator
> hoses. But better than the fake braided AN type.

I always like the silver overbraid and fame line nut that hide the hose clamp.

Matt

--
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
 
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