Upper cylider lubricant

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Does any one have any info or experience with upper cylinder lubricant?
I seem to remember small quantities should be added on fill ups?
Will it help? What brand(s) will be the best? Any info is appreciated.

Jerry & Meri Wallace, Sandy, OR.
 
Hi Jerry-

Theres lots of brands, they're all a little different. When I was a kid,
the gunsmith I apprenticed to used to make his own 'top oil'. His formula
was a big can of GM Engine Oil Supplement added to about a gallon of diesel
fuel, and shaken well in a big plastic jug until mixed thouroughly. This
produced a gallon of top oil for very low cost, and probably was as good as
most proprietary blends. He would add about 4 ounces to every ten gallons
gasoline. Watch out that you use a jug for this mixing operation that does
not dissolve from exposure to diesel fuel, might want to use a little red
gas can etc instead.

It was his view that top oil was a good aid to prevent sticking piston
rings and keep valve guides in good shape, as well as minimizing seat wear.
I am not convinced it makes any difference, but most of my engines leak
enough oil down the valve guides to pretty adequately lubricate everything
anyhow. ;-)

I would see little harm in using his formula, and its a cheap way to avail
yourself of whatever advantages may accrue from top oil. Using a very small
amount of top oil should not effect octane enough to be a problem, but if
you overdo it, you may get smoking. GM EOS does have some nice moly additives.

Hope this is helpful!

Brent Covey
Vancouver BC

> Does any one have any info or experience with upper cylinder lubricant?
> I seem to remember small quantities should be added on fill ups?
> Will it help? What brand(s) will be the best? Any info is appreciated.
 
Jerry

Being an ex-Wynn's salesman, I use Wynn's Supreme as an oil additive with each oil
change. If I come across sticky valves, Wynn's Tune Up will free up those in
about12 min at fast idle. If a coach has been setting for a long time, pull the
plugs, squirt a little Supreme into each cylindar, let set for awaile (this gives
lub to otherwise dry walls and rings) and start. If you've been using Supreme all
along, you don't need to do the plug thing.

Wayne Newland F9300 75 Palm Beach Columbia, Md

> Hi Jerry-
>
> Theres lots of brands, they're all a little different. When I was a kid,
> the gunsmith I apprenticed to used to make his own 'top oil'. His formula
> was a big can of GM Engine Oil Supplement added to about a gallon of diesel
> fuel, and shaken well in a big plastic jug until mixed thouroughly. This
> produced a gallon of top oil for very low cost, and probably was as good as
> most proprietary blends. He would add about 4 ounces to every ten gallons
> gasoline. Watch out that you use a jug for this mixing operation that does
> not dissolve from exposure to diesel fuel, might want to use a little red
> gas can etc instead.
>
> It was his view that top oil was a good aid to prevent sticking piston
> rings and keep valve guides in good shape, as well as minimizing seat wear.
> I am not convinced it makes any difference, but most of my engines leak
> enough oil down the valve guides to pretty adequately lubricate everything
> anyhow. ;-)
>
> I would see little harm in using his formula, and its a cheap way to avail
> yourself of whatever advantages may accrue from top oil. Using a very small
> amount of top oil should not effect octane enough to be a problem, but if
> you overdo it, you may get smoking. GM EOS does have some nice moly additives.
>
> Hope this is helpful!
>
> Brent Covey
> Vancouver BC
>

> > Does any one have any info or experience with upper cylinder lubricant?
> > I seem to remember small quantities should be added on fill ups?
> > Will it help? What brand(s) will be the best? Any info is appreciated.
 
Thanks Brent for the info.

> Hi Jerry-
>
> Theres lots of brands, they're all a little different. When I was a kid,
> the gunsmith I apprenticed to used to make his own 'top oil'. His formula
> was a big can of GM Engine Oil Supplement added to about a gallon of diesel
> fuel, and shaken well in a big plastic jug until mixed thouroughly. This
> produced a gallon of top oil for very low cost, and probably was as good as
> most proprietary blends. He would add about 4 ounces to every ten gallons
> gasoline. Watch out that you use a jug for this mixing operation that does
> not dissolve from exposure to diesel fuel, might want to use a little red
> gas can etc instead.
>
> It was his view that top oil was a good aid to prevent sticking piston
> rings and keep valve guides in good shape, as well as minimizing seat wear.
> I am not convinced it makes any difference, but most of my engines leak
> enough oil down the valve guides to pretty adequately lubricate everything
> anyhow. ;-)
>
> I would see little harm in using his formula, and its a cheap way to avail
> yourself of whatever advantages may accrue from top oil. Using a very small
> amount of top oil should not effect octane enough to be a problem, but if
> you overdo it, you may get smoking. GM EOS does have some nice moly additives.
>
> Hope this is helpful!
>
> Brent Covey
> Vancouver BC
>

> > Does any one have any info or experience with upper cylinder lubricant?
> > I seem to remember small quantities should be added on fill ups?
> > Will it help? What brand(s) will be the best? Any info is appreciated.
 
Thanks Wayne,
You've previously mentioned some good remarks on Wynnn's and I've
always heard good comments on Wynn's.

> Jerry
>
> Being an ex-Wynn's salesman, I use Wynn's Supreme as an oil additive with each oil
> change. If I come across sticky valves, Wynn's Tune Up will free up those in
> about12 min at fast idle. If a coach has been setting for a long time, pull the
> plugs, squirt a little Supreme into each cylindar, let set for awaile (this gives
> lub to otherwise dry walls and rings) and start. If you've been using Supreme all
> along, you don't need to do the plug thing.
>
> Wayne Newland F9300 75 Palm Beach Columbia, Md
>

>
> > Hi Jerry-
> >
> > Theres lots of brands, they're all a little different. When I was a kid,
> > the gunsmith I apprenticed to used to make his own 'top oil'. His formula
> > was a big can of GM Engine Oil Supplement added to about a gallon of diesel
> > fuel, and shaken well in a big plastic jug until mixed thouroughly. This
> > produced a gallon of top oil for very low cost, and probably was as good as
> > most proprietary blends. He would add about 4 ounces to every ten gallons
> > gasoline. Watch out that you use a jug for this mixing operation that does
> > not dissolve from exposure to diesel fuel, might want to use a little red
> > gas can etc instead.
> >
> > It was his view that top oil was a good aid to prevent sticking piston
> > rings and keep valve guides in good shape, as well as minimizing seat wear.
> > I am not convinced it makes any difference, but most of my engines leak
> > enough oil down the valve guides to pretty adequately lubricate everything
> > anyhow. ;-)
> >
> > I would see little harm in using his formula, and its a cheap way to avail
> > yourself of whatever advantages may accrue from top oil. Using a very small
> > amount of top oil should not effect octane enough to be a problem, but if
> > you overdo it, you may get smoking. GM EOS does have some nice moly additives.
> >
> > Hope this is helpful!
> >
> > Brent Covey
> > Vancouver BC
> >

> > > Does any one have any info or experience with upper cylinder lubricant?
> > > I seem to remember small quantities should be added on fill ups?
> > > Will it help? What brand(s) will be the best? Any info is appreciated.
 
can someone please tell me where I can buy wynn's
products -- seems that they are no longer sold at a
retail level. I have tried all the automotive type
stores here in the Daytona area.

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Pete

You probably have a local distributor, but try 1-800-645-8101(Wynn's
Hq). They can direct you to the Local Dist. If there isn't a local
dist., contact me back. The local guy here in Maryland will sell me
what ever I want - even though I haven't worked there for more than 11
years. I'll be in Daytona the last weekend of April, setting up a show,
but I don't have the name of the hotel handy.

Wayne Newland ex-Wynn's F9300 75 Palm Beach Columbia, Md

> can someone please tell me where I can buy wynn's
> products -- seems that they are no longer sold at a
> retail level. I have tried all the automotive type
> stores here in the Daytona area.
>
> =====
> Pete Papas-->http://members.tripod.com/~mehawk_ii/index.html
> . ___________ (MY TOYS) (904)672-0571
> ./_][__][] []| 1973 GMC M/H 1976 Bi-Centennial Harley M/C
> .*O-------OO-* Painted Desert 1979 280ZX Datsun (1 of 1000)
> Photos--> http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=192176
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> http://im.yahoo.com
 
Try this: http://www.wynnoil.com/INDEX2.HTML

- --
J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLakers
77 Eleganza II
Michigan

>
> Pete
>
> You probably have a local distributor, but try 1-800-645-8101(Wynn's
> Hq). They can direct you to the Local Dist. If there isn't a local
> dist., contact me back. The local guy here in Maryland will sell me
> what ever I want - even though I haven't worked there for more than 11
> years. I'll be in Daytona the last weekend of April, setting up a show,
> but I don't have the name of the hotel handy.
>
> Wayne Newland ex-Wynn's F9300 75 Palm Beach Columbia, Md
>

>
> > can someone please tell me where I can buy wynn's
> > products -- seems that they are no longer sold at a
> > retail level. I have tried all the automotive type
> > stores here in the Daytona area.
> >
> > =====
> > Pete Papas-->http://members.tripod.com/~mehawk_ii/index.html
> > . ___________ (MY TOYS) (904)672-0571
> > ./_][__][] []| 1973 GMC M/H 1976 Bi-Centennial Harley M/C
> > .*O-------OO-* Painted Desert 1979 280ZX Datsun (1 of 1000)
> > Photos--> http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=192176
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> > http://im.yahoo.com
 
Jerry

Please excuse an answer to a question from over a month ago, but I thought
someone else would answer. I think that upper cylinder lub is a thing of the
past. If you install a bottle of Wynn's Supreme with each oil change, that
will do more than any upper cyl lub ever did. (Wynn"s, 1-800-645-8101 for your
local Dist.)

Wayne Newland ex-Wynn's rep

> Does any one have any info or experience with upper cylinder lubricant?
> I seem to remember small quantities should be added on fill ups?
> Will it help? What brand(s) will be the best? Any info is appreciated.
>
> Jerry & Meri Wallace, Sandy, OR.
 
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