Unidentified Part

Do the turn signals still cancel automatically?
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Terry Kelpien

ASE Master Technician

73 Glacier 260

Smithfield, Va.
 
I found 3 #53s in the diagram. It is not a bearing, or a transmission detention, and it is not the spring in the tilt ball.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47389-most-all-the-motorhomes-are-wore-here.html
When you update a steering column with dimmer on the turn signal lever you buy a new dimmer switch that bolts to the ignition switch and it comes with
a lock tab in place to put it in correct adjustment when installed and must be removed and thrown away after installation in order to work.
http://www.autozone.com/electrical-and-lighting/dimmer-switch/duralast-dimmer-switch-uds485/190427_20995_1985
This is a guess as the bend on tips is not familiar.

> > Can anyone tell me what this is and where it goes? Found it on the floor of a 1976 Palm Beach after rebuilding the steering column.
>
> Is it part #53 here, columns should be similar:
> https://www.elcaminostore.com/diagram/view/index/id/31

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C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
 
Didn't realize there were that many 53's in diagram. The tilt ball spring is the one I meant. With your experience, if you don't know where it goes
Chuck, it probably isn't from column.
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Mike K.
'75 PB
Southeast Michigan
 
Thank you for the kind comment sir. However my memory is not to be relied on. I was trying to help a Black list caller last week and totally left
out a major step. I hope it worked out. I tried to call back the next morning but he probably blocked my # and was sticking pins in a voodoo doll
with my name on it.

> Didn't realize there were that many 53's in diagram. The tilt ball spring is the one I meant. With your experience, if you don't know where it
> goes Chuck, it probably isn't from column.

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C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
 
Now that I see the exploded view, looks like #53 to me...a spring the keeps the U-joint parts seated in the yokes. Thought it was a spring clip that
goes on back of steering wheel to engage canceling cam, but that must have been another brand of vehicle I was remembering.
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Terry Kelpien

ASE Master Technician

73 Glacier 260

Smithfield, Va.
 
When we restart the engine and move it, I will check to see if the turn signals still (if they ever did) self cancel.
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Greg Crawford
Knoxville, TN
 
Greg,
How big is that clip? Its not one of clips to hold down the lid on the master cylinder is it?

Russell
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Russell Keith,
1978 E2 "Harry" 403 (still carbureted), Danny Dunn Tranny, Thorley, Stock Brakes w/Remote Vacuum Brake Booster, Quad Bags, Dakota Digital Dash, 6.5 kW
Onan, Dunedin, Florida
 
Greg,
Could it be the lower bearing clip?

It is part number 32 on the diagram of the standard steering column.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/steering-column/p67109-standard-steering-column-parts.html

Or part number 53 on the diagram of the tilt steering column.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/steering-column/p67112-tilt-steering-column-parts.html

Good luck.
Russell
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Russell Keith,
1978 E2 "Harry" 403 (still carbureted), Danny Dunn Tranny, Thorley, Stock Brakes w/Remote Vacuum Brake Booster, Quad Bags, Dakota Digital Dash, 6.5 kW
Onan, Dunedin, Florida
 
Greg,
I have one more guess.

Could it be the shaft retaining ring for the tilt column? See part number 43 in this diagram.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/steering-column/p67112-tilt-steering-column-parts.html

Please let us know what you discover.

Russell
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Russell Keith,
1978 E2 "Harry" 403 (still carbureted), Danny Dunn Tranny, Thorley, Stock Brakes w/Remote Vacuum Brake Booster, Quad Bags, Dakota Digital Dash, 6.5 kW
Onan, Dunedin, Florida
 
Thanks for all the replies!

It's not 32.

It's about 3/4" or so wide.

Which little circle has 43 in it?

The diagram is a little fuzzy, and I can't make out the two numbers next to 45 on the extreme left parts grouping.
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Greg Crawford
Knoxville, TN
 
Oops!

Looking at the wrong diagram.

YES, YES, it might be 43!

My friend will be ecstatic that we have to disassemble the steering column again....

Thank you!
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Greg Crawford
Knoxville, TN
 
Yes, it is shaped differently.

It's possible this part did not come out of the steering column at all. We just found it on the carpet when we were cleaning up the tools.

I don't think it goes there, but the PRND2L indicator is not working either. It seems like there should be a guide for the indicator cable that is
missing.
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Greg Crawford
Knoxville, TN
 
Sir, there is a post on the back of the instrument cluster that the cable goes over. Just lays across it.

> Yes, it is shaped differently.
>
> It's possible this part did not come out of the steering column at all. We just found it on the carpet when we were cleaning up the tools.
>
> I don't think it goes there, but the PRND2L indicator is not working either. It seems like there should be a guide for the indicator cable that is
> missing.

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C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
 
In case you have not already learned this, repairing a '70 something GM
tilt steering column in not a job for the faint of heart. They a a
terrible collection of plastic, pot metal and hundreds of pieces. Having a
totally cleaned work bench with the entire upper column removed from the
vehicle laid out on clean toweling with excellent lighting is a huge help.
Hunched up over the fragile plastic dash is almost assured method of
losing pieces. I hate working on them. There are several GMCers out there
that have a major amount of experience with them. My learning curve stopped
at the turn signal cancellation cam. Below that, I don't like to mess with
them.
My advice? Get an expert to work on yours and pay attention to what
they do. This is not the last time that you are going to have to tweedle
around in there.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 4:52 PM Charles Boyd via Gmclist <

> Sir, there is a post on the back of the instrument cluster that the cable
> goes over. Just lays across it.
>
>
>
>
>

> > Yes, it is shaped differently.
> >
> > It's possible this part did not come out of the steering column at all.
> We just found it on the carpet when we were cleaning up the tools.
> >
> > I don't think it goes there, but the PRND2L indicator is not working
> either. It seems like there should be a guide for the indicator cable that
> is
> > missing.
>
>
> --
> C. Boyd
> 76 Crestmont
> East Tennessee
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I suppose anything is possible at this point!

Thanks, Chuck, for the information about the cable. When we make our next visit to the coach we will look at that.

It hasn't been moved in a year or so, and it's sitting in a field. A very soft, muddy, field with all this rain.

We did get it running, and it moved a bit in forward and reverse. There was a spare airbag under the settee, so we installed that to replace the blown
bag on the driver's side.

Now that we have the steering column back together, we hope to pull it out onto a concrete driveway for further inspection whenever it dries out

a bit. It's too much of a project for me, but my friend has high hopes for it.
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Greg Crawford
Knoxville, TN