TOADs

john wright

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The automatic hubs have a tendency to lock if there is any backwards
motion in the toad. Doesn't take much, just roll backwards at a stop
sign or light and they lock. You can replace the auto hubs with manual
hubs for under a $100 dollars, JC Whitney has them for $87 for a set of
2 (PN 73EL7577B) Made by Superwinch. Both the 5 speed and automatic
tranny can be towed.

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J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLakers
77 Eleganza II
Michigan

>
> Good Morning and Happy 4th to all.
>
> Looking at Trackers in the 94-95 year range to use as a TOAD. I recall some
> earlier posts that said that 5 spd, 4 wheel drive, and manual hubs could be
> towed wheels down. My question can the automatic hubs be towed wheels down.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chuck D
> Stillwater Mn
 
>GMCrs.......
>
>After reading about Toads.....I have the following question(s).....
>
>I have a 87 Honda Civic DX 5 speed standard transmission 2 door.
>It would be a perfect toad except........
>
>In the owners manual it says......not to tow it over 35 miles and
>keep the speed below about 55. No other explanation.
>
>I know you shouldn't tow a automatic transmission but what about
>a standard like mine????
>
>I have ask my local Honda dealer about it and he said I shouldn't
>tow it but couldn't tell me why! It doesn't give me a lot of confidence
>in them.
>
>Anybody know for sure about towing a standard Honda?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Les Watson
>Orem, Utah
>77 Palm Beach.

Just to confuse the issue, my neighbor pulled his '89 Accord automatic
behind his SOB with 4 wheels down for more than 30,000 miles with no
ploblem. Just lucky?

Dave (advisor/navigator) & Dege (ALL else), '76 Royale, Santa Barbara, CA
 
GMCrs.......

After reading about Toads.....I have the following question(s).....

I have a 87 Honda Civic DX 5 speed standard transmission 2 door.
It would be a perfect toad except........

In the owners manual it says......not to tow it over 35 miles and
keep the speed below about 55. No other explanation.

I know you shouldn't tow a automatic transmission but what about
a standard like mine????

I have ask my local Honda dealer about it and he said I shouldn't
tow it but couldn't tell me why! It doesn't give me a lot of confidence
in them.

Anybody know for sure about towing a standard Honda?

Thanks in advance

Les Watson
Orem, Utah
77 Palm Beach.
 
The statement I made about most being towable is subject to year of vehicle.
I believe, after 90 or 91 this is the case. IMO, if the owners manual says
not to it probably is a good idea to follow that advice. I know newer
accords and civics can be towed no problem. Darren

> GMCrs.......
>
> After reading about Toads.....I have the following question(s).....
>
> I have a 87 Honda Civic DX 5 speed standard transmission 2 door.
> It would be a perfect toad except........
>
> In the owners manual it says......not to tow it over 35 miles and
> keep the speed below about 55. No other explanation.
>
> I know you shouldn't tow a automatic transmission but what about
> a standard like mine????
>
> I have ask my local Honda dealer about it and he said I shouldn't
> tow it but couldn't tell me why! It doesn't give me a lot of confidence
> in them.
>
> Anybody know for sure about towing a standard Honda?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Les Watson
> Orem, Utah
> 77 Palm Beach.

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Darren Paget
76 Experimental
Another Fab Day
http://www.TZEplus.com
 
According to Honda's Customer Support Center ( if that's not the name it
was similar ), a '90 Accord LX automatic can be towed by simply observing
one simple rule:

Start the engine
Place it in Drive
Place it in Neutral
Turn off the ignition
Let 'er rip...

IOW, do NOT place it in Reverse then Neutral!

Steve in N. Texas

> >GMCrs.......
> >
> >After reading about Toads.....I have the following question(s).....
> >
> >I have a 87 Honda Civic DX 5 speed standard transmission 2 door.
> >It would be a perfect toad except........
> >
> >In the owners manual it says......not to tow it over 35 miles and
> >keep the speed below about 55. No other explanation.
> >
> >I know you shouldn't tow a automatic transmission but what about
> >a standard like mine????
> >
> >I have ask my local Honda dealer about it and he said I shouldn't
> >tow it but couldn't tell me why! It doesn't give me a lot of confidence
> >in them.
> >
> >Anybody know for sure about towing a standard Honda?
> >
> >Thanks in advance
> >
> >Les Watson
> >Orem, Utah
> >77 Palm Beach.
>
>Just to confuse the issue, my neighbor pulled his '89 Accord automatic
>behind his SOB with 4 wheels down for more than 30,000 miles with no
>ploblem. Just lucky?
>
>
>Dave (advisor/navigator) & Dege (ALL else), '76 Royale, Santa Barbara, CA
 
On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 20:43:42 -0600 Les Watson
writes:
> GMCrs.......
>
> After reading about Toads.....I have the following question(s).....
>
> I have a 87 Honda Civic DX 5 speed standard transmission 2 door.
> It would be a perfect toad except........
>
> In the owners manual it says......not to tow it over 35 miles and
> keep the speed below about 55. No other explanation.
>
> I know you shouldn't tow a automatic transmission but what about
> a standard like mine????
>
> I have ask my local Honda dealer about it and he said I shouldn't
> tow it but couldn't tell me why! It doesn't give me a lot of
> confidence
> in them.
>
> Anybody know for sure about towing a standard Honda?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Les Watson
> Orem, Utah
> 77 Palm Beach.
>
I don't know about the DX5 but I have many friends who tow stick shift
Hondas at highway speeds and have for years without grief. The problem
is, Honda hasn't performed any testing and for liability reasons takes
the easy (CYA) approach.

In my opinion........

David Lee Greenberg
The GMC Motorhome Registry
Dedicated To The Preservation of the Classic GMC Motorhome
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http://www.Buskirk-RushRV/GMC-Registry/online-registry.htm
 
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jhoxsey
It pulls like a dream and all you have to do is kick it into neutral and

unlock the steering column.
Only drawback if any is no A/C in the bug. May add that some day.
Jerry

Jerry,
My first thought was a VW. In fact I looked for a while to find one in
good shape and gave up. Most have been through the mill or had the body
modified so they look even uglier (my opinion) than when they came from
the factory. I settled on an 1,850 lb Metro for a couple of reasons.
First, I was spending $240 -$260 a month for gas in my truck. Secondly,
I was wearing out my truck commuting & not really using it for a truck.
I got the Metro for $50 over invoice, typical for this area. The
payments are $160/month and I'm putting in 32 gallons of gas/month to
drive it. The car is virtually free at this point. It gets 43 mpg, has
AC, no guts and I tinted the windows so no one knows it's me driving
it. BTW, I can't even tell if I'm towing it or not it's so light. No
toad brakes required and it was a snap to make towing adapters for the
low-buck Roadmaster tow bar. Also, GM says there are no towing
restrictions on it.
Al, I did take your advice and hook up the Metro lights using diodes to
prevent feedback.
Steve
 
>In a message dated 07/15/2000 7:07:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

>
> Date: 07/15/2000 7:07:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time
> From: botiemad (Steven D. Ferguson)
> Sender: owner-gmcmotorhome
> Reply-to: gmcmotorhome
> To: gmcmotorhome (gmcmotorhome)
>
> Steve, thanks for the info on the Metro. Most of the VW's around here are
>rusty. When I lived in Phoenix there were a lot of nice VW's there. I think I
>will look in the Southwest for one.
>Jerry Lader Cad. Powered Edgemonte(CADDYSHACK) hot today in Memphis
>

My 79 year old mother has one in her garage in Michigan which she
bought new. Canary yellow. It is in immaculate shape. She starts
it up once or twice a year. I doubt that it has 40,000 miles on it.
I've tried to get her to sell it to me but she won't part with it.
She drives a Ford and just never takes the VW out. In fact, it
hasn't been licensed for years.

I suppose some day my sister and I will argue over who gets it.

There must be a few more around like this one but I haven't found one yet!

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM
 
Emery wrote: My 79 year old mother has one in her garage in Michigan
which she
bought new.

Those are treasures! I was very fortunate to find a 1970 Chevelle like
that. The lady who owned it had passed away and her son didn't want
anything to do with the car. When she first came to this country from
Russia in 1970 she was 59 years old and it was her first (and last )
automobile. I bought it at the 59,000 mile mark. It had been sitting
in a garage for 12 years under a cover. That was 2 years ago and I
still have it.
There are stories like this all over and I bet some of the netters
could kick in a few.
Steve