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So I've seen quite a few installs where the furnace is mounted on an angle (to match the wall angle), and I've also read the manual that says "DO NOT
MODIFY THE INTAKE OR EXHAUST PIPES." That being said, I am tempted to try one of three things:

1. Cut the stock pipe on an angle and weld it
2. Cut and install a flexible section (maybe not airtight?)
3. Purchase the optional extension kit and have it mandrel bent?

All three options would require a high temp flexible hose connection for the intake.

Any thoughts on this?

Shaun
 
Shaun:

Here’s a presentation on the ATWOOD install.

http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Swartzendruber_Atwood_Furnace_Install.pdf http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Swartzendruber_Atwood_Furnace_Install.pdf

It may give you some ideas.

Dolph

DE AD0LF

Wheeling, West Virginia

1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010

“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"

>
> So I've seen quite a few installs where the furnace is mounted on an angle (to match the wall angle), and I've also read the manual that says "DO NOT
> MODIFY THE INTAKE OR EXHAUST PIPES." That being said, I am tempted to try one of three things:
>
> 1. Cut the stock pipe on an angle and weld it
> 2. Cut and install a flexible section (maybe not airtight?)
> 3. Purchase the optional extension kit and have it mandrel bent?
>
> All three options would require a high temp flexible hose connection for the intake.
>
> Any thoughts on this?
>
> Shaun
>
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Shaun,

I do not know if I am arriving in the middle of this thread but why do you
not just build an angled platform for the furnace?

Sully
77 eleganza 2
Seattle

> So I've seen quite a few installs where the furnace is mounted on an angle
> (to match the wall angle), and I've also read the manual that says "DO NOT
> MODIFY THE INTAKE OR EXHAUST PIPES." That being said, I am tempted to try
> one of three things:
>
> 1. Cut the stock pipe on an angle and weld it
> 2. Cut and install a flexible section (maybe not airtight?)
> 3. Purchase the optional extension kit and have it mandrel bent?
>
> All three options would require a high temp flexible hose connection for
> the intake.
>
> Any thoughts on this?
>
> Shaun
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
 
From what I've seen, the angled mount requires more fabrication and modification to the existing area (i.e. cutting a notch beside the couch). Also,
by mounting flush with the floor, I could add a small shelf above the much shallower unit.
 
> Shaun:
>
> Here's a presentation on the ATWOOD install.
>
> http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Swartzendruber_Atwood_Furnace_Install.pdf
>
> It may give you some ideas.
>
>
> Dolph
>
> DE AD0LF
>
> Wheeling, West Virginia
>
> 1977 26' ex-PalmBeach
> 1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
>
> "The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>
>
>
>
>

> >
> > So I've seen quite a few installs where the furnace is mounted on an angle (to match the wall angle), and I've also read the manual that says
> > "DO NOT
> > MODIFY THE INTAKE OR EXHAUST PIPES." That being said, I am tempted to try one of three things:
> >
> > 1. Cut the stock pipe on an angle and weld it
> > 2. Cut and install a flexible section (maybe not airtight?)
> > 3. Purchase the optional extension kit and have it mandrel bent?
> >
> > All three options would require a high temp flexible hose connection for the intake.
> >
> > Any thoughts on this?
> >
> > Shaun
> >
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This is my idea, but with a different furnace. The suburban only requires two small holes for pipes which I think could be cut on an angle or bent.
 
Shaun,
On the GMC Photo site there are several albums on furnace installs, just do a search on furnace or suburban.

J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
Newsletter Editor/Publisher
Tech Editor
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
75 Avion Under Reconstruction
Michigan

>

>> Shaun:
>>
>> Here's a presentation on the ATWOOD install.
>>
>> http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Swartzendruber_Atwood_Furnace_Install.pdf
>>
>> It may give you some ideas.
>>
>>
>> Dolph
>>
>> DE AD0LF
>>
>> Wheeling, West Virginia
>>
>> 1977 26' ex-PalmBeach
>> 1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
>>
>> "The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

>>>
>>> So I've seen quite a few installs where the furnace is mounted on an angle (to match the wall angle), and I've also read the manual that says
>>> "DO NOT
>>> MODIFY THE INTAKE OR EXHAUST PIPES." That being said, I am tempted to try one of three things:
>>>
>>> 1. Cut the stock pipe on an angle and weld it
>>> 2. Cut and install a flexible section (maybe not airtight?)
>>> 3. Purchase the optional extension kit and have it mandrel bent?
>>>
>>> All three options would require a high temp flexible hose connection for the intake.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on this?
>>>
>>> Shaun
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
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>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> This is my idea, but with a different furnace. The suburban only requires two small holes for pipes which I think could be cut on an angle or bent.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Shaun,
> On the GMC Photo site there are several albums on furnace installs, just do a search on furnace or suburban.
>
> J.R. Wright
> GMC GreatLaker
> Newsletter Editor/Publisher
> Tech Editor
> 78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
> 75 Avion Under Reconstruction
> Michigan
>

> >

> >> Shaun:
> >>
> >> Here's a presentation on the ATWOOD install.
> >>
> >> http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Swartzendruber_Atwood_Furnace_Install.pdf
> >>
> >> It may give you some ideas.
> >>
> >>
> >> Dolph
> >>
> >> DE AD0LF
> >>
> >> Wheeling, West Virginia
> >>
> >> 1977 26' ex-PalmBeach
> >> 1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
> >>
> >> "The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

> >>>
> >>> So I've seen quite a few installs where the furnace is mounted on an angle (to match the wall angle), and I've also read the manual that
> says
> >>> "DO NOT
> >>> MODIFY THE INTAKE OR EXHAUST PIPES." That being said, I am tempted to try one of three things:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Cut the stock pipe on an angle and weld it
> >>> 2. Cut and install a flexible section (maybe not airtight?)
> >>> 3. Purchase the optional extension kit and have it mandrel bent?
> >>>
> >>> All three options would require a high temp flexible hose connection for the intake.
> >>>
> >>> Any thoughts on this?
> >>>
> >>> Shaun
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> GMCnet mailing list
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> >>
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> >
> >
> > This is my idea, but with a different furnace. The suburban only requires two small holes for pipes which I think could be cut on an angle or
> > bent.
> >
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Done this. Everything I can find shows an angled mounting bracket.
 
Shaun,
When I changed out the Solair with a Suburban NT 30, I ordered (from
Suburban)the external vent/exhaust tube for a Winnebago Elante. It is
manufactured with approximately the same angle as the side of our coaches.
Using that vent, the furnace can sit flat.
Terry

> > Shaun,
> > On the GMC Photo site there are several albums on furnace installs, just
> do a search on furnace or suburban.
> >
> > J.R. Wright
> > GMC GreatLaker
> > Newsletter Editor/Publisher
> > Tech Editor
> > 78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
> > 75 Avion Under Reconstruction
> > Michigan
> >

> > >

> > >> Shaun:
> > >>
> > >> Here's a presentation on the ATWOOD install.
> > >>
> > >> http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Swartzendruber_
> Atwood_Furnace_Install.pdf
> > >>
> > >> It may give you some ideas.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Dolph
> > >>
> > >> DE AD0LF
> > >>
> > >> Wheeling, West Virginia
> > >>
> > >> 1977 26' ex-PalmBeach
> > >> 1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission,
> EV-6010
> > >>
> > >> "The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>

> > >>>
> > >>> So I've seen quite a few installs where the furnace is mounted on
> an angle (to match the wall angle), and I've also read the manual that
> > says
> > >>> "DO NOT
> > >>> MODIFY THE INTAKE OR EXHAUST PIPES." That being said, I am tempted
> to try one of three things:
> > >>>
> > >>> 1. Cut the stock pipe on an angle and weld it
> > >>> 2. Cut and install a flexible section (maybe not airtight?)
> > >>> 3. Purchase the optional extension kit and have it mandrel bent?
> > >>>
> > >>> All three options would require a high temp flexible hose
> connection for the intake.
> > >>>
> > >>> Any thoughts on this?
> > >>>
> > >>> Shaun
> > >>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> GMCnet mailing list
> > >>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> > >>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
> > >>
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> > >
> > >
> > > This is my idea, but with a different furnace. The suburban only
> requires two small holes for pipes which I think could be cut on an angle or
> > > bent.
> > >
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>
> Done this. Everything I can find shows an angled mounting bracket.
>
>
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Do you have any information on the part you used.
I searched the net and can't find any information for a Winnebago Elante suburban instalation.
I am in the process of installing a Suburban furnace on o flat plenum, and it looks like you solution can save me some time.
Part numbers would be great.
--
1977 Kingsley 455 as stock as it gets except lots of Ragusa parts
 
> Do you have any information on the part you used.
> I searched the net and can't find any information for a Winnebago Elante suburban instalation.
> I am in the process of installing a Suburban furnace on o flat plenum, and it looks like you solution can save me some time.
> Part numbers would be great.

X2. I can't even find a picture of it...but I will probably end up cutting and welding mine, and then using some high-heat silicone hose for the
intake.
 
Mike,
I live in Washington state. I'M currently in Arizona, don't have my GMC
file with me.
When I did mine, I called Suburban told parts what I wanted. IRCC it cost
around $15.00.
Terry

> > Do you have any information on the part you used.
> > I searched the net and can't find any information for a Winnebago
> Elante suburban instalation.
> > I am in the process of installing a Suburban furnace on o flat plenum,
> and it looks like you solution can save me some time.
> > Part numbers would be great.
>
>
> X2. I can't even find a picture of it...but I will probably end up cutting
> and welding mine, and then using some high-heat silicone hose for the
> intake.
>
>
>
>
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I found the part numbers.
Winnebago part number:
098668-01-707

Suburban part number:
260193

Although I still have not found a seller for this part.

--
1977 Kingsley 455 as stock as it gets except lots of Ragusa parts
 
An Internet search for 260193 brings up a Winnebago site
http://www.winnebagoind.com/service/wincd/1997/97w327rc.pdf http://www.winnebagoind.com/service/wincd/1997/97w327rc.pdf

That also shows the Winnebago part number.

An Amazon search for 098668-01-707 brings up
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dautomotive&field-keywords=098668-01-707&rh=n%3A15684181%2Ck%3A098668-01-707 https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=automotive&field-keywords=098668-01-707&rh=n:15684181,k:098668-01-707

Is that the part you need?

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

>
> I found the part numbers.
> Winnebago part number:
> 098668-01-707
>
> Suburban part number:
> 260193
>
> Although I still have not found a seller for this part.
>
>
> --
> 1977 Kingsley 455 as stock as it gets except lots of Ragusa parts
>
> _______________________________________________
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> An Internet search for 260193 brings up a Winnebago site
> http://www.winnebagoind.com/service/wincd/1997/97w327rc.pdf
>
> That also shows the Winnebago part number.
>
> An Amazon search for 098668-01-707 brings up
> https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dautomotive&field-keywords=098668-01-707&rh=n%3A15684181%2Ck%3A098668-01-707
>
> Is that the part you need?
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO

> >
> > I found the part numbers.
> > Winnebago part number:
> > 098668-01-707
> >
> > Suburban part number:
> > 260193
> >
> > Although I still have not found a seller for this part.
> >
> >
> > --
> > 1977 Kingsley 455 as stock as it gets except lots of Ragusa parts
> >
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Hard to say. It definitely doesn't look angled in the picture, but maybe they used the wrong photo?
 
The amazon is the wrong part number.
The winni site is where i found the part number.
I'm trying to see if winnebago has the part. Haven't heard back from them yet.

--
1977 Kingsley 455 as stock as it gets except lots of Ragusa parts
 
Looks like I may have the wrong part number.
The one I think I need is :
Winnebago p/n 092300-01-711
Suburban p/n x260179

The other one fits a lot of Winnebago with flat sides.

No picture on there parts list for the Elante.
I' m trying to get a picture of this part from Winnebago to confirm it is right.

--
1977 Kingsley 455 as stock as it gets except lots of Ragusa parts
 
Winnebago no longer sells parts for this furnace. They suggest going to suburban for the part.
So far no response from suburban.
--
1977 Kingsley 455 as stock as it gets except lots of Ragusa parts
 
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