stupid generator

Seriously thinking about pulling my Oman 4K and converting to storage as we don’t use it either.

Randy Hecht
Roswell, GA

1974 Canyon Lands GMC Motor-coach

>
> I had it running nice last fall,
> Now it's running like an old soviet tractor, lots of smoke and no power.
> I've never actually used it for real in 12 years. Just worked on it and tested it.
> It's a big ol Onan Emerald, I'd probably gain an MPG by leaving it at home
>
>
> Keith Vasilakes
> Mounds View MN
> 76 exRoyale
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I would offer
To help. But I have a really bad track record when it comes to keeping generators working.

I can usually get them running, but they will fail you when needed. I am putting the hitch carrier and my backup generator(that has failed me too)
On for this weekend trip.

Can you check the voltage?? Onans like clean voltage to run well. Maybe slip
Rings??

Flight systems has some good troubleshooting.

https://www.flightsystems.com/troubleshooting/
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Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
 
> I had it running nice last fall, Now it's running like an old soviet tractor, lots of smoke and no power.

I'd be looking into a float problem in the carb. Lots of smoke = running rich.. and if you haven't moved the main jet adjustment then a float/needle
not closing correctly is about the only explanation. If I didn't find the problem in the carb then I'd look into ignition (dirty points, fouled plug,
etc).

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1977 Eleganza II
1977 Royale
Hamilton, OH
 
Kinda sounds like the choke is not opening after initial startup.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

> > I had it running nice last fall, Now it's running like an old soviet
> tractor, lots of smoke and no power.
>
> I'd be looking into a float problem in the carb. Lots of smoke = running
> rich.. and if you haven't moved the main jet adjustment then a float/needle
> not closing correctly is about the only explanation. If I didn't find the
> problem in the carb then I'd look into ignition (dirty points, fouled plug,
> etc).
>
> --
> Jim Miller
> 1977 Eleganza II
> 1977 Royale
> Hamilton, OH
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Yeah probably carb, maybe choke, I'll check that before I remove it with some C4.
Probably not points since it's an Emerald not a original Onan

I just see all that storage space and weight and wonder why I'm hauling that boat anchor around
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From: James Hupy
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 4:23 PM
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Subject: [GMCnet] Re: stupid generator

Kinda sounds like the choke is not opening after initial startup.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

> > I had it running nice last fall, Now it's running like an old soviet
> tractor, lots of smoke and no power.
>
> I'd be looking into a float problem in the carb. Lots of smoke = running
> rich.. and if you haven't moved the main jet adjustment then a float/needle
> not closing correctly is about the only explanation. If I didn't find the
> problem in the carb then I'd look into ignition (dirty points, fouled plug,
> etc).
>
> --
> Jim Miller
> 1977 Eleganza II
> 1977 Royale
> Hamilton, OH
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Probably could remove it, and fill that vacant space with spare parts that
you will never use and might outweigh the Onan.(GRIN)
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

> Yeah probably carb, maybe choke, I'll check that before I remove it with
> some C4.
> Probably not points since it's an Emerald not a original Onan
>
> I just see all that storage space and weight and wonder why I'm hauling
> that boat anchor around
> ________________________________
> From: James Hupy
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 4:23 PM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: [GMCnet] Re: stupid generator
>
> Kinda sounds like the choke is not opening after initial startup.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>

>

> > > I had it running nice last fall, Now it's running like an old soviet
> > tractor, lots of smoke and no power.
> >
> > I'd be looking into a float problem in the carb. Lots of smoke = running
> > rich.. and if you haven't moved the main jet adjustment then a
> float/needle
> > not closing correctly is about the only explanation. If I didn't find the
> > problem in the carb then I'd look into ignition (dirty points, fouled
> plug,
> > etc).
> >
> > --
> > Jim Miller
> > 1977 Eleganza II
> > 1977 Royale
> > Hamilton, OH
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you know me too well!

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Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 4:54 PM
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Subject: [GMCnet] Re: stupid generator

Probably could remove it, and fill that vacant space with spare parts that
you will never use and might outweigh the Onan.(GRIN)
 
A working generator can really be helpful if

You lose your alternator but want to continue to drive
Your cab ac malfunctions, it’s hot out and you would like to continue to
drive.
Your dc/propane/ac fridge malfunctions and will only work on ac mid trip.

I’m sure there are other compelling reasons.

Sully
Bellevue wa

> you know me too well!
>
> ________________________________
> From: James Hupy
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 4:54 PM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: [GMCnet] Re: stupid generator
>
> Probably could remove it, and fill that vacant space with spare parts that
> you will never use and might outweigh the Onan.(GRIN)
>
>
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Used mine a lot and for all the reasons you mentioned, plus making
cappuccino when we did not have hook-ups.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

> A working generator can really be helpful if
>
> You lose your alternator but want to continue to drive
> Your cab ac malfunctions, it’s hot out and you would like to continue to
> drive.
> Your dc/propane/ac fridge malfunctions and will only work on ac mid trip.
>
> I’m sure there are other compelling reasons.
>
> Sully
> Bellevue wa
>

>
> > you know me too well!
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: James Hupy
> > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 4:54 PM
> > To: gmclist
> > Subject: [GMCnet] Re: stupid generator
> >
> > Probably could remove it, and fill that vacant space with spare parts
> that
> > you will never use and might outweigh the Onan.(GRIN)
> >
> >
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In my book, a good running gen is like a good spare tire.
Great to fire up the microwave,roof a/c.

> Generators are great when they work.
>
> Not so great when they don’t.
>
>
> --
> Jon Roche
> 75 palm beach
> EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
> St. Cloud, MN
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> In my book, a good running gen is like a good spare tire.
> Great to fire up the microwave,roof a/c.
> --
> Jim Kanomata ASE

Jim,

I hope you don't mind if I borrow that one from time to time.

Matt
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Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
 
> > In my book, a good running gen is like a good spare tire.
> > Great to fire up the microwave,roof a/c.
> > --
> > Jim Kanomata ASE
>
> Jim,
>
> I hope you don't mind if I borrow that one from time to time.
>
> Matt

I've got a "good spare tire" around my waist...

And I'm usually the one that fires up the generator to run the rooftop ac and microwave...

Maybe that's what Jim was talking about ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Manny 1 Ton Front End,
Howell Injection,
Leigh Harrison 4bag and Rear Brakes,
Fort Worth, TX
 
Besides the multiple problems that I have encountered with my original 6k Onan, the one that resisted rebuilding of the carb, jet adjustment etc. was
a terrible hunting rpm problem. Just for the heck of it, I sprayed carb cleaner on the carb while the unit was running and immediately the rpm
smoothed out. Found that the axle for the throttle leaves was so loose in the carb body that air was coming in through the gap throwing off the fuel
air mixture. Didn't have an immediate way of rebushing this but found a substitute carb on Ebay with almost the same manufactures number, installed
it and the Onan runs like new.
 
We supply rebuilt Onan carbs, not a one with a new kit only as that does
not address the worn parts.

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 9:48 AM Robert J. Gogan
wrote:

> Besides the multiple problems that I have encountered with my original 6k
> Onan, the one that resisted rebuilding of the carb, jet adjustment etc. was
> a terrible hunting rpm problem. Just for the heck of it, I sprayed carb
> cleaner on the carb while the unit was running and immediately the rpm
> smoothed out. Found that the axle for the throttle leaves was so loose in
> the carb body that air was coming in through the gap throwing off the fuel
> air mixture. Didn't have an immediate way of rebushing this but found a
> substitute carb on Ebay with almost the same manufactures number, installed
> it and the Onan runs like new.
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1-800-752-7502
 
John,
10-4

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 8:30 PM John R. Lebetski
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> A motorhome with no generator is a van
> --
> John Lebetski
> Woodstock, IL
> 77 Eleganza II
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Right?? Haha

Sully
Bellevue wa

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 8:30 PM John R. Lebetski
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> A motorhome with no generator is a van
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> John Lebetski
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Update,
It looks like the float isn't shutting off the fuel so it's overfilling the bowl and running really rich.
If I pull the pump fuse it runs better until it empties the bowl.
Carb rebuild kit on the way.

Maybe I'll keep it 😋
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From: Todd Sullivan
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 11:07 AM
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Subject: [GMCnet] Re: stupid generator

Right?? Haha

Sully
Bellevue wa

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 8:30 PM John R. Lebetski
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> A motorhome with no generator is a van
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> John Lebetski
> Woodstock, IL
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