roof lights

Ken,

That's mo betta than my idea!

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808


-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Ken Burton
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 6:57 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] roof lights

I used stainless screws with a spot of anti-seize on the threads for ease of future removal and an added O-ring under each head as a
seal. No leaks.

--
Ken
 
O-rings would be a great idea. Bob Burkitt suggested screws with o-rings on them. The sealant didn't work, too goopy, not enough of a lip for any of
it to sit on, I tried one with it and gave up.

For now the lights are on, I tightened the screws pretty snug but didn't totally flatten the pad. Did this with the lights on, they were all the
same, reverse of what I expected. I bought bullet crimps and removed the plastic exterior so they would fit in the rubber sleeve that was on the
coach, and put some shrink wrap around the end once I was done crimping.

Here's hoping I don't have a leak where I didn't before.

The rear lights will be much more of a project, they're sealed to the roof and one has the rivet.

Something accomplished on this weekend; I didn't have a lot of free time- so I'll take it
Turns out my passenger headlight is out, so I have to figure out how to get that out.. I think through the back?

kelly

> Ken,
>
> That's mo betta than my idea!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Ken Burton
> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 6:57 AM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] roof lights
>
> I used stainless screws with a spot of anti-seize on the threads for ease of future removal and an added O-ring under each head as a
> seal. No leaks.
>
> --
> Ken
>
>
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1978 Kingsley
Putney VT
 
Help!

After easy success with the front lights, I ended up pulling the first rear light out of and losing the wire. I was able to find the wire; but it
seriously does not reach. I can get the end of the rubber part from the hot wire up to the hole, but no further. then the rubber started ripping
(meaning I may have a live 12V wire that can ground out to metal).

So, what next? Do I pull the upper cabinets in the back and remove the plastic end cap? How hard is that to do? Can I bend the endcap down and get
my tiny girl hands up in there? Do I try fishing a wire from the middle over to the end light and clip into that light??

As soon as it was hard to pull, I should have stopped, cut the wires and attached to the ones that went to the old light :(

--
1978 Kingsley
Putney VT
 
Kelly,

You may be OK, the only metal in the end cap is the rivet nuts that the light screw into and they're surrounded by plastic.

I would suggest you use a set of needle nose pliers to hold short end while plugging one of the lights wire into it.

When you've got it connected turn the lights on and see what happens. If the light comes on your good to go; if not try swapping the
wires from the light.

I have assumed that you installed LED lights and they only work when wired one way.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808


-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of kelly stockwell
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 7:02 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] roof lights

Help!

After easy success with the front lights, I ended up pulling the first rear light out of and losing the wire. I was able to find
the wire; but it seriously does not reach. I can get the end of the rubber part from the hot wire up to the hole, but no further.
then the rubber started ripping (meaning I may have a live 12V wire that can ground out to metal).

So, what next? Do I pull the upper cabinets in the back and remove the plastic end cap? How hard is that to do? Can I bend the
endcap down and get my tiny girl hands up in there? Do I try fishing a wire from the middle over to the end light and clip into
that light??

As soon as it was hard to pull, I should have stopped, cut the wires and attached to the ones that went to the old light :(

1978 Kingsley
Putney VT
 
I couldn't quite plug in the new light while holding the existing wire, I'll dig for narrower needle nose and try again.

I think at this point I'll see what I can do for the other lights, if this is the lone holdout/problem then I'll try to fish a line from the center
over. If other give me trouble I may end up removing the rear plastic end cap :o

> Kelly,
>
> You may be OK, the only metal in the end cap is the rivet nuts that the light screw into and they're surrounded by plastic.
>
> I would suggest you use a set of needle nose pliers to hold short end while plugging one of the lights wire into it.
>
> When you've got it connected turn the lights on and see what happens. If the light comes on your good to go; if not try swapping the
> wires from the light.
>
> I have assumed that you installed LED lights and they only work when wired one way.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of kelly stockwell
> Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 7:02 AM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] roof lights
>
> Help!
>
> After easy success with the front lights, I ended up pulling the first rear light out of and losing the wire. I was able to find
> the wire; but it seriously does not reach. I can get the end of the rubber part from the hot wire up to the hole, but no further.
> then the rubber started ripping (meaning I may have a live 12V wire that can ground out to metal).
>
> So, what next? Do I pull the upper cabinets in the back and remove the plastic end cap? How hard is that to do? Can I bend the
> endcap down and get my tiny girl hands up in there? Do I try fishing a wire from the middle over to the end light and clip into
> that light??
>
> As soon as it was hard to pull, I should have stopped, cut the wires and attached to the ones that went to the old light :(
>
> 1978 Kingsley
> Putney VT
>
>
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1978 Kingsley
Putney VT
 
Use a hemostat to hold onto the wires. An ounce of prevention is better
than a pound of cure.
Jim Hupy

> I couldn't quite plug in the new light while holding the existing wire,
> I'll dig for narrower needle nose and try again.
>
> I think at this point I'll see what I can do for the other lights, if this
> is the lone holdout/problem then I'll try to fish a line from the center
> over. If other give me trouble I may end up removing the rear plastic end
> cap :o
>
>
>

> > Kelly,
> >
> > You may be OK, the only metal in the end cap is the rivet nuts that the
> light screw into and they're surrounded by plastic.
> >
> > I would suggest you use a set of needle nose pliers to hold short end
> while plugging one of the lights wire into it.
> >
> > When you've got it connected turn the lights on and see what happens. If
> the light comes on your good to go; if not try swapping the
> > wires from the light.
> >
> > I have assumed that you installed LED lights and they only work when
> wired one way.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rob M.
> > The Pedantic Mechanic
> > Sydney, Australia
> > AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> > USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> > USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of
> kelly stockwell
> > Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 7:02 AM
> > To: gmclist
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] roof lights
> >
> > Help!
> >
> > After easy success with the front lights, I ended up pulling the first
> rear light out of and losing the wire. I was able to find
> > the wire; but it seriously does not reach. I can get the end of the
> rubber part from the hot wire up to the hole, but no further.
> > then the rubber started ripping (meaning I may have a live 12V wire that
> can ground out to metal).
> >
> > So, what next? Do I pull the upper cabinets in the back and remove the
> plastic end cap? How hard is that to do? Can I bend the
> > endcap down and get my tiny girl hands up in there? Do I try fishing a
> wire from the middle over to the end light and clip into
> > that light??
> >
> > As soon as it was hard to pull, I should have stopped, cut the wires and
> attached to the ones that went to the old light :(
> >
> > 1978 Kingsley
> > Putney VT
> >
> >
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>
> --
> 1978 Kingsley
> Putney VT
>
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I'll be more preventative. too much confidence bites me in the ass

> Use a hemostat to hold onto the wires. An ounce of prevention is better
> than a pound of cure.
> Jim Hupy
>

>
> > I couldn't quite plug in the new light while holding the existing wire,
> > I'll dig for narrower needle nose and try again.
> >
> > I think at this point I'll see what I can do for the other lights, if this
> > is the lone holdout/problem then I'll try to fish a line from the center
> > over. If other give me trouble I may end up removing the rear plastic end
> > cap :o
> >
> >
> >

> >> Kelly,
> >>
> >> You may be OK, the only metal in the end cap is the rivet nuts that the
> > light screw into and they're surrounded by plastic.
> >>
> >> I would suggest you use a set of needle nose pliers to hold short end
> > while plugging one of the lights wire into it.
> >>
> >> When you've got it connected turn the lights on and see what happens. If
> > the light comes on your good to go; if not try swapping the
> >> wires from the light.
> >>
> >> I have assumed that you installed LED lights and they only work when
> > wired one way.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Rob M.
> >> The Pedantic Mechanic
> >> Sydney, Australia
> >> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> >> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> >> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of
> > kelly stockwell
> >> Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 7:02 AM
> >> To: gmclist
> >> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] roof lights
> >>
> >> Help!
> >>
> >> After easy success with the front lights, I ended up pulling the first
> > rear light out of and losing the wire. I was able to find
> >> the wire; but it seriously does not reach. I can get the end of the
> > rubber part from the hot wire up to the hole, but no further.
> >> then the rubber started ripping (meaning I may have a live 12V wire that
> > can ground out to metal).
> >>
> >> So, what next? Do I pull the upper cabinets in the back and remove the
> > plastic end cap? How hard is that to do? Can I bend the
> >> endcap down and get my tiny girl hands up in there? Do I try fishing a
> > wire from the middle over to the end light and clip into
> >> that light??
> >>
> >> As soon as it was hard to pull, I should have stopped, cut the wires and
> > attached to the ones that went to the old light :(
> >>
> >> 1978 Kingsley
> >> Putney VT
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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> >
> >
> > --
> > 1978 Kingsley
> > Putney VT
> >
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Putney VT
 
Jim,

I was going to suggest the same thing, however, I didn't think she'd have one; she's probably NOT a tool junkie like you and me! :-)

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808


-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of James Hupy
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 11:46 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] roof lights

Use a hemostat to hold onto the wires. An ounce of prevention is better
than a pound of cure.
Jim Hupy
 
it looks like a roach clip.. those are now legal in Vermont

> Jim,
>
> I was going to suggest the same thing, however, I didn't think she'd have one; she's probably NOT a tool junkie like you and me! :)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of James Hupy
> Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 11:46 AM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] roof lights
>
> Use a hemostat to hold onto the wires. An ounce of prevention is better
> than a pound of cure.
> Jim Hupy
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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1978 Kingsley
Putney VT
 
And, here in Colorado.

> it looks like a roach clip.. those are now legal in Vermont
>
>
>

> > Jim,
> >
> > I was going to suggest the same thing, however, I didn't think she'd
> have one; she's probably NOT a tool junkie like you and me! :)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rob M.
> > The Pedantic Mechanic
> > Sydney, Australia
> > AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> > USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> > USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of
> James Hupy
> > Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 11:46 AM
> > To: gmclist
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] roof lights
> >
> > Use a hemostat to hold onto the wires. An ounce of prevention is better
> > than a pound of cure.
> > Jim Hupy
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GMCnet mailing list
> > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> > http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>
>
> --
> 1978 Kingsley
> Putney VT
>
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William S. Schurman
box 772806
Steamboat Springs, CO
80477
1978 Palm Beach
TZE168V100258
 
Too harsh a locking action for a good "roach clip". That is what the
inmates that I used to teach told me. No direct personal experience. Our
agency had a 0 tolerance against drugs. No circumstances of personal
involvement with them were permitted. 100% of the time it was cause for
termination. No exceptions. No matter what rank or number of years of
tenure. As a union steward, I represented several employees who thought
that rule didn't apply to them. Never ever prevailed, nor particularly
wanted to. Didn't want to work with impaired co-workers, who might be
inclined to look the other way.
My personal opinion, the whole country should adopt that policy.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403

> it looks like a roach clip.. those are now legal in Vermont
>
>
>

> > Jim,
> >
> > I was going to suggest the same thing, however, I didn't think she'd
> have one; she's probably NOT a tool junkie like you and me! :)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rob M.
> > The Pedantic Mechanic
> > Sydney, Australia
> > AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> > USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> > USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of
> James Hupy
> > Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 11:46 AM
> > To: gmclist
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] roof lights
> >
> > Use a hemostat to hold onto the wires. An ounce of prevention is better
> > than a pound of cure.
> > Jim Hupy
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GMCnet mailing list
> > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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>
>
> --
> 1978 Kingsley
> Putney VT
>
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> it looks like a roach clip.. those are now legal in Vermont

Kelly,

If you can get the curved jaw kind of hemostat and file the teeth flat, you can hold the wire without damaging it. I used to have a set for doing
this sort of thing (boats are terrible to work on). I don't remember seeing them as the tool boxes have been broken up, but if you need, I could do a
search and possibly find them and send them to you. It might be a while, my engine is still on the barn floor.

Matt
--
Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
 
it's nice to work for a company that makes things. Borrowing a nice curved hemostat, it has a gap where the teeth meet on the "loosest" setting,
hopefully I won't damage the wire.

> > it looks like a roach clip.. those are now legal in Vermont
>
> Kelly,
>
> If you can get the curved jaw kind of hemostat and file the teeth flat, you can hold the wire without damaging it. I used to have a set for doing
> this sort of thing (boats are terrible to work on). I don't remember seeing them as the tool boxes have been broken up, but if you need, I could do
> a search and possibly find them and send them to you. It might be a while, my engine is still on the barn floor.
>
> Matt

--
1978 Kingsley
Putney VT
 
I ripped the wire with the tool, so I threaded two wires from the next light over and I'll piggy back on that.

It wasn't all that hard

kelly
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1978 Kingsley
Putney VT
 
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