Refrigerator question

heinz wittenbecher

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I'm pondering my options. reason for pondering is that now my fridge cools
better on 110 then propane and it used to me the other way around.

I'll probably try the upside down trick just for the h... of it, but am
thinking ahead to may having to replace it.

I'd prefer to go 12V & 110 if I can be convinced that 12volt operation in a
2-way is indeed feasable.
Patrick: you installed one a while back? any feedback from the battlegrounds
yet?

I think a 5amp draw was mentioned... not that I can afford another 5amps,
but.... :-)

Of course if it cools like on 12Volt of the 3-way then I'm back to propane.

Thanks

Heinz
 
That's same with my current 3-way.
I'm hoping that the 2-way is better as apparently it uses a different scheme
of things.

Hoping that someone with a newer 2-way will jump in and confirm or dispell
the rumor :-)

Heinz

>Heinz:
>
>You asked about 12V refrigerator operation. I have a fairly new 3-way
Norcold
>and it works great on 110V and propane but it's no good on 12V. If I cool
it
>down on 110V or propane then switch to 12V it starts to warm up and won't
>hold a safe temperature. I don't use 12V.
>
>Jim Greer
>GMC73CL
>
>
 
>
> I'd prefer to go 12V & 110 if I can be convinced that 12volt operation in a
> 2-way is indeed feasable.
> Patrick: you installed one a while back? any feedback from the battlegrounds
> yet?
>
> I think a 5amp draw was mentioned... not that I can afford another 5amps,
> but.... :-)

Well, since it's in dad's coach, it's getting some mileage(unlike
mine). It's a Norcold DE461 that uses a 12V compressor. Only 5A
on 12V vs. 8A for the original fridge. Dad's pleased so far. I'll
probably be chatting with him tonite and I'll ask for an update. I'm
planning to put one in my coach - when I get that far...

Patrick
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Thanks for checking Patrick.
I'm assuming he's seen some hot weather with it?

Heinz

>>
>> I'd prefer to go 12V & 110 if I can be convinced that 12volt operation in
a
>> 2-way is indeed feasable.
>> Patrick: you installed one a while back? any feedback from the
battlegrounds
>> yet?
>>
>> I think a 5amp draw was mentioned... not that I can afford another 5amps,
>> but.... :-)
>
>Well, since it's in dad's coach, it's getting some mileage(unlike
>mine). It's a Norcold DE461 that uses a 12V compressor. Only 5A
>on 12V vs. 8A for the original fridge. Dad's pleased so far. I'll
>probably be chatting with him tonite and I'll ask for an update. I'm
>planning to put one in my coach - when I get that far...
>
>Patrick
>--
>Patrick Flowers
>Mailto:patrick
>
>The GMC Motorhome Page
>http://www.gmcmotorhome.com
>
>
 
>Heinz, I have the 3 way and think I wasted money on the 12V.
>Justin
>

Yeah... me too.
It sounded good at the time :-)

I'd like to get rid if the propane if I can.... as in if a 2-way cools good
on 12Volts, as in under way.

Heinz

>
 
>
> Thanks for checking Patrick.
> I'm assuming he's seen some hot weather with it?

Heinz,

Chatted with dad last nite. Said the new fridge works great. His only
gripe is that the shelves aren't adjustable and he can't get a quart of
home-made pickles in it! Cools much better than the original fridge
on 12V. Claims it will make ice in about 3 hours where the original
took overnight. It's been a nasty July in the South, so it's seen
plenty of heat.

Remember, the DE461 uses a 12V compressor and is Freon(or whatever
envirofriendly refrigerant they used) based, not ammonia. It'll cool as
well as the propane types and no plumbing gas. That's why I recommended
it to dad when his went south and I'll put one in mine as soon as I get
to the galley.

HTH,
Patrick
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>
> In a message dated 7/27/99 9:29:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>
> > the DE461 uses a 12V compressor and is Freon(or whatever
> > envirofriendly refrigerant they used) based, not ammonia.
> Hi Patrick!
> sorry who makes these Ref--
>
> Sounds nice with freon---got a phone number of MFG., How much was it?

'Scuse me - common geek malady - speaking in shorthand. It's a Norcold
DE461, can be seen at www.norcold.com - contact info is there too. Call
their tech folks and they'll tell ya' all about it.

One thing - don't let a salesman tell you that the DE561 is the current
model. For some reason Norcold went backwards with their numbering.
The DE561 was replaced by the DE461, which has two cooling fans and a
more efficient compressor than the DE561.

Patrick
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>
> Next question... where did you buy and why (as in why did you buy there), i.e. did you shop around?

Didn't shop around as dad was in a hurry - ready to leave on a trip, but
the fridge quit. An RV shop that I do some web work for got me one at
cost - I don't know what the usual price would be, but I can check if
you want.

> Do you recall the cost?

IIRC, with NC sales tax and picking it up at his shop, a little more
than US$1100. He can have them drop-shipped, but again, I'd have to
check on the price.

Patrick
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Patrick --

1). Is this the one or two compressor model?
2). Where'd you get it and how much? (If you don't mind my asking)

Mark

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[snip]
|Remember, the DE461 uses a 12V compressor and is Freon(or whatever
|envirofriendly refrigerant they used) based, not ammonia. It'll cool as
|well as the propane types and no plumbing gas. That's why I recommended
|it to dad when his went south and I'll put one in mine as soon as I get
|to the galley.
|
|HTH,
|Patrick
|--
|Patrick Flowers
|Mailto:patrick
 
>
> 1). Is this the one or two compressor model?

AFAIK, just one compressor - two fans, one on the compressor and another
on the power supply.

> 2). Where'd you get it and how much? (If you don't mind my asking)

See other post in reply to Heinz for all the gory details.

Patrick
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