Refrig replacement or keep discussion

[tom geiger]

Just had a couple of question in this consideration guys. Good info on both electric and propane.

Propane, what are the model recommendations for this. Is 2-way or 3-way recommended and what brand and models?

Electric, if I were to stay with my electric setup, would I want to go to a second set of golf cart batteries say up front and how do I wire that up
to the rest of the electrical system to pull from for fridge and charge them back up. I have seen a Reguso dbl battery setup up front where the
existing engine battery is. In doing this will this get me enough capacity to say go for 4 days or so on electrical charge if needed for the fridge?
Lights and the occasional water pump use would likely be the items used over those days.

Thanks,
Tom
76 Eleganza II

 

[johnny]

I have a Dometic three way in one coach and a Norcold three way in the other. Both work fine, I like the Dometic cos it has a separate door for the
freezer.

--johnny

--
'76 23' transmode Norris upfit, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"The road goes on forever, and the party never ends" --Robert Earl Keen

 

[tom geiger]

Thanks Johnny, would you happen to have their model numbers?

 

[mark sawyer]

> Just had a couple of question in this consideration guys. Good info on both electric and propane.
>
> Propane, what are the model recommendations for this. Is 2-way or 3-way recommended and what brand and models?
>
> Electric, if I were to stay with my electric setup, would I want to go to a second set of golf cart batteries say up front and how do I wire
> that up to the rest of the electrical system to pull from for fridge and charge them back up. I have seen a Reguso dbl battery setup up front where
> the existing engine battery is. In doing this will this get me enough capacity to say go for 4 days or so on electrical charge if needed for the
> fridge? Lights and the occasional water pump use would likely be the items used over those days.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
> 76 Eleganza II

FWIW, on our electric setup uses the Ragusa shelf you mention in front with 2 golf cart batts, and an additional 2 golf cart batts in the rear gen
compartment. It's wired with 3/0 copper to a Perko switch near the inverter. The Perko lets you select bank 1, 2 both or off. Would suggest you
fuse these runs as well as running them in some sort of conduit to protect against shorts. A lot of amperage going through these wires...

We get up to 4 days, if using the batteries minimally, (except for the fridge) in moderately warm weather. When it's 105, we get somewhat less...
say 2 days and change. It all depends on use and state of the batts, weather, how often you are in the fridge, other loads... YMMV...

--
Mark S. '73 Painted Desert,
Manny 1 Ton Front End,
Howell Injection,
Leigh Harrison 4bag and Rear Brakes,
Fort Worth, TX

 

[LQQKatJon]

Read my write up on my blog.

For propane, I prefer a Dometic. It is the only one I found that allows for proper installation in our GMC per installation instructions/manual.
(Lower vent is higher the. Bottom of fridge). Floor models vary, but They key measurement to fit as close to sidewall of coach and inbetween wheel
well i think is 53 3/4". Or a dometic rm 2652

I also found many many more dometic models out that are similar and it was easier finding parts and actual used dometic then i seen norcolds. I
needed oppisite door hindgea and the local rv place had them in stock. Very common fridges.

I know lots of norcold installs and I am sure there are some that prefer them? Nothing wrong with them, the above is my thoughts.

2 way or 3 way, i think a matter of cost. Adding the 12v function for in motion really not a deal breaker. I run mine on propane down the road.
Others do not like that, and if you are traveling a couple hours at a time I dont think shitting off fridge will make much difference in that short
timeframe. If you plan on driving and want propane off for 1/2 a day or longer get a 3 way or wire in an inverter to run the 110v side.
--
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/

 

[Carl Stouffer]

I switched ours from the original all electric Norcold to a Norcold 641.3 three way, to gain efficiency for dry camping. The old electric fridge
would drain my house batteries (2 - GC-2) in short order and I was told that it would drain them overnight. Granted, the old fridge was not in good
condition and wasn't sealed very well. I ran the fridge on DC electric overnight and used a small generator during the day when dry camping the first
few years.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5863-norcold-refrigerator-installation.html

I use the 12v operation setting when driving, although some people just leave theirs on propane. RVers have been doing this for years without issue
(if everything is in good condition). Others turn the fridge (and the propane) off while driving, keeping the door closed except for short times to
quickly get something out. The fridge uses very little propane and almost no DC when dry camping and when plugged in, it automatically switches to
AC. We couldn't be happier with this setup.

I also have 195 watts of solar on the roof which replenishes the batteries daily.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6227-solar-battery-charging.html

JWID
--
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles,
Solar battery charging

 

[Ken B]

I had a Norcold 3 way that died after 28 years of service. I removed it and on the way out the door carrying it I slipped on the Ragusa step and
broke my left foot. I was planning to take it to Leon in Shipshewana and have a new cooling unit installed. Because I was on crutches now, I instead
ordered a new Dometic 2652 and had it delivered. My daughter installed it in a couple of hours.

The 2652 is a 2 way (propane and 120 volt). I have had zero problems with it in the 12 years since them. I run it on automatic all the time and it
chooses which source to use. The amount of propane that is uses is insignificant. I fill up my propane about every 3 years. I also have a gas stove
and gas furnace that use some of the propane.

I only turn it off when filling the gasoline tank. Otherwise it stays on auto from the time I leave on a trip until I return. It has worked fine
in all temperatures between 20 F. and 100 F.
--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana

 

[emerystora]

I had put in a 3 way but I have never used the 12 volt. It runs on propane except when I plug in or run the Onan. Then it switches automatically.
If I ever have to replace it I will buy the 2 way.

We use our propane when going down the road — for the refrigerator, furnace an stove. Been doing it that way for about 30 years — ever since the original 12 volt only refrigerator went out.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

>
> I had a Norcold 3 way that died after 28 years of service. I removed it and on the way out the door carrying it I slipped on the Ragusa step and
> broke my left foot. I was planning to take it to Leon in Shipshewana and have a new cooling unit installed. Because I was on crutches now, I instead
> ordered a new Dometic 2652 and had it delivered. My daughter installed it in a couple of hours.
>
> The 2652 is a 2 way (propane and 120 volt). I have had zero problems with it in the 12 years since them. I run it on automatic all the time and it
> chooses which source to use. The amount of propane that is uses is insignificant. I fill up my propane about every 3 years. I also have a gas stove
> and gas furnace that use some of the propane.
>
> I only turn it off when filling the gasoline tank. Otherwise it stays on auto from the time I leave on a trip until I return. It has worked fine
> in all temperatures between 20 F. and 100 F.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
>
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[tom geiger]

Thanks all fir the good info. Looks like I'll start shopping for a 2-way. Since this will be the first time for a propane fridge I'll some prep work
to do for the installation. Appreciate the help!

Tom
76 Eleganza ll

 

[LQQKatJon]

Tom,

contact me if you have other concerns. here is the write up on my blog:

http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/search?q=fridge

the only thing I would do differently, would be using come computer fans, or different setup for the fan. I took an easy way, but you could put
in a 12volt computer fan, and easy wire it up with a thermostat, or other control.. I am not even sure if the fan is necessary, but mine does come
on(cheap fan you can hear it).

let us know how it goes.



--
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/

 

[tom geiger]

Jon,

Thanks for sending the link and when I get into this when camping starts back up again then I'll will sure get with you and let you know how it came
out. Right now we have a ice storm heading our way that is suppose to produce anywhere from a 1/2" to 3/4" ice. Sure wish I could keep my motorhome
over at my house. Could use the Onan to power stuff up, or at least live in for a few days till power gets restored

Thanks again,
TG
Kansas City

 

[johnny]

TG, I put them on another thread. Norcold 653, Dometic RM3800.

--johnny
--
'76 23' transmode Norris upfit, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"The road goes on forever, and the party never ends" --Robert Earl Keen

 

[slc]

> Thanks all fir the good info. Looks like I'll start shopping for a 2-way. Since this will be the first time for a propane fridge I'll some prep
> work to do for the installation. Appreciate the help!
>
> Tom
> 76 Eleganza ll

I have the 3 way NORCOLD.
I use the 12v DC mode when I need the fridge when traveling. The motor Alternator has no problem keeping the Refer fed.
I am leary of running the propane on the road and indeed some tunnels will insist that you shut down your propane tank. I have concerns of the
emissions coming into the coach while travel as well.

When stopped, you can either just shut it down if going for lunch or to propane if gone for the day.

Camping mode offers Propane for booning or 120vAC at a campground that offers power.

The difference installing a NORCOLD vs Dometic is the coolers on the Norcold are toward the top on my unit. I had to extend the cabinet out about
3/4" to clear the coolers, otherwise install was a piece of cake and I have really enjoyed the Norcold.
Just my take
--
GatsbysCruise. 74GMC Glacier Model.

 

[jim kanomata1]

You might call us for a delivered price.

> > Thanks all fir the good info. Looks like I'll start shopping for a
> 2-way. Since this will be the first time for a propane fridge I'll some prep
> > work to do for the installation. Appreciate the help!
> >
> > Tom
> > 76 Eleganza ll
>
>
>
> I have the 3 way NORCOLD.
> I use the 12v DC mode when I need the fridge when traveling. The motor
> Alternator has no problem keeping the Refer fed.
> I am leary of running the propane on the road and indeed some tunnels will
> insist that you shut down your propane tank. I have concerns of the
> emissions coming into the coach while travel as well.
>
> When stopped, you can either just shut it down if going for lunch or to
> propane if gone for the day.
>
> Camping mode offers Propane for booning or 120vAC at a campground that
> offers power.
>
> The difference installing a NORCOLD vs Dometic is the coolers on the
> Norcold are toward the top on my unit. I had to extend the cabinet out
> about
> 3/4" to clear the coolers, otherwise install was a piece of cake and I
> have really enjoyed the Norcold.
> Just my take
> --
> GatsbysCruise. 74GMC Glacier Model.
>
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jimk
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1-800-752-7502

 

[Ron Clark]

If you're buying a new propane fridge, don't get the Norcold, as there is
no warranty for GMCs, due to the location of the outside vent. For a
warranty, the bottom of the vent must be at or below the bottom of the
fridge compartment. I think the warranty info is near page 4 of the
installation manual. It says if the vents and baffles are not as the
manual says, no warrantee.

Dometic doesn't make that statement.

I'm not saying that the Norcold isn't a good fridge, just that there will
be no warranty.
BTDT.
RonC

> > Thanks all fir the good info. Looks like I'll start shopping for a
> 2-way. Since this will be the first time for a propane fridge I'll
> some prep
> > work to do for the installation. Appreciate the help!
> >
> > Tom
> > 76 Eleganza ll
>
>
>
> I have the 3 way NORCOLD.
> I use the 12v DC mode when I need the fridge when traveling. The
> motor Alternator has no problem keeping the Refer fed.
> I am leary of running the propane on the road and indeed some
> tunnels will insist that you shut down your propane tank. I have
> concerns of the
> emissions coming into the coach while travel as well.
>
> When stopped, you can either just shut it down if going for lunch or
> to propane if gone for the day.
>
> Camping mode offers Propane for booning or 120vAC at a campground
> that offers power.
>
> The difference installing a NORCOLD vs Dometic is the coolers on the
> Norcold are toward the top on my unit. I had to extend the cabinet
> out about
> 3/4" to clear the coolers, otherwise install was a piece of cake and
> I have really enjoyed the Norcold.
> Just my take
> --
> GatsbysCruise. 74GMC Glacier Model.
>
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Ron & Linda Clark
North Plains, ORYGUN
78 Eleganza II

 

[powwerjon]

Ron,
Be aware that most of the GMC models have a rear door behind the frig to allow connection of gas, 12VDC control power, all frig unit require a 12VDC source to operate except the 110 VAC only and 110VAC power, along with the ability to service the components located there. This is the door that is most commonly used.

This is the common replacement grill door assembly.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/topeka-gmc-paint-job/p7820.html
and
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1092

This is the one that was mostly use by GMC for the refrig door
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1838
or
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1017

The early coach did not necessary come with vent doors or vents on top.

This is a very good unit to add or replace a damage vent.
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/864

Any refrigerator from the Dometic and Norcold can be used in the GMC with proper installation.

J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker 18 Year Member
GMCGL Tech Editor
GMC Eastern States Charter Member
GMCMI 18 Year Member
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan

>
> If you're buying a new propane fridge, don't get the Norcold, as there is
> no warranty for GMCs, due to the location of the outside vent. For a
> warranty, the bottom of the vent must be at or below the bottom of the
> fridge compartment. I think the warranty info is near page 4 of the
> installation manual. It says if the vents and baffles are not as the
> manual says, no warrantee.
>
> Dometic doesn't make that statement.
>
> I'm not saying that the Norcold isn't a good fridge, just that there will
> be no warranty.
> BTDT.
> RonC
>

>>> Thanks all fir the good info. Looks like I'll start shopping for a
>> 2-way. Since this will be the first time for a propane fridge I'll
>> some prep
>>> work to do for the installation. Appreciate the help!
>>>
>>> Tom
>>> 76 Eleganza ll
>>
>>
>>
>> I have the 3 way NORCOLD.
>> I use the 12v DC mode when I need the fridge when traveling. The
>> motor Alternator has no problem keeping the Refer fed.
>> I am leary of running the propane on the road and indeed some
>> tunnels will insist that you shut down your propane tank. I have
>> concerns of the
>> emissions coming into the coach while travel as well.
>>
>> When stopped, you can either just shut it down if going for lunch or
>> to propane if gone for the day.
>>
>> Camping mode offers Propane for booning or 120vAC at a campground
>> that offers power.
>>
>> The difference installing a NORCOLD vs Dometic is the coolers on the
>> Norcold are toward the top on my unit. I had to extend the cabinet
>> out about
>> 3/4" to clear the coolers, otherwise install was a piece of cake and
>> I have really enjoyed the Norcold.
>> Just my take
>> --
>> GatsbysCruise. 74GMC Glacier Model.
>>
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>
>
> Ron & Linda Clark
> North Plains, ORYGUN
> 78 Eleganza II
>
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[LQQKatJon]

JR.

I believe Ron is correct, the issue is not that the GMC motorhomes do not have a vent behind the fridge, but the location for that vent in
relationship to the bottom of the fridge.

Usually the GMC fridge bottom sits right on the wheel well, and that is about 6" lower then the beltline of the GMC, and lower than the opening of
the vent.

as seen in this picture:

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TgcwcpeczmA/VvrbM31qFNI/AAAAAAAAT18/SPJoImrN0XAF0rM6uWd24p0MWxnUkgXAg/s1600/IMG_4266.JPG

The Norcold installation instructions states that the vent is to be even with the bottom of the fridge. Not really an option in our coaches.

page 4:
http://www.thetford.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/1309/Installation-Manual-Through-71904.pdf

it really has no instructions as to what do do if the vent is not even with the bottom of the fridge, and I think that is where RonC had issues with
the warantee. It is not installed per there instructions.

Dometic on the other hand, does not list that as an absolute. there is a minimum venting height, in the case of the rm2652 it is 57 1/2" from the
bottom of the lower vent to the roof vent.

I have the manuals for Dometic at home, it is confusing, because i think they have a few different hard to find installation manuals that has
additional information then the "operating and install manual" that is easy to google and find. They also have some ventilation manuals.

the reason that norcold states the vent needs to be at the bottom, is stated for the propane to be able to vent out, so either way, a vent at the
lowest portion of the fridge enclosure is important. I used a simple shower drain on mine.

--
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/

 

[Ron Clark]

Exactly!! And the bottom of that vent must be at or below the bottom of
the fridge compartment. I don't think it's possible to do that, due to
the wheel well location directly below the compartment.
I didn't note the year of "Gatsby's Cruiser" when I replied, but on the
coaches I've noticed with an outside access door, they were all in about
the same location as mine. The bottom of the vent is considerably above
the bottom of the fridge compartment. In my case it was 10", and Norcold
said, "No warranty because vent placement not as required". Wording not
exact, but close.
ron

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 13:17:00 -0700 Jon Roche
writes:
> JR.
>
> I believe Ron is correct, the issue is not that the GMC motorhomes
> do not have a vent behind the fridge, but the location for that
> vent in
> relationship to the bottom of the fridge.
>
> Usually the GMC fridge bottom sits right on the wheel well, and
> that is about 6" lower then the beltline of the GMC, and lower than
> the opening of
> the vent.
>
> as seen in this picture:
>
>
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TgcwcpeczmA/VvrbM31qFNI/AAAAAAAAT18/SPJoImrN0X
AF0rM6uWd24p0MWxnUkgXAg/s1600/IMG_4266.JPG
>
> The Norcold installation instructions states that the vent is to be
> even with the bottom of the fridge. Not really an option in our
> coaches.
>
> page 4:
>
http://www.thetford.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/1309/Installation-Manu
al-Through-71904.pdf
>
>
> it really has no instructions as to what do do if the vent is not
> even with the bottom of the fridge, and I think that is where RonC
> had issues with
> the warantee. It is not installed per there instructions.
>
>
>
> Dometic on the other hand, does not list that as an absolute.
> there is a minimum venting height, in the case of the rm2652 it is
> 57 1/2" from the
> bottom of the lower vent to the roof vent.
>
>
> I have the manuals for Dometic at home, it is confusing, because i
> think they have a few different hard to find installation manuals
> that has
> additional information then the "operating and install manual" that
> is easy to google and find. They also have some ventilation
> manuals.
>
> the reason that norcold states the vent needs to be at the bottom,
> is stated for the propane to be able to vent out, so either way, a
> vent at the
> lowest portion of the fridge enclosure is important. I used a
> simple shower drain on mine.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jon Roche
> 75 palm beach
> St. Cloud, MN
> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
>
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North Plains, ORYGUN
78 Eleganza II

 

[emerystora]

GM handled this problem by using a wooden baffle that leads down from the bottom of the outside door to just below the bottom cooling fins.
Some GMC motorhomes are missing this baffle.
You can see pictures of my install here:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/macerator-and-storage-for-hose/p3556.html http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/macerator-and-storage-for-hose/p3556.html

There is a picture of the baffle included.
I also show GM’s original drawing of the compartment and baffle.

With the baffle you can use a Norcold or a Dometic and they both work well. The upward draft through the roof vent will pull in air through the side vent and it will flow downward to below the fins.
I have a couple of 1” holes drilled in the floor of my refrigerator compartment covered with screening. These holes will allow propane to drain out in case there is a leak as propane is heavier than air.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

>
>
> Exactly!! And the bottom of that vent must be at or below the bottom of
> the fridge compartment. I don't think it's possible to do that, due to
> the wheel well location directly below the compartment.
> I didn't note the year of "Gatsby's Cruiser" when I replied, but on the
> coaches I've noticed with an outside access door, they were all in about
> the same location as mine. The bottom of the vent is considerably above
> the bottom of the fridge compartment. In my case it was 10", and Norcold
> said, "No warranty because vent placement not as required". Wording not
> exact, but close.
> ron
>
> On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 13:17:00 -0700 Jon Roche

>> JR.
>>
>> I believe Ron is correct, the issue is not that the GMC motorhomes
>> do not have a vent behind the fridge, but the location for that
>> vent in
>> relationship to the bottom of the fridge.
>>
>> Usually the GMC fridge bottom sits right on the wheel well, and
>> that is about 6" lower then the beltline of the GMC, and lower than
>> the opening of
>> the vent.
>>
>> as seen in this picture:
>>
>>
> https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TgcwcpeczmA/VvrbM31qFNI/AAAAAAAAT18/SPJoImrN0X
> AF0rM6uWd24p0MWxnUkgXAg/s1600/IMG_4266.JPG
>>
>> The Norcold installation instructions states that the vent is to be
>> even with the bottom of the fridge. Not really an option in our
>> coaches.
>>
>> page 4:
>>
> http://www.thetford.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/1309/Installation-Manu
> al-Through-71904.pdf
>>
>>
>> it really has no instructions as to what do do if the vent is not
>> even with the bottom of the fridge, and I think that is where RonC
>> had issues with
>> the warantee. It is not installed per there instructions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dometic on the other hand, does not list that as an absolute.
>> there is a minimum venting height, in the case of the rm2652 it is
>> 57 1/2" from the
>> bottom of the lower vent to the roof vent.
>>
>>
>> I have the manuals for Dometic at home, it is confusing, because i
>> think they have a few different hard to find installation manuals
>> that has
>> additional information then the "operating and install manual" that
>> is easy to google and find. They also have some ventilation
>> manuals.
>>
>> the reason that norcold states the vent needs to be at the bottom,
>> is stated for the propane to be able to vent out, so either way, a
>> vent at the
>> lowest portion of the fridge enclosure is important. I used a
>> simple shower drain on mine.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jon Roche
>> 75 palm beach
>> St. Cloud, MN
>> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
>>
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>
>
> Ron & Linda Clark
> North Plains, ORYGUN
> 78 Eleganza II
>
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[powwerjon]

Emery,
Which picture shows the baffle, pictures posted show the macerator installation of the hose.
J.R.

>
> GM handled this problem by using a wooden baffle that leads down from the bottom of the outside door to just below the bottom cooling fins.
> Some GMC motorhomes are missing this baffle.
> You can see pictures of my install here:
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/macerator-and-storage-for-hose/p3556.html http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/macerator-and-storage-for-hose/p3556.html
>
> There is a picture of the baffle included.
> I also show GM’s original drawing of the compartment and baffle.
>
> With the baffle you can use a Norcold or a Dometic and they both work well. The upward draft through the roof vent will pull in air through the side vent and it will flow downward to below the fins.
> I have a couple of 1” holes drilled in the floor of my refrigerator compartment covered with screening. These holes will allow propane to drain out in case there is a leak as propane is heavier than air.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
>
>

>>
>>
>> Exactly!! And the bottom of that vent must be at or below the bottom of
>> the fridge compartment. I don't think it's possible to do that, due to
>> the wheel well location directly below the compartment.
>> I didn't note the year of "Gatsby's Cruiser" when I replied, but on the
>> coaches I've noticed with an outside access door, they were all in about
>> the same location as mine. The bottom of the vent is considerably above
>> the bottom of the fridge compartment. In my case it was 10", and Norcold
>> said, "No warranty because vent placement not as required". Wording not
>> exact, but close.
>> ron
>>
>> On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 13:17:00 -0700 Jon Roche

>>> JR.
>>>
>>> I believe Ron is correct, the issue is not that the GMC motorhomes
>>> do not have a vent behind the fridge, but the location for that
>>> vent in
>>> relationship to the bottom of the fridge.
>>>
>>> Usually the GMC fridge bottom sits right on the wheel well, and
>>> that is about 6" lower then the beltline of the GMC, and lower than
>>> the opening of
>>> the vent.
>>>
>>> as seen in this picture:
>>>
>>>
>> https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TgcwcpeczmA/VvrbM31qFNI/AAAAAAAAT18/SPJoImrN0X
>> AF0rM6uWd24p0MWxnUkgXAg/s1600/IMG_4266.JPG
>>>
>>> The Norcold installation instructions states that the vent is to be
>>> even with the bottom of the fridge. Not really an option in our
>>> coaches.
>>>
>>> page 4:
>>>
>> http://www.thetford.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/1309/Installation-Manu
>> al-Through-71904.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> it really has no instructions as to what do do if the vent is not
>>> even with the bottom of the fridge, and I think that is where RonC
>>> had issues with
>>> the warantee. It is not installed per there instructions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dometic on the other hand, does not list that as an absolute.
>>> there is a minimum venting height, in the case of the rm2652 it is
>>> 57 1/2" from the
>>> bottom of the lower vent to the roof vent.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have the manuals for Dometic at home, it is confusing, because i
>>> think they have a few different hard to find installation manuals
>>> that has
>>> additional information then the "operating and install manual" that
>>> is easy to google and find. They also have some ventilation
>>> manuals.
>>>
>>> the reason that norcold states the vent needs to be at the bottom,
>>> is stated for the propane to be able to vent out, so either way, a
>>> vent at the
>>> lowest portion of the fridge enclosure is important. I used a
>>> simple shower drain on mine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jon Roche
>>> 75 palm beach
>>> St. Cloud, MN
>>> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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>>
>>
>> Ron & Linda Clark
>> North Plains, ORYGUN
>> 78 Eleganza II
>>
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