On the road repair in Hood River, Oregon.

Jim Hupy

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We were headed for a Cascaders Rally on Wednesday when we had a water pump
failure on the road. No spare aboard for a 403, so, called a tow. Guzman
brothers brought the correct wrecker the first time. 2 hour + wait. $360.00 tow
to their yard. They let us spend the night free. Called O'Reilly auto parts
in Hood River, not in stock, but there by 9:30 this morning. Short cab ride
got the pump in my hands. But, I didn't have the right tools with me.
Called, and located 1.7 miles from my location, John's Equipment Repair
4301 Barrett drive, Hood River, Or. They do Auto, Truck, Tractors, Power
Tools, Lawn and Garden, and air cooled engines. In at noon, out at 3:00.
Quality work, they dropped everything else to get us on the road. $310.00,
2 guys, 3 hours, out the door, down the road. Not a bad deal. No issues.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
 
Jim,
I 'm getting to leave from Newark, CA to Amana , IA Sat. AM.
I hope we will not encounter any major breakdown.
I remember when was several years younger, I could most work on the road
and also use my mind to get it done.
At 76 I make sure my coach is inspected closer and replace questionaable
parts.
We will be driving directly from Amana to Mt Hood , OR.

> We were headed for a Cascaders Rally on Wednesday when we had a water pump
> failure on the road. No spare aboard for a 403, so, called a tow. Guzman
> brothers brought the correct wrecker the first time. 2 hour + wait.
> $360.00 tow
> to their yard. They let us spend the night free. Called O'Reilly auto parts
> in Hood River, not in stock, but there by 9:30 this morning. Short cab ride
> got the pump in my hands. But, I didn't have the right tools with me.
> Called, and located 1.7 miles from my location, John's Equipment Repair
> 4301 Barrett drive, Hood River, Or. They do Auto, Truck, Tractors, Power
> Tools, Lawn and Garden, and air cooled engines. In at noon, out at 3:00.
> Quality work, they dropped everything else to get us on the road. $310.00,
> 2 guys, 3 hours, out the door, down the road. Not a bad deal. No issues.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
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Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
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I am with Jim on the value of inspection of your coach often. We do 7 to 9=
thousand miles a year with our coach. Every fall after the last GMCGL Oct=
ober rally and before the round trip to Tucson the coach goes up on stands =
and I do a very detailed inspection of the engine/transmission/front axles =
and brakes including master cylinder. I flush the brake fluid every 2 year=
s. I check and grease all the zerks in the front steering including the fr=
ont bearing zerks. On the rear I check the units for leakage and every 2 y=
ears the hubs come off and the bearings are check. I check all the subsyst=
ems, potable water including the water heater, black water system, grey wat=
er system and the macerator for leaks and functionality. I walk around at=
and slide under the coach and check for loose stuff and possible leaks. I=
t is a touchy feely things for everything. Since 1998 I have been on the h=
ook only once and that was a torque converter/transmission failure out 20 m=
iles from home. I cannot impress the need to look and inspect and replace =
items on your coach. I have seen many coaches that have received little or=
no maintenance by there owners that aways seem to break down and end up be=
ing towed home or to repair shops. It is much better to find and fix at ho=
me than on the road. J.R. Wright GMC Great Laker MHC GMCGL Tech Ed=
itor GMC Eastern States Charter Member GMCMI 78 GMC Buskirk 30=
=E2=80=99 Stretch 75 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction) Michigan =
> On Sep 14, 2018, at 12:16 AM, Jim Kanomata wrote:=
> > Jim, > I 'm getting to leave from Newark, CA to Amana , IA Sat.=
AM. > I hope we will not encounter any major breakdown. > I remember w=
hen was several years younger, I could most work on the road > and also u=
se my mind to get it done. > At 76 I make sure my coach is inspected clos=
er and replace questionaable > parts. > We will be driving directly fro=
m Amana to Mt Hood , OR. > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 7:22 PM James Hup=
y wrote: > >> We were headed for a Cascaders Ra=
lly on Wednesday when we had a water pump >> failure on the road. No spar=
e aboard for a 403, so, called a tow. Guzman >> brothers brought the corr=
ect wrecker the first time. 2 hour + wait. >> $360.00 tow >> to their y=
ard. They let us spend the night free. Called O'Reilly auto parts >> in H=
ood River, not in stock, but there by 9:30 this morning. Short cab ride >=
> got the pump in my hands. But, I didn't have the right tools with me. >=
> Called, and located 1.7 miles from my location, John's Equipment Repair=
>> 4301 Barrett drive, Hood River, Or. They do Auto, Truck, Tractors, P=
ower >> Tools, Lawn and Garden, and air cooled engines. In at noon, out a=
t 3:00. >> Quality work, they dropped everything else to get us on the ro=
ad. $310.00, >> 2 guys, 3 hours, out the door, down the road. Not a bad d=
eal. No issues. >> Jim Hupy >> Salem, Or >> _________________________=
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Jim H,
Seems like the big 3 items(water pump, alternator, and starter) are always failing on our motorhomes. The only common denomator it that they are all
cheep rebuilt components.......
Seems to me that the best option would be to buy cores of all 3 items and have them rebuilt by a reputable American or Canadian shop. I'm sure the
cost would be double or triple of the autozone rebuilt, but it would still be cheaper than a tow or two....

Jim K,
Is this something your shop could put together? I'm sure the Bay Area has plenty of old school rebuilders..

Scott.
--
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera
installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
 
> Jim H,
> Seems like the big 3 items(water pump, alternator, and starter) are always failing on our motorhomes. The only common denomator it that they are
> all cheep rebuilt components.......
> Seems to me that the best option would be to buy cores of all 3 items and have them rebuilt by a reputable American or Canadian shop. I'm sure the
> cost would be double or triple of the autozone rebuilt, but it would still be cheaper than a tow or two....
>
> Jim K,
> Is this something your shop could put together? I'm sure the Bay Area has plenty of old school rebuilders..
>
> Scott.

Always had those parts on my coach plus more then a dozen other necessary parts and the tools to replace them. When I leave home I am usually in the
middle of no place for a fair amount of time.over the many years of travel those spare parts saved the bacon a few times.
--
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
 
Pretty sure Jim has those parts readily available.

I have recently found that a quality Waterpump was a little more difficult to source then I would expect. I know Jim carries good waterpumps.
Waterpumps usually don't like to sit, and unfortunately most of us can't afford the gas to be using the GMC as a daily driver. Same really goes for
alternator and starter. quality rebuilds are pretty easy to come by too. I know I can drop off something in town and have it complete by lunch
where I live on starters and alternators, including the onan starter. I would like to get ahold of a good starter to carry as a spare, because that
can really slow you down. an alternator in my mind is no biggy, because you can usually work around that.

Jimk - I will be seeing you in amana. but keep in mind if you are taking I-94 west to Mt. Hood, I am just off the freeway in St. Cloud. Same goes
to anybody else traveling around, I have power and water at the house.

--
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
 
Actually, let me place this warning out here. It is the result of a personal experience that ended well directly as a result of the effort and
generosity of a Black lister.

In the case that you do not know this, our starters are a Delco 10MT. GM has used these as a standard for decades. BUT, Most (nearly all) bolt to the
block. Ours has a unique nose casting (that is only used with the Hydramatic 425 transmission. That transmission has been out of production for a
little less than 40 years.

Our starter quit.
We were at a music festival in Evart MI. We were about 3 hours from home. Mary had to be at work Monday mid-day.
The tap it worked once, but not enough. I took it down there on the grass. When I got it open, it was clearly not recoverable.

Do you know what Evart is near? ..NOTHING..
This was Sunday afternoon. The local parts store was closed. I started calling in ever expanding circles and got the same response. "Don't have,
but we can have one Monday."
I live not far from a NAPA warehouse. The thought was have son-in-law grab one and bring it to me. Good plan, but they would not have one for three
days....
This is when I started working the Black's list. Don Hart had one on a parts coach and drove about a hundred miles to bring it to me. He stayed
until the coach started.

This is why I carry an operational starter as a spare.

Rebuilding a starter requires no special tools. I did a write up on it if you care. The required parts are about 20$ on Ebay.

Matt
--
Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
 
Matt,

I believe everything in the starter is the same except for the nose cone.
So, if you could find a RWD starter and change the nose cone,
you'd be good to go. Actually, on my Cadillac, since it uses a RH starter
for RWD applications, I almost think I could bolt a RWD starter
to the block and go. Hmmmmm.... I may have to check that out.

Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Matt Colie"
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 1:05 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] On the road repair in Hood River, Oregon.

> Actually, let me place this warning out here. It is the result of a
> personal experience that ended well directly as a result of the effort and
> generosity of a Black lister.
>
> In the case that you do not know this, our starters are a Delco 10MT. GM
> has used these as a standard for decades. BUT, Most (nearly all) bolt to
> the
> block. Ours has a unique nose casting (that is only used with the
> Hydramatic 425 transmission. That transmission has been out of production
> for a
> little less than 40 years.
>
> Our starter quit.
> We were at a music festival in Evart MI. We were about 3 hours from home.
> Mary had to be at work Monday mid-day.
> The tap it worked once, but not enough. I took it down there on the
> grass. When I got it open, it was clearly not recoverable.
>
> Do you know what Evart is near? ..NOTHING..
> This was Sunday afternoon. The local parts store was closed. I started
> calling in ever expanding circles and got the same response. "Don't have,
> but we can have one Monday."
> I live not far from a NAPA warehouse. The thought was have son-in-law
> grab one and bring it to me. Good plan, but they would not have one for
> three
> days....
> This is when I started working the Black's list. Don Hart had one on a
> parts coach and drove about a hundred miles to bring it to me. He stayed
> until the coach started.
>
> This is why I carry an operational starter as a spare.
>
> Rebuilding a starter requires no special tools. I did a write up on it if
> you care. The required parts are about 20$ on Ebay.
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>
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If we did get a local shop to do it, I'm sure it will not be price
competitive. Get enough people running us down for pricing.
At 76 I do not need to take that crap from those that does not hold a
degree in Bus. Adm and Marketing telling me i dont know crap.
I know All the venders feel the same about these smart ass people.

> Matt,
>
> I believe everything in the starter is the same except for the nose cone.
> So, if you could find a RWD starter and change the nose cone,
> you'd be good to go. Actually, on my Cadillac, since it uses a RH starter
> for RWD applications, I almost think I could bolt a RWD starter
> to the block and go. Hmmmmm.... I may have to check that out.
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Matt Colie"
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 1:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] On the road repair in Hood River, Oregon.
>
> > Actually, let me place this warning out here. It is the result of a
> > personal experience that ended well directly as a result of the effort
> and
> > generosity of a Black lister.
> >
> > In the case that you do not know this, our starters are a Delco 10MT.
> GM
> > has used these as a standard for decades. BUT, Most (nearly all) bolt to
> > the
> > block. Ours has a unique nose casting (that is only used with the
> > Hydramatic 425 transmission. That transmission has been out of
> production
> > for a
> > little less than 40 years.
> >
> > Our starter quit.
> > We were at a music festival in Evart MI. We were about 3 hours from
> home.
> > Mary had to be at work Monday mid-day.
> > The tap it worked once, but not enough. I took it down there on the
> > grass. When I got it open, it was clearly not recoverable.
> >
> > Do you know what Evart is near? ..NOTHING..
> > This was Sunday afternoon. The local parts store was closed. I started
> > calling in ever expanding circles and got the same response. "Don't
> have,
> > but we can have one Monday."
> > I live not far from a NAPA warehouse. The thought was have son-in-law
> > grab one and bring it to me. Good plan, but they would not have one for
> > three
> > days....
> > This is when I started working the Black's list. Don Hart had one on a
> > parts coach and drove about a hundred miles to bring it to me. He stayed
> > until the coach started.
> >
> > This is why I carry an operational starter as a spare.
> >
> > Rebuilding a starter requires no special tools. I did a write up on it
> if
> > you care. The required parts are about 20$ on Ebay.
> >
> > Matt
> > --
> > Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> > Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
> > OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> > SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
> >
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Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
 
Now that's the old Jim K I've come to know!! Telling it how it is!!

Since I don't have any cores, and they are specific to our GMC's,I would think who ever has cores, and is in the know for who to use on the rebuilding
could sell them here on the GMC interweb.
I would buy one of each.. and I'm sure outhers would as well.

Scott.
--
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera
installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
 
Does anyone REALLY want a well rebuilt starter? I've got several cores --
don't know off-hand how many. And a local one-man shop rebuilder, with 50+
years of experience, who's always had very reasonable prices. It's too
late for Amana, but I could bring several to GMCMI Tallahassee next March
-- IF there's interest.

Ken H.

> Now that's the old Jim K I've come to know!! Telling it how it is!!
>
> Since I don't have any cores, and they are specific to our GMC's,I would
> think who ever has cores, and is in the know for who to use on the
> rebuilding
> could sell them here on the GMC interweb.
> I would buy one of each.. and I'm sure outhers would as well.
>
>
 
Ken, I’ll take one of the cores. I’ll get it from you next spring in Tallahassee. You can tell me the cost at that time.
Thanks.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

>
> Does anyone REALLY want a well rebuilt starter? I've got several cores --
> don't know off-hand how many. And a local one-man shop rebuilder, with 50+
> years of experience, who's always had very reasonable prices. It's too
> late for Amana, but I could bring several to GMCMI Tallahassee next March
> -- IF there's interest.
>
> Ken H.
>

>>
>> Now that's the old Jim K I've come to know!! Telling it how it is!!
>>
>> Since I don't have any cores, and they are specific to our GMC's,I would
>> think who ever has cores, and is in the know for who to use on the
>> rebuilding
>> could sell them here on the GMC interweb.
>> I would buy one of each.. and I'm sure outhers would as well.
>>
>>
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Ditto what Ken said. I have at least 8 or more.

bdub

Scott, I'll bring ya one to our Mathis rally.

> Does anyone REALLY want a well rebuilt starter? I've got several cores --
> don't know off-hand how many. And a local one-man shop rebuilder, with 50+
> years of experience, who's always had very reasonable prices. It's too
> late for Amana, but I could bring several to GMCMI Tallahassee next March
> -- IF there's interest.
>
> Ken H.
>

>
> > Now that's the old Jim K I've come to know!! Telling it how it is!!
> >
> > Since I don't have any cores, and they are specific to our GMC's,I would
> > think who ever has cores, and is in the know for who to use on the
> > rebuilding
> > could sell them here on the GMC interweb.
> > I would buy one of each.. and I'm sure outhers would as well.
>
>
 
Ken H.:
Sign me up also for a rebuilt starter - can pay you for it & pick it up in Tallahasee!
Thanks!
Mike Kelley/The Corvair a holic

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>
> Ditto what Ken said. I have at least 8 or more.
>
> bdub
>
> Scott, I'll bring ya one to our Mathis rally.
>
>

>>
>> Does anyone REALLY want a well rebuilt starter? I've got several cores --
>> don't know off-hand how many. And a local one-man shop rebuilder, with 50+
>> years of experience, who's always had very reasonable prices. It's too
>> late for Amana, but I could bring several to GMCMI Tallahassee next March
>> -- IF there's interest.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>

>>>
>>> Now that's the old Jim K I've come to know!! Telling it how it is!!
>>>
>>> Since I don't have any cores, and they are specific to our GMC's,I would
>>> think who ever has cores, and is in the know for who to use on the
>>> rebuilding
>>> could sell them here on the GMC interweb.
>>> I would buy one of each.. and I'm sure outhers would as well.
>>
>>
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I've never rebuilt a starter or alternator. It would be a great presentation at a tech session. I would love to learn how to rebuild one, and with
someone babysitting me while rebuilding one, what could possibly go wrong!
Scott.
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1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera
installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
 
Mike, I could bring you one to Mathis as well.

bdub

> Ken H.:
> Sign me up also for a rebuilt starter - can pay you for it & pick it up in
> Tallahasee!
>
>

> >
> > Ditto what Ken said. I have at least 8 or more.
> >
> > bdub
> >
> > Scott, I'll bring ya one to our Mathis rally.
>
>
 
Sorry - We will still be in IL. in Oct. - will hit Tx. 1st or 2nd of Nov.
Thanks for the offer though!
Mike/The Corvair a holic

Sent from my iPhone

>
> Mike, I could bring you one to Mathis as well.
>
> bdub
>
>

>>
>> Ken H.:
>> Sign me up also for a rebuilt starter - can pay you for it & pick it up in
>> Tallahasee!
>>
>>

>>>
>>> Ditto what Ken said. I have at least 8 or more.
>>>
>>> bdub
>>>
>>> Scott, I'll bring ya one to our Mathis rally.
>>
>>
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Then Durant, OK in January.
Good grief

Sorry - We will still be in IL. in Oct. - will hit Tx. 1st or 2nd of Nov.
Thanks for the offer though!
Mike/The Corvair a holic

Sent from my iPhone

>
> Mike, I could bring you one to Mathis as well.
>
> bdub
>
>

>>
>> Ken H.:
>> Sign me up also for a rebuilt starter - can pay you for it & pick it up
in
>> Tallahasee!
>>
>>

>>>
>>> Ditto what Ken said. I have at least 8 or more.
>>>
>>> bdub
>>>
>>> Scott, I'll bring ya one to our Mathis rally.
>>
>>
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Billy,

Yes, you take one to Mike -- Somewhere -- mine are all spoken for already.
I didn't have as many as I thought -- they were in a pile mixed with a
bunch of A-6 compressors. :-(

I'll check with my local rebuild for more suitable starters -- he's got,
literally, piles of starters.

Emery, the one I'm bringing to Amana for you has already been rebuilt.

Ken H.

> Mike, I could bring you one to Mathis as well.
>
> bdub
>
>

>
> > Ken H.:
> > Sign me up also for a rebuilt starter - can pay you for it & pick it up
> in
> > Tallahasee!
> >
> >
> > > On Sep 15, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Billy Massey

> > >
> > > Ditto what Ken said. I have at least 8 or more.
> > >
> > > bdub
> > >
> > > Scott, I'll bring ya one to our Mathis rally.
> >
> >
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