Oil Filters - WTF??

[blur911sc]

> > > Always start with the current ACDelco number and cross from there. The big block and 77 small block take a PF24 This supersedes the AC
> > > PF30 which was same but no anti drain back ). The PF24 comes over from Buick where the filter was horizontal and had to have anti drain back.
> > > This broader use of PF24 is for the simplification of SKUs The Wix cross over would be the 51258 which has anti drainback but no integral
> > > bypass. That’s good.
> > > The 78 small block uses the Smaller PF58 used on other small block Olds like 307, the Caddy Northstar and others. Wix is 51045. This
> > > number info is from GMCMI interchange.
> > > If you go to wixfilters you can cross reference and see all the specs. Burst strength, microns, flow, and if it has anti drain back, or if
> > > it has integral bypass. Get it first hand and current.
> >
> > This is one of the odd differences between USA and Canada, I couldn't tell you where I could go and buy a Wix filter in this city.
> > I have never seen one on a shelf at any of the auto parts store I frequent. According to the Wix website, the nearest dealer is about 130km
> > away.
>
> Do you have NAPA auto parts? Not sure, but I have heard that the Napa Gold oil filter is made by Wix. Maybe someone out there can confirm. If
> so, do you have Napa?

Yup, as John confirmed below, Napa gold is Wix. So my Napa 21258 on the engine is actually a Wix and easy to get. Thanks guys.

I'm running into a similar thing trying to change the top on my Miata, the 3M adhesive I need seems to have changed a digit in Canada (08011 vs
80119). Have to confirm if it's the same stuff with them tomorrow.
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Burl Vibert
Kingston, Ontario
1976 GMC 26 foot, Sheridan reno, don't know original model

 

[dave king]

There's an independent auto parts store about 2 miles from my house that seems to have NO problem getting
WIX filters for me with next day availability. I use them to get me filters for my DODGE Grand Caravan and
for my GMC YUKON XL when I still had it. Based on the part numbers in the oil filter thread I believe I have a
couple of versions of WIX Filters for GMC MHs. I have these in case anyone with a GMC MH is passing through
Toronto and is desperate for an oil filter. Oil would be easy to get 7 days week.
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DAVE KING
lurker, wannabe
Toronto, Ontario, Canada

 

[Russell]

Larry,

I use the WIX 51049 on my 403.

Russell
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Russell Keith,
1978 E2 "Harry" 403 (still carbureted), Danny Dunn Tranny, Thorley, Stock Brakes w/Remote Vacuum Brake Booster, Quad Bags, Dakota Digital Dash, 6.5 kW
Onan, Dunedin, Florida

 

[CGeils]

OE filter was ACDelco PF30. This is superceded by PF61. Yes it’s narrower than the 24 or 30 but is the filter GM recommends. I’ve been using
them for 7 years.
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Chris Geils - Twin Cities / W Wa
1978 26' Kingsley w/ very few mods; PD9040, aux trans cooler, one repaint in stock colors, R134a, Al rad, Alcoas, 54k mi

 

[skip hartline]

I tried the 51049 and I believe it is real close to the bolt flanges on the right axle, you can get it on, but it's scary close and it doesn't have
anti-drain back valving.
Just my 2 cents worth, I've tried several different filters but always come back to the 51258 just to easy to walk into NAPA and get.
Skip Hartline
--
74 Canyon Lands, FiTech,
3.7 FD, Manny Tranny,
Springfield Distributor,
2001 Chevy Tracker Ragtop Towd

 

[powwerjon]

Have used the Wix 51049 oil filter for 20 years without issue, does not interfere!

J.R. Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMCGL Tech Editor
GMC Eastern States Charter Member
GMCMI
78 GMC Buskirk 29.5’ Stretch
75 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan

>
> I tried the 51049 and I believe it is real close to the bolt flanges on the right axle, you can get it on, but it's scary close and it doesn't have
> anti-drain back valving.
> Just my 2 cents worth, I've tried several different filters but always come back to the 51258 just to easy to walk into NAPA and get.
> Skip Hartline
> --
> 74 Canyon Lands, FiTech,
> 3.7 FD, Manny Tranny,
> Springfield Distributor,
> 2001 Chevy Tracker Ragtop Towd
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[jim kanomata1]

It is always best to use the filter with maximum media area as that gives
least amount of flow resistance and more area for particulates to land on.
I agree it is closer to a rotating part, but that is where we go by the
risk statistics and most of us do.

> Have used the Wix 51049 oil filter for 20 years without issue, does not
> interfere!
>
> J.R. Wright
> GMC Great Laker MHC
> GMCGL Tech Editor
> GMC Eastern States Charter Member
> GMCMI
> 78 GMC Buskirk 29.5’ Stretch
> 75 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
> Michigan
>
>
> > On Jun 23, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Skip Hartline

> >
> > I tried the 51049 and I believe it is real close to the bolt flanges on
> the right axle, you can get it on, but it's scary close and it doesn't have
> > anti-drain back valving.
> > Just my 2 cents worth, I've tried several different filters but always
> come back to the 51258 just to easy to walk into NAPA and get.
> > Skip Hartline
> > --
> > 74 Canyon Lands, FiTech,
> > 3.7 FD, Manny Tranny,
> > Springfield Distributor,
> > 2001 Chevy Tracker Ragtop Towd
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[blur911sc]

> It is always best to use the filter with maximum media area as that gives
> least amount of flow resistance and more area for particulates to land on.
> I agree it is closer to a rotating part, but that is where we go by the
> risk statistics and most of us do.

This is where I wonder if those Bosch filters I got are good or not, they are heavy, like they have a lot of media in the can, but the can is smaller.
Might cut one apart to see, they were cheap and I have two.

Also, not GMC, but on the subject, I have a H6 Subaru that takes a fairly small filter, the update was to install an even smaller one as it seems the
original was too long and close to the exhaust and was picking up heat causing oil temps to rise.

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Burl Vibert
Kingston, Ontario
1976 GMC 26 foot, Sheridan reno, don't know original model

 

[lw8000]

I can confirm the Wix 51258 DOES fit the 403. Been using that one for 8 years, no problems at all with it.
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Chris S. -
77 Kingsley, 3.70 FD, mostly OEM -
S.E. Michigan