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claude brousson

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I am wondering how many might be going to the GMC Western States Roundup
in April 24-29. If there are a number planning to go and if one person
could get them in time before leaving home, it would save Alan alot of
trouble in the shipping. We will be there, however we will be away from
home from the beginning of April. I f there was an interst in this I
would be interested in such an arrangement.
One other thing- Are these sensors generic as to electrical sensitivity
so they will work for any dash gauge? In other words is there any
question of matching them to any particular gauge?

Alan I will give you all the details you need as soon as I sort out what
i want.

Claude
 
I would be happy to get my o2 sensor at ukaih.
al

> I am wondering how many might be going to the GMC Western States Roundup
> in April 24-29. If there are a number planning to go and if one person
> could get them in time before leaving home, it would save Alan alot of
> trouble in the shipping. We will be there, however we will be away from
> home from the beginning of April. I f there was an interst in this I
> would be interested in such an arrangement.
> One other thing- Are these sensors generic as to electrical sensitivity
> so they will work for any dash gauge? In other words is there any
> question of matching them to any particular gauge?
>
> Alan I will give you all the details you need as soon as I sort out what
> i want.
>
> Claude
 
I have had a couple of e-mails from people showing concern about the group buy
of O2 sensors. Unfortunatley my Job and School keep getting in the way of
really important things like taking care of my friends on the Net. I was
actually able to spend some time on the package and shipping project this
afternoon. Hang in there they are comming. Please no more requests till I take
care of the orders I have for now. Ken Henderson I will try to get yours out
first, they will go to the new address.

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Those of you with weak hearts please sit down.
I have actually shipped some O2 sensors. I sometimes
wonder about myself, what day of the year did I finally
get around to shipping sensors from the post office? April 15
Yes tax day, well it used to be and most people do not know
that they have till Tuesday, what a mob.
I will be posting a list later today of the people that I have
orders from but no shippable address. If you ordered but do not
see your name on this list, I have your parts but no address.
The following people have had sensors shipped to them.

Jim wagner
Gary Berry
Chuck Blanford
Dick Roberts
Dave Meekhof
Al Chernoff
Eugene Fisher
Nate Chase
Pete Papas
JR Slaten
George M.(Marion) Hope, Ph.D.
Billy Massey
Claude Brousson
Vic Marks
Gene Cupples
hermann beeck
John R. Wright
Daniel L. Winchester
Sam Carson
Hugh Fellows
DAC, 78 Royale RB
Emery Stora

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I forgot to mention there is a sheet of
paper in each shipment with my address and
the cost of the sensors. I rounded the shipping
cost up to the nearest dollar, I did not think
anyone would mind providing me a bit for my time.
Does anyone have Dave Greenburgh's address (GMC
Registry) I need it. One person on the list sent me an
updated address and I lost it so it went to the old
address, sorry, e-mail me if you want I can re-ship to
the new address.

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Here is the list of folks that I do not have an address for
Ken Henderson, I just found your address, I think you were the
address change I mentioned in the last post, so I did not goof I hope.
If you are on this list and still want your O2 sensors.

please e-mail your address to me
alanbredbury

Lanier 2 one wire
Ken Henderson 1 one wire 2 three wire
Bob McCarthy 2 one wire
Richard D Smith 2 one wire
Dave Mumert 1 one wire 1 three wire
Steve Clevenger 1 three wire
Dave 4 three wire
Steve Clevenger 1 three wire

Thank you.

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This is what I have for Dave and Jan:
David and Jan Greenberg
1220 US Hwy 1, Ste B
Delray Beach
North Palm Beach, FL 33408

hope it helps.
al

> I forgot to mention there is a sheet of
> paper in each shipment with my address and
> the cost of the sensors. I rounded the shipping
> cost up to the nearest dollar, I did not think
> anyone would mind providing me a bit for my time.
> Does anyone have Dave Greenburgh's address (GMC
> Registry) I need it. One person on the list sent me an
> updated address and I lost it so it went to the old
> address, sorry, e-mail me if you want I can re-ship to
> the new address.
>
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> My address is:
>
> Bob McCarthy
> 2686 Pine Ridge Drive
> Lillian, AL 36549
> 334-961-3437
>
> Thanks, Bob

Bob

How far are you from Ft. Payne, Al? Sorry I don't have my map out. I
plan to be there for a week the middle of May, for a Boy Scout National
Camping School.


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On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 08:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Alan Bredbury

> Does anyone have Dave Greenburgh's address (GMC
> Registry) I need it. One person on the list sent me an
> updated address and I lost it so it went to the old
> address, sorry, e-mail me if you want I can re-ship to
> the new address.
>
How about..........?
Dave Greenberg
200 Macfarlane Dr
Delray Beach, FL 33483-6829

David Lee Greenberg
GMC Motorhome Registry
200 MacFarlane Drive
Delray Beach, FL 33483-6829
http://www.gmcss.com/registry.htm
 
>
>
> This is what I have for Dave and Jan:
This is my office address and where (according to Jan) I seem to spend
most of my time.....Boston Homes Inc. is the name of the firm.

> 1220 US Hwy 1, Ste B
> Delray Beach
> North Palm Beach, FL 33408
>
> hope it helps.
> al
>

>
> > I forgot to mention there is a sheet of
> > paper in each shipment with my address and
> > the cost of the sensors. I rounded the shipping
> > cost up to the nearest dollar, I did not think
> > anyone would mind providing me a bit for my time.
> > Does anyone have Dave Greenburgh's address (GMC
> > Registry) I need it. One person on the list sent me an
> > updated address and I lost it so it went to the old
> > address, sorry, e-mail me if you want I can re-ship to
> > the new address.
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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>

David Lee Greenberg
GMC Motorhome Registry
200 MacFarlane Drive
Delray Beach, FL 33483-6829
http://www.gmcss.com/registry.htm
 
Arch, Oxygen sensors were designed to help control
(emphasis on control) the air fuel mixture. The reason they
started using them was to maintain the air fuel mixture at
the correct level so the Catalytic converter would operate
correctly. The early Carbureted units had an electric
solenoid that (about 60 HZ or about once a second) changed
the mixture based on the air fuel mixture based on the
oxygen sensor signal. Needless to say as the oxygen sensor
senses the mixture after it happens it is always a bit
late, oh well its the best that we had. Current fuel
injection systems do a bit better as today they monitor the
mass and volume of the air entering the engine as well as
controlling the amount of fuel entering the mixture. Bottom
line here is you are monitoring a stock carb system with a
rich lean switch (Oxygen sensor, the graphed output, from
rich to lean and back, kinda looks like a steep bell curve
in other words it has a non-linear output). Under the
circumstances (stock carb, no computer) rich under
acceleration is normal. Lean on the highway is not
necessarily bad, cause it could be just barely lean (real
lean can burn valves) but I suggest that you read the
plugs. A local auto parts store may have a plug reading
chart or better yet find a circle track racer, those guys
have it down to an art. Hope this helps.

>Well seems like more people are trying 02 sensors. I have
a question. I
>have the MSD system which uses 2 lights. Green means rich
and red means
>lean. If both lights are on then it is just right. My
problem is that I
>have good idle--both lights one. Step on it I go
rich---back off the slightest
>bit and I go rich. Just running on flat highway at
cruising speed--60 MPH I >run lean. The real problem is I
dont know how lean. Could any of you with 02
>sensors tell me what is normal? Carb has been rebuilt.
When I ordered
>the cam from Mondello they told me not to rejet with this
cam so I did
>not. I would like to hear any ideas. TIA

>Take Care
>Arch

- ----------
>>In a message dated 04/26/2000 12:38:55 PM Central
Daylight Time,

>> Received your sensors, thank you very much, they are
EXACTLY what I
>> ordered.I have a little error though. I ordered 3 wire,
when I really
>>intended to order 4 wire :-) Would it be imposing on you
to mabey send me >>four 4 wire

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Alan Bredbury
Clinton, Ct.
1974 GMC 26' Classic Motorhome
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(about 60 HZ or about once a second) I think you meant 60 times a second.

>From: Alan Bredbury
>Subject: Re: GMC: O2 sensors

>Arch, Oxygen sensors were designed to help control
>(emphasis on control) the air fuel mixture. The reason they
>started using them was to maintain the air fuel mixture at
>the correct level so the Catalytic converter would operate
>correctly. The early Carbureted units had an electric
>solenoid that (about 60 HZ or about once a second) changed
>the mixture based on the air fuel mixture based on the
>oxygen sensor signal. Needless to say as the oxygen sensor
>senses the mixture after it happens it is always a bit
>late, oh well its the best that we had. Current fuel
>injection systems do a bit better as today they monitor the
>mass and volume of the air entering the engine as well as
>controlling the amount of fuel entering the mixture. Bottom
>line here is you are monitoring a stock carb system with a
>rich lean switch (Oxygen sensor, the graphed output, from
>rich to lean and back, kinda looks like a steep bell curve
>in other words it has a non-linear output). Under the
>circumstances (stock carb, no computer) rich under
>acceleration is normal. Lean on the highway is not
>necessarily bad, cause it could be just barely lean (real
>lean can burn valves) but I suggest that you read the
>plugs. A local auto parts store may have a plug reading
>chart or better yet find a circle track racer, those guys
>have it down to an art. Hope this helps.

>Well seems like more people are trying 02 sensors. I have
>a question. I
>have the MSD system which uses 2 lights. Green means rich
>and red means
>lean. If both lights are on then it is just right. My
>problem is that I
>have good idle--both lights one. Step on it I go
>rich---back off the slightest
>bit and I go rich. Just running on flat highway at
>cruising speed--60 MPH I >run lean. The real problem is I
>dont know how lean. Could any of you with 02
>sensors tell me what is normal? Carb has been rebuilt.
>When I ordered
>the cam from Mondello they told me not to rejet with this
>cam so I did
>not. I would like to hear any ideas. TIA

>Take Care
>Arch
 
Actually I meant once a second I always get confused with
those HZ MHZ KHZ thingys so I guess I meant 1 HZ.

Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 09:01:19 -0500
From: "Magnuson, Mike"
Subject: Re: GMC: O2 sensors

(about 60 HZ or about once a second) I think you meant 60
times a
second.

>From: Alan Bredbury
>Subject: Re: GMC: O2 sensors

>Arch, Oxygen sensors were designed to help control
>(emphasis on control) the air fuel mixture. The reason
they
>started using them was to maintain the air fuel mixture at
>the correct level so the Catalytic converter would operate
>correctly. The early Carbureted units had an electric
>solenoid that (about 60 HZ or about once a second) changed
>the mixture based on the air fuel mixture based on the
>oxygen sensor signal. Needless to say as the oxygen sensor
>senses the mixture after it happens it is always a bit
>late, oh well its the best that we had. Current fuel
>injection systems do a bit better as today they monitor
the
>mass and volume of the air entering the engine as well as
>controlling the amount of fuel entering the mixture.
Bottom
>line here is you are monitoring a stock carb system with a
>rich lean switch (Oxygen sensor, the graphed output, from
>rich to lean and back, kinda looks like a steep bell curve
>in other words it has a non-linear output). Under the
>circumstances (stock carb, no computer) rich under
>acceleration is normal. Lean on the highway is not
>necessarily bad, cause it could be just barely lean (real
>lean can burn valves) but I suggest that you read the
>plugs. A local auto parts store may have a plug reading
>chart or better yet find a circle track racer, those guys
>have it down to an art. Hope this helps.

=====
Alan Bredbury
Clinton, Ct.
1974 GMC 26' Classic Motorhome
http://www.finesttool.com/index.html/special.htm

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