Macerator and dumping into toilet?

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I have had a macerator ever since I got the plumbing working on my coach. I have always had access to a dump station or at least a sewer cleanout that
served as a dump station. I have never had to dump into a toilet.

But now it appears we may be staying somewhere long enough that we will need to dump, but will not have easy access to a dump station or sewer
cleanout. Our only option will be to dump into a toilet. So what do I need to know about this? How do you dump 30 gallons into a toilet that usually
flushes only a few gallons at a time? Do you shut off the water to the toilet, and hold the flush valve down or what? Also, about how many feet of
hose can a macerator generally pump though? I may need to obtain a longer hose to reach the toilet. I only have about 8 feet of hose now.
--
Paul Zerkel
'78 Eleganza II
Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
 
I routinely pump my tank to a sewer clean out when I return from a trip. I pump about 125 feet. 75 foot of that is 3/4” garden hose. 50 feet is a 5/8” garden hose.

I have dumped into toilets in the past. You do not flush it. You put the hose in the toilet and then turn on your macerator. The sewage will rise in the toilet and then it will flush itself and you just keep pumping until your tank is empty. The first time you do it you think the toilet will overflow. But it doesn’t.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

>
> I have had a macerator ever since I got the plumbing working on my coach. I have always had access to a dump station or at least a sewer cleanout that
> served as a dump station. I have never had to dump into a toilet.
>
> But now it appears we may be staying somewhere long enough that we will need to dump, but will not have easy access to a dump station or sewer
> cleanout. Our only option will be to dump into a toilet. So what do I need to know about this? How do you dump 30 gallons into a toilet that usually
> flushes only a few gallons at a time? Do you shut off the water to the toilet, and hold the flush valve down or what? Also, about how many feet of
> hose can a macerator generally pump though? I may need to obtain a longer hose to reach the toilet. I only have about 8 feet of hose now.
> --
> Paul Zerkel
> '78 Eleganza II
> Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
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Paul Z.:
A 5 gal bucket is your friend - I dump 4 gals at a time via my macerator into the bucket and carry it to the toilet and dump as a normal
flush - no need for turning toilet water off.
Good Luck
Mike/The Corvair a holic

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>
> I have had a macerator ever since I got the plumbing working on my coach. I have always had access to a dump station or at least a sewer cleanout that
> served as a dump station. I have never had to dump into a toilet.
>
> But now it appears we may be staying somewhere long enough that we will need to dump, but will not have easy access to a dump station or sewer
> cleanout. Our only option will be to dump into a toilet. So what do I need to know about this? How do you dump 30 gallons into a toilet that usually
> flushes only a few gallons at a time? Do you shut off the water to the toilet, and hold the flush valve down or what? Also, about how many feet of
> hose can a macerator generally pump though? I may need to obtain a longer hose to reach the toilet. I only have about 8 feet of hose now.
> --
> Paul Zerkel
> '78 Eleganza II
> Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
>
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Wow- Mike. Some friend. And I thought sticking the hose in the toilet and pumping was a bit disgusting! I can’t imagine myself carrying and dumping eight or nine buckets full of s...!
You should consider just getting another length of hose to reach the toilet. Much easier and faster.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

>
> Paul Z.:
> A 5 gal bucket is your friend - I dump 4 gals at a time via my macerator into the bucket and carry it to the toilet and dump as a normal
> flush - no need for turning toilet water off.
> Good Luck
> Mike/The Corvair a holic
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>

>>
>> I have had a macerator ever since I got the plumbing working on my coach. I have always had access to a dump station or at least a sewer cleanout that
>> served as a dump station. I have never had to dump into a toilet.
>>
>> But now it appears we may be staying somewhere long enough that we will need to dump, but will not have easy access to a dump station or sewer
>> cleanout. Our only option will be to dump into a toilet. So what do I need to know about this? How do you dump 30 gallons into a toilet that usually
>> flushes only a few gallons at a time? Do you shut off the water to the toilet, and hold the flush valve down or what? Also, about how many feet of
>> hose can a macerator generally pump though? I may need to obtain a longer hose to reach the toilet. I only have about 8 feet of hose now.
>> --
>> Paul Zerkel
>> '78 Eleganza II
>> Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
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No kidding Emery. No way I’m doing that!

Sully
Coachless
Bellevue

> Wow- Mike. Some friend. And I thought sticking the hose in the toilet and
> pumping was a bit disgusting! I can’t imagine myself carrying and dumping
> eight or nine buckets full of s...!
> You should consider just getting another length of hose to reach the
> toilet. Much easier and faster.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
>

> >
> > Paul Z.:
> > A 5 gal bucket is your friend - I dump 4 gals at a time via my macerator
> into the bucket and carry it to the toilet and dump as a normal
> > flush - no need for turning toilet water off.
> > Good Luck
> > Mike/The Corvair a holic
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >

> >>
> >> I have had a macerator ever since I got the plumbing working on my
> coach. I have always had access to a dump station or at least a sewer
> cleanout that
> >> served as a dump station. I have never had to dump into a toilet.
> >>
> >> But now it appears we may be staying somewhere long enough that we will
> need to dump, but will not have easy access to a dump station or sewer
> >> cleanout. Our only option will be to dump into a toilet. So what do I
> need to know about this? How do you dump 30 gallons into a toilet that
> usually
> >> flushes only a few gallons at a time? Do you shut off the water to the
> toilet, and hold the flush valve down or what? Also, about how many feet of
> >> hose can a macerator generally pump though? I may need to obtain a
> longer hose to reach the toilet. I only have about 8 feet of hose now.
> >> --
> >> Paul Zerkel
> >> '78 Eleganza II
> >> Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
> >>
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By the way Paul, I have dumped in several different toilets and none of them overflowed. When it gets about 2/3 or 3/4 full they will flush themselves (no water leaves the tank) and your whole holding tank will pump down the toilet. You do not need to use the toilet flush handle until you are done and want to clean the toilet bowl.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

Emery

>
> No kidding Emery. No way I’m doing that!
>
> Sully
> Coachless
> Bellevue
>

>>
>> Wow- Mike. Some friend. And I thought sticking the hose in the toilet and
>> pumping was a bit disgusting! I can’t imagine myself carrying and dumping
>> eight or nine buckets full of s...!
>> You should consider just getting another length of hose to reach the
>> toilet. Much easier and faster.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick, CO
>>

>>>
>>> Paul Z.:
>>> A 5 gal bucket is your friend - I dump 4 gals at a time via my macerator
>> into the bucket and carry it to the toilet and dump as a normal
>>> flush - no need for turning toilet water off.
>>> Good Luck
>>> Mike/The Corvair a holic
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>

>>>>
>>>> I have had a macerator ever since I got the plumbing working on my
>> coach. I have always had access to a dump station or at least a sewer
>> cleanout that
>>>> served as a dump station. I have never had to dump into a toilet.
>>>>
>>>> But now it appears we may be staying somewhere long enough that we will
>> need to dump, but will not have easy access to a dump station or sewer
>>>> cleanout. Our only option will be to dump into a toilet. So what do I
>> need to know about this? How do you dump 30 gallons into a toilet that
>> usually
>>>> flushes only a few gallons at a time? Do you shut off the water to the
>> toilet, and hold the flush valve down or what? Also, about how many feet of
>>>> hose can a macerator generally pump though? I may need to obtain a
>> longer hose to reach the toilet. I only have about 8 feet of hose now.
>>>> --
>>>> Paul Zerkel
>>>> '78 Eleganza II
>>>> Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
>>>>
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I would throgh in one caveat- Dont dump black water treated with any type of antibacterial treatment into a septic system. Or at least, one you own.
--
76 Glenbrook
 
One more question about this. Does it matter whether you are going into a pressure-assist flush toilet instead of a gravity flush toilet?
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Paul Zerkel
'78 Eleganza II
Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
 
Paul,

I suspect that a pressure assisted flush toilet will be little, if any,
better for macerator use than a gravity flush. The pressure assist is
really only effective at the very beginning of the flushing action; any
purging after that is due to siphoning, just as with the gravity flush.
The macerator, with 15-30 gallons of material to pass, will be almost
totally dependent upon siphon action.

Anyone who doesn't really understand how a flush toilet works may find this
interesting (as will anyone who wants to know TOO much about toilets!):
https://www.mrrooter.com/greater-syracuse/about-us/blog/2015/november/how-do-toilets-work-/

Ken "Not a Plumber" H.

> One more question about this. Does it matter whether you are going into a
> pressure-assist flush toilet instead of a gravity flush toilet?
> --
>
>
 
On the subject of toilets, many folks have heard or read that the inventor of the modern flush toilet (using an elevated tank operated by a pull chain) was named Thomas Crapper which has led to "other" uses of the name !

We lived in Germany for several years and there is apparently a law there that each new home constructed MUST have a toilet facility that can be accessed by anybody passing by to use if needed! Our new row rented row-house in Raunheim am Main had such a facility just inside the front door. The door from that small hallway into the main house was the one that was locked. I don't know that it was ever used by anyone, but it was definitely possible that the man who made weekly beer deliveries to us COULD have used it.

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From: Gmclist on behalf of Ken Henderson
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 15:33
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Macerator and dumping into toilet?

Paul,

I suspect that a pressure assisted flush toilet will be little, if any,
better for macerator use than a gravity flush. The pressure assist is
really only effective at the very beginning of the flushing action; any
purging after that is due to siphoning, just as with the gravity flush.
The macerator, with 15-30 gallons of material to pass, will be almost
totally dependent upon siphon action.

Anyone who doesn't really understand how a flush toilet works may find this
interesting (as will anyone who wants to know TOO much about toilets!):
https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mrrooter.com%2Fgreater-syracuse%2Fabout-us%2Fblog%2F2015%2Fnovember%2Fhow-do-toilets-work-%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5fed36e72844432599d308d5c9916937%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636636548724440338&sdata=3adoWMIKdUiVZ8iAu4fog6whJ%2Fi%2Fud46Xt4hgstycnA%3D&reserved=0

Ken "Not a Plumber" H.
 
I use toilet diodrent chemicas
I feel it is rude to smell out the campers

Sent from my iPhone

>
> No kidding Emery. No way I’m doing that!
>
> Sully
> Coachless
> Bellevue
>

>>
>> Wow- Mike. Some friend. And I thought sticking the hose in the toilet and
>> pumping was a bit disgusting! I can’t imagine myself carrying and dumping
>> eight or nine buckets full of s...!
>> You should consider just getting another length of hose to reach the
>> toilet. Much easier and faster.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick, CO
>>

>>>
>>> Paul Z.:
>>> A 5 gal bucket is your friend - I dump 4 gals at a time via my macerator
>> into the bucket and carry it to the toilet and dump as a normal
>>> flush - no need for turning toilet water off.
>>> Good Luck
>>> Mike/The Corvair a holic
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>

>>>>
>>>> I have had a macerator ever since I got the plumbing working on my
>> coach. I have always had access to a dump station or at least a sewer
>> cleanout that
>>>> served as a dump station. I have never had to dump into a toilet.
>>>>
>>>> But now it appears we may be staying somewhere long enough that we will
>> need to dump, but will not have easy access to a dump station or sewer
>>>> cleanout. Our only option will be to dump into a toilet. So what do I
>> need to know about this? How do you dump 30 gallons into a toilet that
>> usually
>>>> flushes only a few gallons at a time? Do you shut off the water to the
>> toilet, and hold the flush valve down or what? Also, about how many feet of
>>>> hose can a macerator generally pump though? I may need to obtain a
>> longer hose to reach the toilet. I only have about 8 feet of hose now.
>>>> --
>>>> Paul Zerkel
>>>> '78 Eleganza II
>>>> Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
>>>>
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> By the way Paul, I have dumped in several different toilets and none of them overflowed. When it gets about 2/3 or 3/4 full they will flush
> themselves (no water leaves the tank) and your whole holding tank will pump down the toilet. You do not need to use the toilet flush handle until
> you are done and want to clean the toilet bowl.
>
> Emery

We have a washer and dryer in our garage at our cottage. The washer empties into a standpipe that goes to our septic tank. I use that now for dumping
when we are up there with the GMC. I like that better than running the dump hose through the house to the bathroom. It sure beats going to the state
park 10 miles away to dump which we did in the past.

I feel better if I have someone standing by the macerator on/off switch, ready to shut it off if needed, while I observe the pump's discharge in the
garage.
--
Richard
76 Palm Beach
SE Michigan
www.PalmBeachGMC.com


Coop Roller Cam 455, Howell TBI + EBL, 3.42 FD, Quadra Bag, Macerator, Manny Tranny etc.
 
goes to our septic tank. I use that now for dumping when we are up there with the GMC. I like that better than running the dump hose through the
house to the bathroom. It sure beats going to the state park 10 miles away to dump which we did in the past.

I feel better if I have someone standing by the macerator on/off switch, ready to shut it off if needed, while I observe the pump's discharge in the
garage. [/quote]

Thanks for the suggestion. The place where we will be at has a washer/dryer in a mudroom, that would probably be easier to access than the bathroom
window.

--
Paul Zerkel
'78 Eleganza II
Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
 
Jim K.:
You and others should try my wife Billie's "Recipe" for GMC toilets. It's easy to mix up, nice fresh smell, and works better than anything I have ever tried!
Agreed - it is rude to carry a smelly tank around for others to put up with.
Mike/The Corvair a holic

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>

> goes to our septic tank. I use that now for dumping when we are up there with the GMC. I like that better than running the dump hose through the
> house to the bathroom. It sure beats going to the state park 10 miles away to dump which we did in the past.
>
> I feel better if I have someone standing by the macerator on/off switch, ready to shut it off if needed, while I observe the pump's discharge in the
> garage. [/quote]
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. The place where we will be at has a washer/dryer in a mudroom, that would probably be easier to access than the bathroom
> window.
>
> --
> Paul Zerkel
> '78 Eleganza II
> Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
>
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K what is it?

> Jim K.:
> You and others should try my wife Billie's "Recipe" for GMC toilets. It's easy to mix up, nice fresh smell, and works better than anything I have
> ever tried!
> Agreed - it is rude to carry a smelly tank around for others to put up with.
> Mike/The Corvair a holic
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>

> >

> > that[/color
> > > goes to our septic tank. I use that now for dumping when we are up there with the GMC. I like that better than running
> > the dump hose through the[/color]
> > > house to the bathroom. It sure beats going to the state park 10 miles away to dump which we did in the past.
> > >
> > > I feel better if I have someone standing by the macerator on/off switch, ready to shut it off if needed, while I observe the pump's
> > > discharge in the
> > > garage.
>
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestion. The place where we will be at has a washer/dryer in a mudroom, that would probably be easier to access than the
> > bathroom
> > window.
> >
> > --
> > Paul Zerkel
> > '78 Eleganza II
> > Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
> >
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We stock several in our store.
We have found the ones that come in small packets to be the most desirable.
10 ea. in a pack $15.39, Your price $ 12.00 per case
Also the Same in Liquid in 6ea. 4oz bottle $ 16.00. Your price $ 12.00 per
case.
It also break down waste as well and less load on the Masssorator.

> K what is it?
>

> > Jim K.:
> > You and others should try my wife Billie's "Recipe" for GMC toilets.
> It's easy to mix up, nice fresh smell, and works better than anything I have
> > ever tried!
> > Agreed - it is rude to carry a smelly tank around for others to put up
> with.
> > Mike/The Corvair a holic
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >

> > >

> garage at our cottage. The washer empties into a standpipe
> > > that[/color
> > > > goes to our septic tank. I use that now for
> dumping when we are up there with the GMC. I like that better than running
> > > the dump hose through the[/color]
> > > > house to the bathroom. It sure beats going to the state park 10
> miles away to dump which we did in the past.
> > > >
> > > > I feel better if I have someone standing by the macerator on/off
> switch, ready to shut it off if needed, while I observe the pump's
> > > > discharge in the
> > > > garage.
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the suggestion. The place where we will be at has a
> washer/dryer in a mudroom, that would probably be easier to access than the
> > > bathroom
> > > window.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Paul Zerkel
> > > '78 Eleganza II
> > > Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
> > >
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> Jim K.:
> You and others should try my wife Billie's "Recipe" for GMC toilets. It's easy to mix up, nice fresh smell, and works better than anything I have
> ever tried!
> Agreed - it is rude to carry a smelly tank around for others to put up with.
> Mike/The Corvair a holic

We have very good results using RidEx. Add about an ounce to the black tank after each pump out.

--
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
 
That (Rid-X) is the ONLY thing I've used in my holding tanks for many
years, and that only rarely. Never have an odor problem. And NEVER allow
any bacteria-killing substance into the tanks.

Ken H.

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 10:06 PM Steve Southworth
wrote:

> > Jim K.:
> > You and others should try my wife Billie's "Recipe" for GMC toilets.
> It's easy to mix up, nice fresh smell, and works better than anything I have
> > ever tried!
> > Agreed - it is rude to carry a smelly tank around for others to put up
> with.
> > Mike/The Corvair a holic
>
>
> We have very good results using RidEx. Add about an ounce to the black
> tank after each pump out.
>
> --
> Steve Southworth
> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
> Palmyra WI
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