Jim Bounds Sliding driver windows

grant schaffer

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Does anyone know where we can find the larger driver and passenger windows? To get fresh air in the coach the wind wings are extremely poor in
function and I can not find anything on the net. it seems we are loosing viable products for our coaches.
thanks
Grant
--
1974 GMC Sequoia 26'
 
Jim Bounds did post that they are no longer being made. there was not enough demand for his vender to continue. So you would have to find a coach
that had them installed, or maybe someone bought a set and never installed them.

for air, I like my wind wings, they push in a ton of air. However the wind wings are are loud, and when it is 90+ degrees out they are loud and
hot. I am getting my A/C sorted out, so I can hear the stereo.

the wind wings just take the right position, and the slider in the right side and they blow air in like a leaf blower..

--
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
 
Grant,

I have no personal experience with the new Airstream style cockpit windows, but I do like the idea of a full height operable slider. It really bugs
me to have to lean down to talk through that little toll window. But I'm not sure that the taller slider would equate to greatly improved airflow.
When my OEM toll window is fully open it sucks out more air than it let's in. That's because of the Venturi effect of the airflow wrapping around our
big glorious curved windshields. I would think that the new taller windows wouldn't appreciably change the amount of air coming in. I hope someone
with the new windows will chime in and either confirm or debunk my suspicions.

If you aren't happy with the wind wing airflow, it's possibly because of how you're adjusting the wind wings and sliding window. Do you have the
trailing edge of the wind wing close to the outside of the glass and the glass slid up to that trailing edge? I keep the wind wing about 3/8" away
from the glass to let bugs scoot by and stay outside (this change occurred after discovering a 2" hornet on my shorts). The leading edge of the
slider shouldn't be further back than the trailing edge of the wind wing, and I slide the slider further forward from there to direct the airflow
where I want it.

I wouldn't have a GMC without wind wings, and the lack of wind wings and screens for the Airstream style windows is a deal breaker for me.

JimK at Applied sells two types.
https://www.gmcrvparts.com/searchresults.asp?Search=Wind+wings

Ragusa manufactures and sells the wind wings as their part number RV-24
http://www.ragusarv.com/

Richard

--
'77 Birchaven TZE...777;
'76 Palm Beach with 18,477 verified miles;
‘76 Edgemonte
 
We partners with Jim Bounds on the windows .
Do you ever go to our web site?
Might learn something there.
Yes , it is a Smart Ass comment.

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:34 AM Richard via Gmclist <

> Grant,
>
> I have no personal experience with the new Airstream style cockpit
> windows, but I do like the idea of a full height operable slider. It
> really bugs
> me to have to lean down to talk through that little toll window. But I'm
> not sure that the taller slider would equate to greatly improved airflow.
> When my OEM toll window is fully open it sucks out more air than it let's
> in. That's because of the Venturi effect of the airflow wrapping around our
> big glorious curved windshields. I would think that the new taller
> windows wouldn't appreciably change the amount of air coming in. I hope
> someone
> with the new windows will chime in and either confirm or debunk my
> suspicions.
>
> If you aren't happy with the wind wing airflow, it's possibly because of
> how you're adjusting the wind wings and sliding window. Do you have the
> trailing edge of the wind wing close to the outside of the glass and the
> glass slid up to that trailing edge? I keep the wind wing about 3/8" away
> from the glass to let bugs scoot by and stay outside (this change occurred
> after discovering a 2" hornet on my shorts). The leading edge of the
> slider shouldn't be further back than the trailing edge of the wind wing,
> and I slide the slider further forward from there to direct the airflow
> where I want it.
>
> I wouldn't have a GMC without wind wings, and the lack of wind wings and
> screens for the Airstream style windows is a deal breaker for me.
>
> JimK at Applied sells two types.
> https://www.gmcrvparts.com/searchresults.asp?Search=Wind+wings
>
> Ragusa manufactures and sells the wind wings as their part number RV-24
> http://www.ragusarv.com/
>
> Richard
>
> --
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> '76 Palm Beach with 18,477 verified miles;
> ‘76 Edgemonte
>
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jimk
http://www.gmcrvparts.com
1-800-752-7502
 
Jim,
I purchased my wind wings from you years ago and they haven't worked. I have checked your site and the tall replacement upgrade is no longer
available. So seems I am stuck with GM's stupid means of passenger and driver window openings.

Like a few things that are no longer available ( flush window upgrade) i should have bough them when they were available. GM or someone needs to
manufacture this coach again, that would make total sense. Its not like the current box v10 options today are any better. our coaches are still years
ahead.

--
1974 GMC Sequoia 26'
 
I think the demise of the windows was simply cost.....they weren't cheap (no surprise as im sure they cost mucho $$ to make).

Patience will be key to find a set in the wild...sooner or later something will show up....how much they will cost, well it wont matter if you truly
want them...lol.
--
Rich Mondor,

Brockville, ON

77 Hughes 2600
 
Grant, you're surrounded with like minded GMCers near Temecula. They know
their stuff, too.
The GMC Pacific Cruisers would welcome you with open arms. Welcome to the
family.

bdub
www.bdub.net

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 1:33 PM Grant Schaffer via Gmclist <

> Jim,
> I purchased my wind wings from you years ago and they haven't worked. I
> have checked your site and the tall replacement upgrade is no longer
> available. So seems I am stuck with GM's stupid means of passenger and
> driver window openings.
>
> Like a few things that are no longer available ( flush window upgrade) i
> should have bough them when they were available. GM or someone needs to
> manufacture this coach again, that would make total sense. Its not like
> the current box v10 options today are any better. our coaches are still
> years
> ahead.
>
> --
> 1974 GMC Sequoia 26'
>
>
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The thing is about the wing windows, that no air can come in, if it has no
place to go after it gets there. I have a vent fan that is always open, (it
is covered and exhausts to the rear) When it is warm enough to use the wind
wings, I open that vent in the rear of the coach and the hot air is
exhausted out of it. Makes a big difference in air flow.
You might try opening windows in the back of the coach a bit, and see if
you like that better.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 1:57 PM Billy Massey via Gmclist <

> Grant, you're surrounded with like minded GMCers near Temecula. They know
> their stuff, too.
> The GMC Pacific Cruisers would welcome you with open arms. Welcome to the
> family.
>
> bdub
> www.bdub.net
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 1:33 PM Grant Schaffer via Gmclist <

>
> > Jim,
> > I purchased my wind wings from you years ago and they haven't worked. I
> > have checked your site and the tall replacement upgrade is no longer
> > available. So seems I am stuck with GM's stupid means of passenger and
> > driver window openings.
> >
> > Like a few things that are no longer available ( flush window upgrade) i
> > should have bough them when they were available. GM or someone needs to
> > manufacture this coach again, that would make total sense. Its not like
> > the current box v10 options today are any better. our coaches are still
> > years
> > ahead.
> >
> > --
> > 1974 GMC Sequoia 26'
> >
> >
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There are a few of us......................LOL!

Len and Pat Novak
1978 GMC Kingsley
The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375

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Grant, you're surrounded with like minded GMCers near Temecula. They know
their stuff, too.
The GMC Pacific Cruisers would welcome you with open arms. Welcome to the
family.

bdub
www.bdub.net

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 1:33 PM Grant Schaffer via Gmclist <

> Jim,
> I purchased my wind wings from you years ago and they haven't worked. I
> have checked your site and the tall replacement upgrade is no longer
> available. So seems I am stuck with GM's stupid means of passenger and
> driver window openings.
>
> Like a few things that are no longer available ( flush window upgrade) i
> should have bough them when they were available. GM or someone needs to
> manufacture this coach again, that would make total sense. Its not like
> the current box v10 options today are any better. our coaches are still
> years
> ahead.
>
> --
> 1974 GMC Sequoia 26'
>
>
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Grant, you did the install wrong or not understanding how it works.
Most will call me and tell me so I can help you. You make it sound like we
sell substandard products.
Please call so we can resolve this issue. We sell more than any GMC Shops
and know our parts.

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 3:44 PM Len Novak via Gmclist <

> There are a few of us......................LOL!
>
> Len and Pat Novak
> 1978 GMC Kingsley
> The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
> Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
>
> www.bdub.net/novak/
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Massey via Gmclist
> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 1:58 PM
> To: GMCnet
> Cc: Billy Massey
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Jim Bounds Sliding driver windows
>
> Grant, you're surrounded with like minded GMCers near Temecula. They know
> their stuff, too.
> The GMC Pacific Cruisers would welcome you with open arms. Welcome to the
> family.
>
> bdub
> www.bdub.net
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 1:33 PM Grant Schaffer via Gmclist <

>
> > Jim,
> > I purchased my wind wings from you years ago and they haven't worked. I
> > have checked your site and the tall replacement upgrade is no longer
> > available. So seems I am stuck with GM's stupid means of passenger and
> > driver window openings.
> >
> > Like a few things that are no longer available ( flush window upgrade) i
> > should have bough them when they were available. GM or someone needs to
> > manufacture this coach again, that would make total sense. Its not like
> > the current box v10 options today are any better. our coaches are still
> > years
> > ahead.
> >
> > --
> > 1974 GMC Sequoia 26'
> >
> >
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Speaking of ‘’ Not understanding how it works ‘’ my belief is that these wind deflectors were designed to enhance the exhaust of the air out of the window not fight lt by bringing it and the bugs in. Just open a window in the rear of the coach and you will have a reverse flow out of the cockpit windows. Also BTW be sure and have water in all your drain traps or you will have unpleasant aroma as these vent wings really do suck.

Nelson Wright
78 Royale rear bath
Belle Isle Fl

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>
> Grant, you did the install wrong or not understanding how it works.
> Most will call me and tell me so I can help you. You make it sound like we
> sell substandard products.
> Please call so we can resolve this issue. We sell more than any GMC Shops
> and know our parts.
>
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 3:44 PM Len Novak via Gmclist <

>>
>> There are a few of us......................LOL!
>>
>> Len and Pat Novak
>> 1978 GMC Kingsley
>> The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
>> Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
>>
>> www.bdub.net/novak/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Billy
>> Massey via Gmclist
>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 1:58 PM
>> To: GMCnet
>> Cc: Billy Massey
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Jim Bounds Sliding driver windows
>>
>> Grant, you're surrounded with like minded GMCers near Temecula. They know
>> their stuff, too.
>> The GMC Pacific Cruisers would welcome you with open arms. Welcome to the
>> family.
>>
>> bdub
>> www.bdub.net
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 1:33 PM Grant Schaffer via Gmclist <

>>
>>> Jim,
>>> I purchased my wind wings from you years ago and they haven't worked. I
>>> have checked your site and the tall replacement upgrade is no longer
>>> available. So seems I am stuck with GM's stupid means of passenger and
>>> driver window openings.
>>>
>>> Like a few things that are no longer available ( flush window upgrade) i
>>> should have bough them when they were available. GM or someone needs to
>>> manufacture this coach again, that would make total sense. Its not like
>>> the current box v10 options today are any better. our coaches are still
>>> years
>>> ahead.
>>>
>>> --
>>> 1974 GMC Sequoia 26'
>>>
>>>
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The full height sliders look nice and are nice for talking to someone, but they don't flow air any better than the little ones.
80mph down the road with them open and nothing is coming in, it's just a function of the shape of the front end of the coach.
The wind wings are the only way to get decent airflow.
--
Justin Brady
http://www.thegmcrv.com/
1976 Palm Beach 455
 
Interesting concept of operation...i do beleive the gent that designed them may have thought the opposite as he had designed screens for the cockpit
windows but hey....if it works, it works....lol.

> Speaking of ‘’ Not understanding how it works ‘’ my belief is that these wind deflectors were designed to enhance the exhaust of the air
> out of the window not fight lt by bringing it and the bugs in. Just open a window in the rear of the coach and you will have a reverse flow out of
> the cockpit windows. Also BTW be sure and have water in all your drain traps or you will have unpleasant aroma as these vent wings really do suck.
>
> Nelson Wright
> 78 Royale rear bath
> Belle Isle Fl
>
> Sent from my iPad
>

> >
> > Grant, you did the install wrong or not understanding how it works.
> > Most will call me and tell me so I can help you. You make it sound like we
> > sell substandard products.
> > Please call so we can resolve this issue. We sell more than any GMC Shops
> > and know our parts.
> >

> >>
> >> There are a few of us......................LOL!
> >>
> >> Len and Pat Novak
> >> 1978 GMC Kingsley
> >> The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
> >> Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule
> >> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
> >>
> >> www.bdub.net/novak/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of Billy
> >> Massey via Gmclist
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 1:58 PM
> >> To: GMCnet
> >> Cc: Billy Massey
> >> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Jim Bounds Sliding driver windows
> >>
> >> Grant, you're surrounded with like minded GMCers near Temecula. They know
> >> their stuff, too.
> >> The GMC Pacific Cruisers would welcome you with open arms. Welcome to the
> >> family.
> >>
> >> bdub
> >> www.bdub.net
> >>
> >>

> >>
> >>> Jim,
> >>> I purchased my wind wings from you years ago and they haven't worked. I
> >>> have checked your site and the tall replacement upgrade is no longer
> >>> available. So seems I am stuck with GM's stupid means of passenger and
> >>> driver window openings.
> >>>
> >>> Like a few things that are no longer available ( flush window upgrade) i
> >>> should have bough them when they were available. GM or someone needs to
> >>> manufacture this coach again, that would make total sense. Its not like
> >>> the current box v10 options today are any better. our coaches are still
> >>> years
> >>> ahead.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> 1974 GMC Sequoia 26'
> >>>
> >>>
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77 Hughes 2600
 
Justin, the CD of the coach is reported at .31 which at the time was beat only by the Corvette. When the airflow is that slick around it, you're
going to have to ruffle it up a bit to get it to go sideways.

--johnny
--
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
 
Frontal area is what the big difference is.
The main reason that the CD is similar to the Corvett is the proportion of
length to cord.
In earning my degree in Aero Space Engineering we were not taugh these
basic things as they felt it was too basic. I learned racing a Soap Box
Cars with my sons.
Wonder why engineers are not respected by technicians?

On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 2:32 PM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <

> Justin, the CD of the coach is reported at .31 which at the time was beat
> only by the Corvette. When the airflow is that slick around it, you're
> going to have to ruffle it up a bit to get it to go sideways.
>
> --johnny
> --
> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell
>
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Actually Johnny, the GMC was better than the Corvette (not really better of course :lol: )but had a lower CD.
Hal
--
1977 Royale 101348,

1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,

1975 Eleganza II, 101230,

1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,

Rio Rancho, NM
 
Coefficient of Drag per cm squared. The frontal area of a Corvette is a
whole bunch (scientific terminology, vbg.) smaller than a GMC. The drag is
less, but the area is huge. So, gross drag is huge also.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Fri, May 1, 2020, 4:26 PM Hal StClair via Gmclist <

> Actually Johnny, the GMC was better than the Corvette (not really better
> of course :lol: )but had a lower CD.
> Hal
> --
> 1977 Royale 101348,
>
> 1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
>
> 1975 Eleganza II, 101230,
>
> 1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
>
> Rio Rancho, NM
>
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Is total shape not calculated into CD and not just frontal area? I'm thinking from the motorcycle world were we try to blend race suit back design
into tail/seat fairing design etc.....

> Coefficient of Drag per cm squared. The frontal area of a Corvette is a
> whole bunch (scientific terminology, vbg.) smaller than a GMC. The drag is
> less, but the area is huge. So, gross drag is huge also.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2020, 4:26 PM Hal StClair via Gmclist <

>
> > Actually Johnny, the GMC was better than the Corvette (not really better
> > of course :lol: )but had a lower CD.
> > Hal
> > --
> > 1977 Royale 101348,
> >
> > 1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
> >
> > 1975 Eleganza II, 101230,
> >
> > 1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
> >
> > Rio Rancho, NM
> >
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77 Hughes 2600
 
Don't know much about streamlining, except that the F-86 Saberjet, on the
early versions, experienced severe buffeting when it approached the speed
of sound. They did extensive wind tunnel work on the wings and tail
feathers, and found nothing. Then, they tested the fuselage, and discovered
that the laminar flow over the fuselage worked fine at sub-sonic speed,
but, close to the speed of sound, became very unstable and tried to fly
sideways both directions at the same time.
The fix came from an engineer that was looking at a coke bottle, and
got the idea that if he pinched in the sides of the fuselage, like Marilyn
Monroe's waist, that the air would change speed until the transition to
supersonic speed was complete. They tried several shapes fore and aft, and
it worked. Shapes are funny things. Today, they have all that empirical
data plugged into computers. They design aircraft now, not people.
There are still "seat of the pants" car builders. A lot of them gather
in the Utah Salt Flats a couple of weeks out of the year to try their ideas
out. Some result in world records, some learn how to make automobiles fly
like a wing. That's how it goes.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Fri, May 1, 2020, 5:43 PM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist
wrote:

> Is total shape not calculated into CD and not just frontal area? I'm
> thinking from the motorcycle world were we try to blend race suit back
> design
> into tail/seat fairing design etc.....
>

> > Coefficient of Drag per cm squared. The frontal area of a Corvette is a
> > whole bunch (scientific terminology, vbg.) smaller than a GMC. The drag
> is
> > less, but the area is huge. So, gross drag is huge also.
> > Jim Hupy
> > Salem, Oregon
> >
> > On Fri, May 1, 2020, 4:26 PM Hal StClair via Gmclist <

> >
> > > Actually Johnny, the GMC was better than the Corvette (not really
> better
> > > of course :lol: )but had a lower CD.
> > > Hal
> > > --
> > > 1977 Royale 101348,
> > >
> > > 1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
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The wings are installed as directed, but it not a real issue. the real issue is getting sufficient air flow though a cat door that was really a design
failure. in is in the wrong location, and in an akward location to boot.

I am finding on this coach that after weeding though all the information you have to pick and choose those items that seem to fit each individual
coach owner best. the concept of redirecting wind via a plastic scoop though an most insane small opening a cat would not use to walk though is insane
thinking. now are the roof hatches open yes , in the AC field one knows that you can only fill as much air in a room as will fit unless you have an
opening to exhaust or one install and exhaust fan. so It goes to say you cant get air in a coach after it is pressurized unless there is a place for
it to escape. that said the design of the cat window is BS and a GM fail.

option , cut to holes in the floor to bring infresh air via an air scoop on the front of the grille. Is hacking into the coach the real answer that
should have been engineered in from the beginning? we should have better options. this coach back in the day was the premier coach and today still is
in my opinion. we should have solutions to be on par with our coaches design. A cat door for a window is not a design solution. I am tired of hacking
on my coach. I mean the average cost of any repair or upgrade on the coach is $1500.00

So who is the company that was making the windows? what can a one off cost $3000.00? buy the time i am done breaking in my new motor and installing it
there will be more that $10,000 in to include the mondello roller set up ill never use. so whats $3000.00 for real side windows?

Sorry for the soap box. Its real exhausting to not have real solutions.



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1974 GMC Sequoia 26'