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Here is a response to a request for a price on a remanufactured 455 CI
engine for my GMC which I sent to Jasper. Thought it might be of use to
some folks.
=====================================================================

Per your request the following information applies:

This engine is going to be remanufactured back to or exceeding
O.E.M.
specifications. It will consist of the remanufactured block, heads,
cam, crank, and
rods. It has a standard set of new internal parts that include:
pistons, rings,
bearings, lifters, valves, valve springs, and timing components.
Included with the
engine will be the oil pump, oil pan, and the timing cover. These are
already installed
on the engine for you.

After the engine is built-up, we then LIVE RUN TEST it at the
factory to make
sure that it is going to be running properly when you receive it. We
actually pour the
fluids in and run it for 1/2 hour to 45 minutes. While it is running we
run checks on
oil pressure, vacuum, and compression. We also check it for any leaks
or noises. This
JASPER complete engine will be backed with a 3 YEAR / 50,000 MILE
WARRANTY. This warranty covers PARTS AND LABOR and is good NATIONWIDE.
The price on your 1974 GMC Motorhome 455cid carb engine is $2434.00
exchange.
If you would like to get this engine on order, or if you have any
further questions
please call my sales department at 1-800-827-7455. Thank you
 
Is there any Machine work done to the 455; e.g., rods, line boering etc.?
Does this include the oil restrictors, valve rotators etc.? Thanks for more
information! Chuck

> Here is a response to a request for a price on a remanufactured 455 CI
> engine for my GMC which I sent to Jasper. Thought it might be of use to
> some folks.
> =====================================================================
>
> Per your request the following information applies:
>
> This engine is going to be remanufactured back to or exceeding
> O.E.M.
> specifications. It will consist of the remanufactured block, heads,
> cam, crank, and
> rods. It has a standard set of new internal parts that include:
> pistons, rings,
> bearings, lifters, valves, valve springs, and timing components.
> Included with the
> engine will be the oil pump, oil pan, and the timing cover. These are
> already installed
> on the engine for you.
>
> After the engine is built-up, we then LIVE RUN TEST it at the
> factory to make
> sure that it is going to be running properly when you receive it. We
> actually pour the
> fluids in and run it for 1/2 hour to 45 minutes. While it is running we
> run checks on
> oil pressure, vacuum, and compression. We also check it for any leaks
> or noises. This
> JASPER complete engine will be backed with a 3 YEAR / 50,000 MILE
> WARRANTY. This warranty covers PARTS AND LABOR and is good NATIONWIDE.
> The price on your 1974 GMC Motorhome 455cid carb engine is $2434.00
> exchange.
> If you would like to get this engine on order, or if you have any
> further questions
> please call my sales department at 1-800-827-7455. Thank you
 
Jasper's run in test must be recent. One of our GMC SS members had Golby
install a Jasper and it overheated on the way home. Turned out Jasper had
used head gaskets for a 403ci on the 455ci!

Dave Greenberg
GMC Motorhome Registry
200 MacFarlane Dr PH4
Delray Beach, FL 33483-6829

On Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:50:08 -0400 Ralph Edelbach
writes:
>Here is a response to a request for a price on a remanufactured 455 CI
>engine for my GMC which I sent to Jasper. Thought it might be of use
>to
>some folks.
>=====================================================================
>
>Per your request the following information applies:
>
> This engine is going to be remanufactured back to or exceeding
>O.E.M.
>specifications. It will consist of the remanufactured block, heads,
>cam, crank, and
>rods. It has a standard set of new internal parts that include:
>pistons, rings,
>bearings, lifters, valves, valve springs, and timing components.
>Included with the
>engine will be the oil pump, oil pan, and the timing cover. These are
>already installed
>on the engine for you.
>
> After the engine is built-up, we then LIVE RUN TEST it at the
>factory to make
>sure that it is going to be running properly when you receive it. We
>actually pour the
>fluids in and run it for 1/2 hour to 45 minutes. While it is running
>we
>run checks on
>oil pressure, vacuum, and compression. We also check it for any leaks
>or noises. This
>JASPER complete engine will be backed with a 3 YEAR / 50,000 MILE
>WARRANTY. This warranty covers PARTS AND LABOR and is good
>NATIONWIDE.
>The price on your 1974 GMC Motorhome 455cid carb engine is $2434.00
>exchange.
>If you would like to get this engine on order, or if you have any
>further questions
>please call my sales department at 1-800-827-7455. Thank you
>
>

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i believe ninex prices are much better.

X-Sender: ninex
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:36:35 -0600
To: warner (thomas Warner)
From: Ninex Engine
Subject: Re: Price Quote Email

>This e-mail is in response to your form on www.ditell.com
>---------------------------------------------------------
>Quote_for = Engine - Long Block
>Year = 1976
>Make = GMC
>Model = motorhome
>Engine_Size = olds 455 CI (toronado engine)
>VIN = TZE166V100496
>Name = thomas Warner
>Address = 3692 Hogan road
>City = Vernon Center
>State = NY
>Zip = 13477
>Phone = 315-829-3398
>FAX = 315-829-3398
>Email = warner
>AT = on
>AC = on
>PS = on
>---------------------------------------------------------
>HERE IS YOUE ESTIMATE YOU REQUESTED YOUR ENGINE WILL BE $1138.00 and the
core deposit will be $225.00 THIS CORE NEEDS TO BE SENT TO THE FACTORY TO
BE INSPECTED BEFOR CREDIT CAN BE ISSUED. ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE CAN DO
PLEASE LET US KNOW.

THANK YOU

OFFICE MANAGER
NINEX ENGINE
>

>Jasper's run in test must be recent. One of our GMC SS members had Golby
>install a Jasper and it overheated on the way home. Turned out Jasper had
>used head gaskets for a 403ci on the 455ci!
>
>
> Dave Greenberg
>GMC Motorhome Registry
> 200 MacFarlane Dr PH4
>Delray Beach, FL 33483-6829
>
>On Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:50:08 -0400 Ralph Edelbach
>writes:
>>Here is a response to a request for a price on a remanufactured 455 CI
>>engine for my GMC which I sent to Jasper. Thought it might be of use
>>to
>>some folks.
>>=====================================================================
>>
>>Per your request the following information applies:
>>
>> This engine is going to be remanufactured back to or exceeding
>>O.E.M.
>>specifications. It will consist of the remanufactured block, heads,
>>cam, crank, and
>>rods. It has a standard set of new internal parts that include:
>>pistons, rings,
>>bearings, lifters, valves, valve springs, and timing components.
>>Included with the
>>engine will be the oil pump, oil pan, and the timing cover. These are
>>already installed
>>on the engine for you.
>>
>> After the engine is built-up, we then LIVE RUN TEST it at the
>>factory to make
>>sure that it is going to be running properly when you receive it. We
>>actually pour the
>>fluids in and run it for 1/2 hour to 45 minutes. While it is running
>>we
>>run checks on
>>oil pressure, vacuum, and compression. We also check it for any leaks
>>or noises. This
>>JASPER complete engine will be backed with a 3 YEAR / 50,000 MILE
>>WARRANTY. This warranty covers PARTS AND LABOR and is good
>>NATIONWIDE.
>>The price on your 1974 GMC Motorhome 455cid carb engine is $2434.00
>>exchange.
>>If you would like to get this engine on order, or if you have any
>>further questions
>>please call my sales department at 1-800-827-7455. Thank you
>>
>>
>
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I'm inclined to look for bargains but after 3 decades on this planet I
have learned you get what you pay for. This is not to suggest any of he
rebuilders mentioned in this thread are in any way deficient but as Arch
says the GMC does require a RV cam and there are other differences. On
the other hand I know of one Winterfeldt engine that blew a piston at
100k miles.

My engine (2nd one) is a Mondello engine with oil restrictors and has
over 300k miles on it with a timing chain and valve job about 5 years
ago. It still gets by on a quart of oil every 800-900 miles,still gets me
over 8mpg towing a car and oil pressure still looks good.

The first engine was a stock 403ci and was pulled at 280k miles

I will be looking for an engine soon just to have a backup but the old
girl still goes and goes!
Dave Greenberg
GMC Motorhome Registry
200 MacFarlane Dr PH4
Delray Beach, FL 33483-6829

>I dont want to get to far into this thing but must say something.
>When I talked to the service rep from Jasper the whole conversation
>changed when I told him I wanted it for a GMC motorhome. The person
>told me that they build a special engine for the motorhome. It has a
>different cam and a bunch of other stuff. He also told me that they
>had
>worked with Mondello and Cinnabar to develop it. I do know Cinnabar
>puts in Jasper engines. Again this is what I was told------I dont know
>it
>to be fact.
>
>Take Care
>Arch 76 GB IL
>
>
>>
>> i believe ninex prices are much better.
>>
>

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>Here is a response to a request for a price on a remanufactured 455 CI
>engine for my GMC which I sent to Jasper. Thought it might be of use to
>some folks.
>=====================================================================
>
>Per your request the following information applies:
>
> This engine is going to be remanufactured back to or exceeding
>O.E.M.
>specifications. It will consist of the remanufactured block, heads,
>cam, crank, and
>rods. It has a standard set of new internal parts that include:
>pistons, rings,
>bearings, lifters, valves, valve springs, and timing components.
>Included with the
>engine will be the oil pump, oil pan, and the timing cover. These are
>already installed
>on the engine for you.
>
> After the engine is built-up, we then LIVE RUN TEST it at the
>factory to make
>sure that it is going to be running properly when you receive it. We
>actually pour the
>fluids in and run it for 1/2 hour to 45 minutes. While it is running we
>run checks on
>oil pressure, vacuum, and compression. We also check it for any leaks
>or noises. This
>JASPER complete engine will be backed with a 3 YEAR / 50,000 MILE
>WARRANTY. This warranty covers PARTS AND LABOR and is good NATIONWIDE.
>The price on your 1974 GMC Motorhome 455cid carb engine is $2434.00
>exchange.
>If you would like to get this engine on order, or if you have any
>further questions
>please call my sales department at 1-800-827-7455. Thank you

I got back a price from em today. Mine said the same thing 'except' for
price.....

"The price on your 1977 GMC Motorhome 455cid carb engine is $3059.00
exchange."

Reckon that's the difference in freight charges?

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I didn't think anyone paid any attention to me so I thought I could get
away with 3 decades instead of three score! Thanks, Larry for keeping me
straight!

Dave Greenberg
GMC Motorhome Registry
200 MacFarlane Dr PH4
Delray Beach, FL 33483-6829

>In a message dated 10/22/98 9:15:33 PM Central Daylight Time,

>
>time on
>another planet? (g). Larry Nelson PB 75, Springfield, MO
>

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Dave,

Did Jasper correct the problem??? We can understand mistake as
long as one is willing to stand behind the product.

When we had our differential and transmission rebuilt, we had to
take it back five times because there was a transmission fluid leak.
After that, the person who did the labor was pointing the finger at
the rebuilder, and visa vers. That is when our patience runs thin.
Had someone else to look at it, and it was the gasket had been tore
during installation. But of course that is another story.

BTW - the reason for the rebuilt was it was what we could afford at
the time.

> Jasper's run in test must be recent. One of our GMC SS members had Golby
> install a Jasper and it overheated on the way home. Turned out Jasper had
> used head gaskets for a 403ci on the 455ci!
>
>
> Dave Greenberg
Les & Des
Living Praise Ministries

mailto:lpraise
Visit us at: http://www.livingpraise.org
 
Well, Les n Des, Jasper did reimburse Golby for the repair but the really
amusing part of he story I left out.

Seems when Golby did the repair they did the same darn thing jasper did,
Yup! They put it together using the wrong head gaskets again! Needless to
say the owner set them straight.

Dave Greenberg
GMC Motorhome Registry
200 MacFarlane Dr PH4
Delray Beach, FL 33483-6829

>Dave,
>
>Did Jasper correct the problem??? We can understand mistake as
>long as one is willing to stand behind the product.
>
>When we had our differential and transmission rebuilt, we had to
>take it back five times because there was a transmission fluid leak.
>After that, the person who did the labor was pointing the finger at
>the rebuilder, and visa vers. That is when our patience runs thin.
>Had someone else to look at it, and it was the gasket had been tore
>during installation. But of course that is another story.
>
>BTW - the reason for the rebuilt was it was what we could afford at
>the time.
>
>> Jasper's run in test must be recent. One of our GMC SS members had
>Golby
>> install a Jasper and it overheated on the way home. Turned out
>Jasper had
>> used head gaskets for a 403ci on the 455ci!
>>
>>
>> Dave Greenberg
>Les & Des
>Living Praise Ministries
>
>mailto:lpraise
>Visit us at: http://www.livingpraise.org
>
 
Well, Les n Des, Jasper did reimburse Golby for the repair but the really
amusing part of he story I left out.

Seems when Golby did the repair they did the same darn thing jasper did,
Yup! They put it together using the wrong head gaskets again! Needless to
say the owner set them straight.

Dave Greenberg
GMC Motorhome Registry
200 MacFarlane Dr PH4
Delray Beach, FL 33483-6829

>Dave,
>
>Did Jasper correct the problem??? We can understand mistake as
>long as one is willing to stand behind the product.
>
>When we had our differential and transmission rebuilt, we had to
>take it back five times because there was a transmission fluid leak.
>After that, the person who did the labor was pointing the finger at
>the rebuilder, and visa vers. That is when our patience runs thin.
>Had someone else to look at it, and it was the gasket had been tore
>during installation. But of course that is another story.
>
>BTW - the reason for the rebuilt was it was what we could afford at
>the time.
>
>> Jasper's run in test must be recent. One of our GMC SS members had
>Golby
>> install a Jasper and it overheated on the way home. Turned out
>Jasper had
>> used head gaskets for a 403ci on the 455ci!
>>
>>
>> Dave Greenberg
>Les & Des
>Living Praise Ministries
>
>mailto:lpraise
>Visit us at: http://www.livingpraise.org
>
 
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