GMC Experiment

Ken & Mac: When I ordered my mile star 16.5 tires from Walmart there was an option to deliver to store or home. I did not know if delivered to
store they would mount free. I'll check on that Ken, Tennessee might be different. I did call Sams club and they will not mount tires bought from
Walmart. The Walmart local says they didn't do motorhomes. I put my spare in the truck with a new tire and went riding around, went to big Walmart
on I-40 and they looked at it in the truck and said they would be glad to mount and balance but it was first come basis and they were 2 hours wait. I
was told if Walmart balanced and mounted I could get road hazard warranty but no price or charges was discussed. Tires I have bought from Sams
charged $9 @ iirc for mounting and road hazard a few years back.
Ken since you took your tires in to get mounted did you get road hazard or was it offered?

> Had somebody posted that Walmart would not install tires on motorhomes?
>
> I will need new tires if/when I ever get my coach on the road again.
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald​
> Amateur Radio K2GKK​
> Since 30 November '53​
> USAF and FAA, Retired​
> Member GMCMI & Classics​
> Oklahoma City, OK​
> "The Money Pit"​
> TZE166V101966
> ________________________________
> From: Ken Henderson
> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 18:08
> To: D C _Mac_ Macdonald
> Cc: GMC Mail List ; Thomas Mike
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Experiment
>
> Lots of dealers (Google "Westlake SL309"), but I got mine from Walmart online -- they did not appear on the local store's computer. The tires
> were delivered to the local store and installed there without charge, except for the government-dictated $1.50 each disposal fee.
>
> Ken H.
>

> Who sells the Westlake tires? Are they US or Chinese made?
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald​
> Amateur Radio K2GKK​
> Since 30 November '53​
> USAF and FAA, Retired​
> Member GMCMI & Classics​
> Oklahoma City, OK​
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>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Ken Henderson via Gmclist
> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 17:28
> To: GMC Mail List
> Cc: Ken Henderson ; Thomas Mike
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Experiment
>
> Yep, those are the ones. They look, sound, and ride good. The
> endorsements from Chuck and Fred make me feel even better than I already
> did about the experiment. Unless they cause collateral damage, they'll be
> hard to beat at $83.41 each.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 6:02 PM Thomas Mike via Gmclist <

>
> > Ken,
> >
> > I too am in the market for tires. Are these the ones you bought from
> > Walmart?
> >
> > Westlake
> > SL 309 225-75R 16 115
> >
> > Focusing on the SL309
> >
> > Won't let me upload the pic.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > --
> > Mike Thomas
> > Marine City, MI
> > 77 ex Palm Beach
> >
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76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
 
WalMart in Safford, AZ had no trouble installing tires on the Palm Beach.
bdub

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Had somebody posted that Walmart would not install tires on motorhomes?

I will need new tires if/when I ever get my coach on the road again.
 
Chuck,
I had the tires delivered to the store for convenience only. When I went
to pay I was surprised to only be charged the disposal fee (I'd already
paid in advance for the tires & tax via credit card). "We don't charge to
mount tires sold by Walmart." No one mentioned road hazard but I remember
seeing that it would be available -- I think for 30 days after purchase. I
don't know the cost but should probably check & buy it, not that you
mention it.

I've never found a Sam's nor Walmart that would mount on an RV (bays aren't
generally big enough, if for no other reason). In fact, I don't think
they'll mount on anything that they can't verify the correct tire size is
being mounted. That would let us out with our 16" wheels, even if they
could discover OEM was 16.5, which I'm sure they couldn't.

Oh yeah, I measured out the rest of the bottle of airsoft pellets I bought
into 4 oz. baggies. The 5000 ea. 0.25 g. beads were enough for 11 tires.
I'll try to remember to bring the extras (along with Heller's ceramic
beads, which may be small enough to need valve core protection) to
Mansfield in case anyone needs them.

Ken H.

>
>
 
I think I'll check with Discount Tire to see if they can get the Westlake tires. Discount put on new tires in New Braunfels, TX where I bought my coach. Those tires are now timed out at five or six years with only 500 miles (at most) put on them. Local Discount Tire sold me my alloy wheels (two every month or so) and changed out the tires to the new rims.

D C "Mac" Macdonald​
Amateur Radio K2GKK​
Since 30 November '53​
USAF and FAA, Retired​
Member GMCMI & Classics​
Oklahoma City, OK​
"The Money Pit"​
TZE166V101966

________________________________
From: Gmclist on behalf of Charles Boyd via Gmclist
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 20:05
To: gmclist
Cc: Charles Boyd
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Experiment

Ken & Mac: When I ordered my mile star 16.5 tires from Walmart there was an option to deliver to store or home. I did not know if delivered to
store they would mount free. I'll check on that Ken, Tennessee might be different. I did call Sams club and they will not mount tires bought from
Walmart. The Walmart local says they didn't do motorhomes. I put my spare in the truck with a new tire and went riding around, went to big Walmart
on I-40 and they looked at it in the truck and said they would be glad to mount and balance but it was first come basis and they were 2 hours wait. I
was told if Walmart balanced and mounted I could get road hazard warranty but no price or charges was discussed. Tires I have bought from Sams
charged $9 @ iirc for mounting and road hazard a few years back.
Ken since you took your tires in to get mounted did you get road hazard or was it offered?

> Had somebody posted that Walmart would not install tires on motorhomes?
>
> I will need new tires if/when I ever get my coach on the road again.
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald​
> Amateur Radio K2GKK​
> Since 30 November '53​
> USAF and FAA, Retired​
> Member GMCMI & Classics​
> Oklahoma City, OK​
> "The Money Pit"​
> TZE166V101966
> ________________________________
> From: Ken Henderson
> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 18:08
> To: D C _Mac_ Macdonald
> Cc: GMC Mail List ; Thomas Mike
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Experiment
>
> Lots of dealers (Google "Westlake SL309"), but I got mine from Walmart online -- they did not appear on the local store's computer. The tires
> were delivered to the local store and installed there without charge, except for the government-dictated $1.50 each disposal fee.
>
> Ken H.
>

> Who sells the Westlake tires? Are they US or Chinese made?
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald​
> Amateur Radio K2GKK​
> Since 30 November '53​
> USAF and FAA, Retired​
> Member GMCMI & Classics​
> Oklahoma City, OK​
> "The Money Pit"​
> TZE166V101966
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Ken Henderson via Gmclist
> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 17:28
> To: GMC Mail List
> Cc: Ken Henderson ; Thomas Mike
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Experiment
>
> Yep, those are the ones. They look, sound, and ride good. The
> endorsements from Chuck and Fred make me feel even better than I already
> did about the experiment. Unless they cause collateral damage, they'll be
> hard to beat at $83.41 each.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 6:02 PM Thomas Mike via Gmclist <

>
> > Ken,
> >
> > I too am in the market for tires. Are these the ones you bought from
> > Walmart?
> >
> > Westlake
> > SL 309 225-75R 16 115
> >
> > Focusing on the SL309
> >
> > Won't let me upload the pic.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > --
> > Mike Thomas
> > Marine City, MI
> > 77 ex Palm Beach
> >
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I was not going to post. Ken looks like he has done his research, and Fred's experience is worth it's weight.

but.. My in-laws bought a Grand Design 5th wheel toyhauler about 5 years ago now. at that time I joined a couple forums that catered to the "Grand
Design" RV's. WestLake brand have a pretty poor reputation in those circles as they are the primary tire that the 5th wheel comes off the assembly
line with. 2nd year of ownership when one of the in-law's friends had a blow out on their almost brand new 5th wheel(bought that fall and they were
on it's first trip to winter in AZ) and it left them stranded down in middle of know where Arizona(I guess out in some places, trying to get a 5th
wheel toy hauler towed off the highway is as difficult as a GMC). He even had a tire pressure monitoring system. My father-in-law decided to toss
all the pretty much new West Lake tires for some higher rated goodyear. I see many posts about blown out westlake tires on these seemingly brand
new pull behind RV's on the forum.

however with that said, WestLake, goodyear or michelins? there are stories of blow outs with all the manufactures somewhere. low pressure,
overloaded, bad luck? Probably impossible to figure out root causes. I have friends that can drive all day on old dry rotted tires, but if I try
it, I will end up with the blow out.
--
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
 
I just hope that a bunch of you are not going to be sorry that you opted for the cheapest tires you could find.

My and my wife’s safety is far more important to me than saving $600 on tires every six years.
If one blows you’ll likely have much more than that in body damage.

I won’t join in your “experiment “. Over the years I’ve seen too many cases of cheap overseas tires failing.

Remember the old adage “you get what you pay for”. It has been proven true many, many times.

I don’t see any experience given with driving them long term.
Ken just recently installed them and Fred has them on a vehicle in Alaska that isn’t driven many miles per year and likely at much lower speeds than the average GMC is driven on Interstates.

I’ll keep an open mind but I’d need a few years of someone’s hard use to convince me otherwise.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

>
> I was not going to post. Ken looks like he has done his research, and Fred's experience is worth it's weight.
>
> but.. My in-laws bought a Grand Design 5th wheel toyhauler about 5 years ago now. at that time I joined a couple forums that catered to the "Grand
> Design" RV's. WestLake brand have a pretty poor reputation in those circles as they are the primary tire that the 5th wheel comes off the assembly
> line with. 2nd year of ownership when one of the in-law's friends had a blow out on their almost brand new 5th wheel(bought that fall and they were
> on it's first trip to winter in AZ) and it left them stranded down in middle of know where Arizona(I guess out in some places, trying to get a 5th
> wheel toy hauler towed off the highway is as difficult as a GMC). He even had a tire pressure monitoring system. My father-in-law decided to toss
> all the pretty much new West Lake tires for some higher rated goodyear. I see many posts about blown out westlake tires on these seemingly brand
> new pull behind RV's on the forum.
>
> however with that said, WestLake, goodyear or michelins? there are stories of blow outs with all the manufactures somewhere. low pressure,
> overloaded, bad luck? Probably impossible to figure out root causes. I have friends that can drive all day on old dry rotted tires, but if I try
> it, I will end up with the blow out.
> --
> Jon Roche
> 75 palm beach
> St. Cloud, MN
 
Emory,
No need to by tires fro Red China, they are taking advantage of us. Trump
is the only one that is not putting up with that.
I'm a big prejudiced against the Red Chinese Rulers that are the puppet
handlers.
Let's move our MFG to Mexico , Vietnam, India or Taiwan.

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 12:28 PM Emery Stora via Gmclist <

> I just hope that a bunch of you are not going to be sorry that you opted
> for the cheapest tires you could find.
>
> My and my wife’s safety is far more important to me than saving $600 on
> tires every six years.
> If one blows you’ll likely have much more than that in body damage.
>
> I won’t join in your “experiment “. Over the years I’ve seen too many
> cases of cheap overseas tires failing.
>
> Remember the old adage “you get what you pay for”. It has been proven
> true many, many times.
>
> I don’t see any experience given with driving them long term.
> Ken just recently installed them and Fred has them on a vehicle in Alaska
> that isn’t driven many miles per year and likely at much lower speeds than
> the average GMC is driven on Interstates.
>
> I’ll keep an open mind but I’d need a few years of someone’s hard use to
> convince me otherwise.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
>
>
> > On Aug 26, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Jon Roche via Gmclist <

> >
> > I was not going to post. Ken looks like he has done his research, and
> Fred's experience is worth it's weight.
> >
> > but.. My in-laws bought a Grand Design 5th wheel toyhauler about 5
> years ago now. at that time I joined a couple forums that catered to the
> "Grand
> > Design" RV's. WestLake brand have a pretty poor reputation in those
> circles as they are the primary tire that the 5th wheel comes off the
> assembly
> > line with. 2nd year of ownership when one of the in-law's friends had
> a blow out on their almost brand new 5th wheel(bought that fall and they
> were
> > on it's first trip to winter in AZ) and it left them stranded down in
> middle of know where Arizona(I guess out in some places, trying to get a 5th
> > wheel toy hauler towed off the highway is as difficult as a GMC). He
> even had a tire pressure monitoring system. My father-in-law decided to
> toss
> > all the pretty much new West Lake tires for some higher rated goodyear.
> I see many posts about blown out westlake tires on these seemingly brand
> > new pull behind RV's on the forum.
> >
> > however with that said, WestLake, goodyear or michelins? there are
> stories of blow outs with all the manufactures somewhere. low pressure,
> > overloaded, bad luck? Probably impossible to figure out root causes.
> I have friends that can drive all day on old dry rotted tires, but if I try
> > it, I will end up with the blow out.
> > --
> > Jon Roche
> > 75 palm beach
> > St. Cloud, MN
>
>
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Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
 
Some MFG has been in Vietnam for quite awhile! I have a really great Columbia ski parka that was made there!

D C "Mac" Macdonald​
Amateur Radio K2GKK​
Since 30 November '53​
USAF and FAA, Retired​
Member GMCMI & Classics​
Oklahoma City, OK​
"The Money Pit"​
TZE166V101966

________________________________
From: Gmclist on behalf of Jim Kanomata via Gmclist
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 15:09
To: gmclist
Cc: Jim Kanomata
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Experiment

Emory,
No need to by tires fro Red China, they are taking advantage of us. Trump
is the only one that is not putting up with that.
I'm a big prejudiced against the Red Chinese Rulers that are the puppet
handlers.
Let's move our MFG to Mexico , Vietnam, India or Taiwan.

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 12:28 PM Emery Stora via Gmclist <

> I just hope that a bunch of you are not going to be sorry that you opted
> for the cheapest tires you could find.
>
> My and my wife’s safety is far more important to me than saving $600 on
> tires every six years.
> If one blows you’ll likely have much more than that in body damage.
>
> I won’t join in your “experiment “. Over the years I’ve seen too many
> cases of cheap overseas tires failing.
>
> Remember the old adage “you get what you pay for”. It has been proven
> true many, many times.
>
> I don’t see any experience given with driving them long term.
> Ken just recently installed them and Fred has them on a vehicle in Alaska
> that isn’t driven many miles per year and likely at much lower speeds than
> the average GMC is driven on Interstates.
>
> I’ll keep an open mind but I’d need a few years of someone’s hard use to
> convince me otherwise.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
 
The Milestar tires are marketed by Tireco in Gardenia, California manufactured in Taiwan.
--
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
 
When I was a kid, the cheap stuff was Japanese

Then their stuff got great, and cheap came from Taiwan.

Then Taiwan went upmarket, and the cheap junk came from South Korea.

Then they improved, and the cheap stuff was China.

There’s a pattern here.

Where to next? Vietnam? The Malaysian stuff is already quite good.

I guess I don’t look askance at “Made in Taiwan” anymore.

Dolph Santorine

DE AD0LF

Wheeling, West Virginia

1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
Howell EFI/EBL , Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission

>
> The Milestar tires are marketed by Tireco in Gardenia, California manufactured in Taiwan.
> --
> C. Boyd
> 76 Crestmont
> East Tennessee
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Emery,

Your points are well taken. But in the past I've always bought the "brand
name" tires -- and had trouble with them too. If these "cheepies" start to
act up, I'll "upgrade" again -- but unless they really act up badly, I
don't know that upgrading will be an improvement.

By the way, IIRC, a few years ago you had a tire blow out leaning against
your garage. T/F? What brand was that one? And I also remember seeing,
in WA state, IIRC, a Michelin that blew out while mounted as a GMC spare.

Well, I called it an experiment, so I don't take responsibility for anyone
choosing to play follow-the-leader. :-)

By the way, regarding those frequent failures on the 5th wheels OEM
Westlakes: With that history, I'd sure be doing what I'm glad I did after
leaving Walmart -- Check all the tire pressures!!! I'd fully expected that
they'd have done as they should and inflated them to the maximum of 80
psi. Nope -- they were at 40-50 psi!

Ken H.

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 3:28 PM Emery Stora via Gmclist <

> I just hope that a bunch of you are not going to be sorry that you opted
> for the cheapest tires you could find.
>
> My and my wife’s safety is far more important to me than saving $600 on
> tires every six years.
> If one blows you’ll likely have much more than that in body damage.
>
> I won’t join in your “experiment “. Over the years I’ve seen too many
> cases of cheap overseas tires failing.
>
> Remember the old adage “you get what you pay for”. It has been proven
> true many, many times.
>
> I don’t see any experience given with driving them long term.
> Ken just recently installed them and Fred has them on a vehicle in Alaska
> that isn’t driven many miles per year and likely at much lower speeds than
> the average GMC is driven on Interstates.
>
> I’ll keep an open mind but I’d need a few years of someone’s hard use to
> convince me otherwise.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
>
>
> > On Aug 26, 2019, at 12:14 PM, Jon Roche via Gmclist <

> >
> > I was not going to post. Ken looks like he has done his research, and
> Fred's experience is worth it's weight.
> >
> > but.. My in-laws bought a Grand Design 5th wheel toyhauler about 5
> years ago now. at that time I joined a couple forums that catered to the
> "Grand
> > Design" RV's. WestLake brand have a pretty poor reputation in those
> circles as they are the primary tire that the 5th wheel comes off the
> assembly
> > line with. 2nd year of ownership when one of the in-law's friends had
> a blow out on their almost brand new 5th wheel(bought that fall and they
> were
> > on it's first trip to winter in AZ) and it left them stranded down in
> middle of know where Arizona(I guess out in some places, trying to get a 5th
> > wheel toy hauler towed off the highway is as difficult as a GMC). He
> even had a tire pressure monitoring system. My father-in-law decided to
> toss
> > all the pretty much new West Lake tires for some higher rated goodyear.
> I see many posts about blown out westlake tires on these seemingly brand
> > new pull behind RV's on the forum.
> >
> > however with that said, WestLake, goodyear or michelins? there are
> stories of blow outs with all the manufactures somewhere. low pressure,
> > overloaded, bad luck? Probably impossible to figure out root causes.
> I have friends that can drive all day on old dry rotted tires, but if I try
> > it, I will end up with the blow out.
> > --
> > Jon Roche
> > 75 palm beach
> > St. Cloud, MN
>
>
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I just hope that a bunch of you are not going to be sorry that you opted for
the cheapest tires you could find.

My and my wife?s safety is far more important to me than saving $600 on
tires every six years.
If one blows you?ll likely have much more than that in body damage.

I won?t join in your ?experiment ?. Over the years I?ve seen too many cases
of cheap overseas tires failing.

Remember the old adage ?you get what you pay for?. It has been proven true
many, many times.

I don?t see any experience given with driving them long term.
Ken just recently installed them and Fred has them on a vehicle in Alaska
that isn?t driven many miles per year and likely at much lower speeds than
the average GMC is driven on Interstates.

I?ll keep an open mind but I?d need a few years of someone?s hard use to
convince me otherwise.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
 
One thing I'd add about the blowouts on new RVs and 5th wheel trailers... I've read lots of horror stories about how (particularly new...) owners pack
everything including the kitchen sink in the ample storage most of those units have underneath the "house floor" and that there are a LOT of RVs and
trailers running around way, way over gross. Of course, we GMCers avoid that behavior if only because there's no place to store the kitchen sink. ;)
Given the weight rating of the tires we're talking about, I can easily believe that at least some of the failures were due to serious overloading.

And FWIW, I had a couple "brand name" tires come apart on me after about six years. They didn't leave me stranded, but were showing lots of sidewall
cord when I got home.

That's all to say that I'm going to watch this thread with interest, since I've got four tires that are pretty much aged out...
--
Mark Hickey
Mesa, AZ
1978 Royale Center Kitchen
 
Ken,

I suspect you are a detail oriented person (the underwood labels gave you away) and these tires met the specs for your coach. I'm not sure if it's
the 23' Birchhaven or the 26' Palm Beach. Do you think the weight difference between the two would change your mind as to these tires, or are they
sufficient for both?

My tires may be creeping up on 10 years...
--
Larry Davick
A Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, Ca
Howell EFI + EBL + Electronic Dizzy
 
Larry,

I gave the 26' to my son 8-10 years ago, so I let him worry about it now
('tho' I did give him the unused spare from my old set on the 23'). So,
yes, the Birchaven got the new Westlake tires. Not that it would have
mattered if it was a 26' one -- they both call for Load Range E tires
(rated for 2680# at 80 psi). Some folks in the past have been willing to
use LRD tires on their 26's -- I would never. In fact, I'd use LRF, LRG,
or maybe LRH, if such were made. :-)

Don't tell me I've claimed another victim to join my experiment!? ('Tho'
with 10 yo tires, you may not not be justified in claiming victimhood).

Good luck!

Ken H.

On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 12:59 AM Larry Davick via Gmclist <

> Ken,
>
> I suspect you are a detail oriented person (the underwood labels gave you
> away) and these tires met the specs for your coach. I'm not sure if it's
> the 23' Birchhaven or the 26' Palm Beach. Do you think the weight
> difference between the two would change your mind as to these tires, or are
> they
> sufficient for both?
>
> My tires may be creeping up on 10 years...
> --
> Larry Davick
> A Mystery Machine
> 1976(ish) Palm Beach
> Fremont, Ca
> Howell EFI + EBL + Electronic Dizzy
>
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Just to sling a bit of mud into the fight...i find it interesring that people would beat up Ken for going down this road but yet would encourage his
purchase if they were Michelins or BFG's bought at Walmart (Target etc).

The truth is the BFG or Michelin or any other name brand tire is made to Walmart or those other stores specs....they are NOT the same tires you get
directly at a Michellin tire store etc or they are seconds. Sears was the worst for this.

Now this isnt to say those or any tires are good or bad but all these tires are tested, rated and certified to be on the road.

My personal experience with off brands like Kuhmo etc has been really good although sometimes the rubber compound is a bit harder or they maybe a
little noisier. Will i join the no name brand crowd? Not sure but after looking over the Michelins that came with my coach and how bad they have
weathered i can say im not going to replace them with the same......YMMV

--
Rich Mondor,

Brockville, ON

77 Hughes 2600
 
I've had good luck with my:
Nokian Rotiiva HT All-Season Radial Tire - 225/75R16 112S

Finnish brand but made at there St. Petersburg Factory.

They are making a factory in Chattanooga, Tennessee.
If any of that matters to anyone.
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1977 Kingsley 455 as stock as it gets except lots of Ragusa parts
 
My personal experience and our customers on tires seem to be age related.
When one runs for a long stretch at low air pressure, the tire will blow
out and fall apart in small pieces and lose air pressure and very little
damage to the coach.
When one runs tires over 5 yrs and not use the coach frequently, the tread
peals off in large piece and damage the inner fenders and access doors.
Amount of damage will be over $ 1,000.
In my way of thinking, running on tires over 5 years only twice a year is
not about safety, but about frustration of repair.
Yes, your insurance will cover the damage.
People that use their coaches frequently seem to get by with longer
duration of use.
I have found that Good Year and Michalen are higher price.
Firestone seem to be reasonably priced and the tread seem to last.
When we work on the suspension system on customers coach, we start by
checking the air pressure. We find majority to be around 10-15 psi below
spec.

On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 7:24 AM Mike Hamm via Gmclist <

> I've had good luck with my:
> Nokian Rotiiva HT All-Season Radial Tire - 225/75R16 112S
>
> Finnish brand but made at there St. Petersburg Factory.
>
> They are making a factory in Chattanooga, Tennessee.
> If any of that matters to anyone.
> --
> 1977 Kingsley 455 as stock as it gets except lots of Ragusa parts
>
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Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
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