Dual circuit coolers, More to do???

thomas g. warner

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Perma cool has a nice dual circuit maxi-cool PRM-13318 for $172.95, that is
a brute. Size is 4"H X 10 1/2"W X 18" L with 900 CFM fan. It has 3/8" FPT
ends and can be obtained from Summit 1-800-230-3030. Also have a 500 CFM
model for $149.95

>There are a couple of manufacturers who make a combined cooling unit with fan
>attached that can be mounted anywhere under the coach. Revcor and
Flex-a-lite both
>make these units. Flex-a-lite makes a unit that has two different cooling
coils in
>it with an attached fan that can do both oil and trans oil. Size is 15 x 17
x 3.
>Can be mounted anywhere. I am planning to use this config., and mounting it
beside
>the rad on the drivers side behind the steering assembly. Darren
>

>
>> Chuck, Are you telling me to eliminate the oil and xmission fluid cooling
>> INTEGRAL to the factory rad and ADD separate coolers for these two functions?
>> I agree that separating these will enhance the engine cooling the rad is
>> designed to achieve (by taking out the heat from the xmission and oil) but
>> is there enough room up there for two more coils? And if those new coils go
>> foreward of the rad, isn't there the potential for air flow restriction to
>> the rad (and the A/C condenser which is already foreward of the rad on my
>> coach)?
>> And, if that IS your recommendation (and I suspect you know a hell of a lot
>> more about this than I do right now :-)), might it not be wise to convert to
>> a rad NOT having the separate cooling chambers for the now relocated oil and
>> xmission fluid cooling, thereby gaining that space for more heat xfer for
>> the engine coolant.
>>
>> I find that I'm going to need a LOT of steel (or, better yet, STAINLESS
>> steel) line (brake, hydraulic, gas, etc.) replacements. Have you -- or
>> anyone else -- acquired the tools for bending and double flaring steel (or
>> stainless) to allow you to form and flare your own lines from bulk material.
>> If so, how big a pain was it to learn the tricks to satisfactorily do this?
>> Is it REALLY aa "black art" better left to an "expert?" If it's NOT a black
>> art, the cost of the tools and fixtures MAY quickly evaporate when measured
>> against purchasing already made up lines. In the alternative, perhaps one
>> of you can steer me to one of the competent and reputable GMC suppliers in
>> here who doesn't want one's first born for these items in a ready-to-use
form?
>>
>> Looking forward to your continued input (and that of others who have been
>> there, done that).
>> Dick
>>

>> >Check the motor mounts! If you replace the Radiator leave off the oil
>> >cooler at the bottom. Just have it removed. Add auxiliary oil cooler,
>> >transmission cooler. If you don't do this then change the hoses at a
>> >minimum and re route them away from the exhaust manifold on the right
>> >side. Clean the recovery tank and replace the lines. Be careful. This
>> >thing will crack easily. Be sure to add a screen mesh cover about 1/4
>> >size squares to the bottom to protect the two coolers. If you are
>> >interested in more air to the carburetor you should consider "RAM AIR"
>> >this can be accomplished by adding air scoop at the grill area and
>> >connecting it to the air intake of the carburetor's air cleaner. Change
>> >the air cleaner out to a K and N (reusable). While all this is undone,
>> >check to see if your battery cable has been damaged or the plastic
>> >protection covering needs to be put on or replaced. This cable runs
>> >across the front of your radiator at the bottom. If you take the
>> >radiator out you will need to remove the grill. VERY CAREFULLY. Then
>> >make a piece to attach to each side of the two fenders to assist in
>> >holding the grill stable. This is a weak place on the front of the
>> >GMC. If you take the radiator out it comes straight down not too much
>> >trouble, I used a small floor jack. The coach must be on JACK STANDS
>> >about 24 inches up. Check the battery compartment in the front. If you
>> >are going to change out this arrangement make the parts up and have them
>> >ready to install. Mine are made of 1/4 inch thick steel. They can be
>> >dropped from the bottom. The bolts to secure the battery are also
>> >welded to the sides instead of moveable. The top is moveable and it is
>> >much easier. Don't forget to put in holes for drips, either a wooden
>> >floor or fiberglass the entire thing with the resin. I think that is
>> >all for this area. Chuck
>> >
>> >
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Tom & Marg Warner
Vernon Center NY
1976 palmbeach
 
Just a thought on the additional a/c's running off of the coach compressor,
what about the limo's from Cadillac, etc. Do I remember correctly that they
had an additional air unit for the back seat area mounted in the trunk?
Will check with the junk yard dogs and see if they are available.

Roger
 
A lot of Ford econolines have them.

>In a message dated 4/11/99 2:30:21 PM Central Daylight Time,

>
> had an additional air unit for the back seat area mounted in the trunk?
> Will check with the junk yard dogs and see if they are available.
>
> >>
>And what about some of the Suburbans and vans with back seat air?
>
>
Tom & Marg Warner
Vernon Center NY
1976 palmbeach
 
>>> had an additional air unit for the back seat area mounted in the trunk?

>>And what about some of the Suburbans and vans with back seat air?

>Tom & Marg Warner
>Vernon Center NY
>1976 palmbeach

My '92 Astro Van has back seat air as well as front seat air.
 
Talked to a good GMC friend, who is shown on the cover of the Jan motorhome
mag. He told me he put in a separate unit in the coach, and bought it from a
company in Goshen In, called Acme. Looked up the address and 219-534-1516. He
bought one new and had it installed. He did the whole thing including the new
compressor and new A/C gas. He love it and it works great for the back of the
coach. Am thinking of calling them. The unit is for the back of vans etc and
will work off engine.
al

> Just a thought on the additional a/c's running off of the coach compressor,
> what about the limo's from Cadillac, etc. Do I remember correctly that they
> had an additional air unit for the back seat area mounted in the trunk?
> Will check with the junk yard dogs and see if they are available.
>
> Roger
 
Arild...

> My '92 Astro Van has back seat air as well as front seat air.

How would I spot an Astro Van like yours in a junk yard that had a back
seat air unit. What distinguishing characteristics would quickly point
one out to me.

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"I do whatever my Rice Krispies tell me to..." John said.
 
>
> Arild...
>
> > My '92 Astro Van has back seat air as well as front seat air.
>
> How would I spot an Astro Van like yours in a junk yard that had a back
> seat air unit. What distinguishing characteristics would quickly point
> one out to me.

The ductwork and outlets in the Astro(and GMC Safari) is just in front
of the rear(tailgate) doors.

Patrick
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