Do we need a spare tire?

Kelly,

http://www.appliedgmc.com/

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808


-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of kelly stockwell
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 10:34 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Do we need a spare tire?

OK, I may have hijacked this thread.

So, please give me the part name where to get an alternator and a starter. I'll order these right away.

My water pump was done a few years ago by the PO

thanks all!

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Kelly,

I (and everybody else knew that) but I couldn't resist "having you on" as we say Downunder. :-)

Nah, only difference is we don't have turkey dinners at Christmas, we have BBQ's.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808


-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of kelly stockwell
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 10:33 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Do we need a spare tire?

Maybe that's how they do it in Australia...

Yup I meant week.

> Kelly,
>
> Last time I checked a calendar there were 12 months in a year? :)
>
> There are, however, 52 weeks so your tire was manufactured the 35th week of 2012 or
>
> Week 35 August 27, 2012 September 2, 2012
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of kelly stockwell
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 4:54 PM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Do we need a spare tire?
>
> date stamp 3512
> so, 35th month of 2012? It's the 16.5" steel, all the other are Al. It looks ok on the sidewall, the tread is covered with
metal.
> There's a bike
> rack hooked up to it. Think that's "new enough" to get me somewhere safe?
>
> Excellent idea on jacking it up with flat tires at home. I'm sure I can get enough cursing there. I see Jim K sells a lowboy
> bottle jack, I could
> also get a hefty scissor jack for 3 tons (is that all I need if I'm not climbing under it?)
>
> This group has been fantastic, and I appreciate all the thoughtful replies even if you all thought I was being crazy.
>
> kelly
>
>
>
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From: Gmclist on behalf of Rob Mueller
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 11:20
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Do we need a spare tire?

Kelly,

I (and everybody else knew that) but I couldn't resist "having you on" as we say Downunder. :-)

Nah, only difference is we don't have turkey dinners at Christmas, we have BBQ's.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808

-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of kelly stockwell
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 10:33 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Do we need a spare tire?

Maybe that's how they do it in Australia...

Yup I meant week.

> Kelly,
>
> Last time I checked a calendar there were 12 months in a year? :)
>
> There are, however, 52 weeks so your tire was manufactured the 35th week of 2012 or
>
> Week 35 August 27, 2012 September 2, 2012
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of kelly stockwell
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 4:54 PM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Do we need a spare tire?
>
> date stamp 3512
> so, 35th month of 2012? It's the 16.5" steel, all the other are Al. It looks ok on the sidewall, the tread is covered with
metal.
> There's a bike
> rack hooked up to it. Think that's "new enough" to get me somewhere safe?
>
> Excellent idea on jacking it up with flat tires at home. I'm sure I can get enough cursing there. I see Jim K sells a lowboy
> bottle jack, I could
> also get a hefty scissor jack for 3 tons (is that all I need if I'm not climbing under it?)
>
> This group has been fantastic, and I appreciate all the thoughtful replies even if you all thought I was being crazy.
>
> kelly
>
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I should try to make a rally sometime; I usually have all my time off spoken for at music festivals.
thanks all!

> > date stamp 3512
> > so, 35th month of 2012? It's the 16.5" steel, all the other are Al. It looks ok on the sidewall, the tread is covered with metal. There's a
> > bike rack hooked up to it. Think that's "new enough" to get me somewhere safe?
> >
> > Excellent idea on jacking it up with flat tires at home. I'm sure I can get enough cursing there. I see Jim K sells a lowboy bottle jack, I
> > could also get a hefty scissor jack for 3 tons (is that all I need if I'm not climbing under it?)
> >
> > This group has been fantastic, and I appreciate all the thoughtful replies even if you all thought I was being crazy.
> >
> > kelly
>
> Kelly,
>
> Did you hear someone laughing??
> Nobody here is less crazy than you are......
>
> The real trick on trying out the jack at home is that if you can't make it work, it is not a bad place to be stuck....
> I tried a 3 ton (iirc) scissor jack, and it could not get it to even start lifting the coach.
>
> The real reason for carrying a starter is that our starter is only for our transmission and as of this year, it has been out of production for 40
> years. Yes, they can be rebuilt easily, but only if you can find the place to do it.
>
> There is a second reason I don't carry much in spares. We have a 23' coach and I can't get it in my barn with a pod on the roof.
>
> The last of my 16.5s came off at a little over 8 years old. If it has been out of the sun (according to Roger Marble, it is the heat not the UV
> that gets them), it should be a reliable spare for a few more years.
>
> Any chance you can make Amana?
>
> Matt

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found some existing spare tire mount ideas that could be replicated or used.

this one looks best: (link to .pdf file) http://www.roadmasterinc.com/pdf/mm_article_oct_2015.pdf

but this: http://www.ezee-lift.net/

and this: https://parts.pjtrailers.com/spare-tire-hoist-winch-cable-160434.html

could be combined to make it easy.

my idea is a four bar lever set up that would allow the tire to tilt out down to the bumper level then have a slide set-up to somehow slide the
tire/wheel down to the ground from where the lever bars stop at the bumper.

another idea I had was a swing away deal like on a van back door then tilt down to ground after swinging it out.

there is probably something else already make that would need very little mods to it, if any.
 
> I've not had an alternator failure yet. I did replace the one I had previously when I did my engine R&R some years ago just because the old one
> was already out. I also replaced the power steering pump at the same time of the engine R&R.
>
> I think I will start carrying a spare alternator to go along with the spare starter I carry. That seems like cheap insurance to avoid being out
> of business for an extended time as these components become more difficult to buy on short notice.
>
> I wonder if I should also carry a water pump? Mine has over 50,000 miles on it now.

Richard,

The starter is an issue because it was not widely used (our particular version is for the 425 trans only), but both the alternator and the water pump
were widely used for lots of years after us.
The difference with the alternator is that it is a truck part. (Two pivot feet instead of one big pivot foot.) and the water pump is less different.
The new part that Tom Pryor has brought up has the bigger impellor and a better bearing. Were I you, I would not worry about that one until fall at
the earliest. Mine was the standard car part and it went 75K over 22 years.

Matt - wishing you many boring miles of driving
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I have had four tires blow out over the last 30 years. All drivers side middle or rear wheel.
I wouldn't leave my driveway without a spare.
Bob Gogan
 
Fred,
I did a bit of research and came across several designs as well. The first one you refer to is a good design as it keeps the tire in the upright position, which allows you to Manipulate the tire without any additional lifting.

My problem with most articulating tire mounts is that they were designed to be used in a receiver hitch. To be ideal on a GMC, it should mount to the frame in a similar fashion to the original tire mount. If we do this, then none of the available tire racks will articulate down far enough to rest the tire on the ground due to bumper interference. I have a few ideas now on how to overcome this obstacle, and will work out the details in my spare time. If my idea works, I’ll share it here for some feedback.

Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'

>
> I have had four tires blow out over the last 30 years. All drivers side middle or rear wheel.
> I wouldn't leave my driveway without a spare.
> Bob Gogan
>
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