Caddy NORTHSTAR powered -GMC/MH---is it possible/feasable

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Hi all

I've always been impressed with the Cadillac NORTHSTAR
engine technology. Now that the engine has been
around for a few years -- since '91 (not sure) - it
seems to me that some of the Caddy NORTHSTARs that are
involved in traffic accidents may start appearing in
our local Salvage yards. We have a number of
"YOU-PULL-IT" yards here in Florida. They have a firm
price list for almost every part - ( no matter what
year or what type car) -- Engines are ALL-169.99 with
a $35 core -- automatic Transmissions 4WD W/OD
ALL-$99.99 & $15 core

WHAT IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT A CADDY NORTHSTAR ENGINE
AND TRANSMISSION COULD BE USED IN OUR GMC M/H.

Here are the specs --

'73 455 OLDS -- 250 HP @ 4000rpms
374 FT/LBS torque @ 2800 rpm
455 Cu In Disp
3:07 Final gear

NORTHSTAR -- 300 HP @ 6000 rpms
295 Ft/Lbs Torque @ 4400 rpms
279 Cu In Disp
3:71 final gear (electronic 4 speed
(transmission 4T80-E
w/ P225/60 R16 tires

WELL what do you think -- could this be my new --NEXT
PROJECT ???

All ideas and comments wellcome --


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actually they are showing up in hot rods, ie. HOT ROD MAG.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Papas
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: GMC: Caddy NORTHSTAR powered -GMC/MH---is it possible/feasable

>
> Hi all
>
> I've always been impressed with the Cadillac NORTHSTAR
> engine technology. Now that the engine has been
> around for a few years -- since '91 (not sure) - it
> seems to me that some of the Caddy NORTHSTARs that are
> involved in traffic accidents may start appearing in
> our local Salvage yards. We have a number of
> "YOU-PULL-IT" yards here in Florida. They have a firm
> price list for almost every part - ( no matter what
> year or what type car) -- Engines are ALL-169.99 with
> a $35 core -- automatic Transmissions 4WD W/OD
> ALL-$99.99 & $15 core
>
> WHAT IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT A CADDY NORTHSTAR ENGINE
> AND TRANSMISSION COULD BE USED IN OUR GMC M/H.
>
> Here are the specs --
>
> '73 455 OLDS -- 250 HP @ 4000rpms
> 374 FT/LBS torque @ 2800 rpm
> 455 Cu In Disp
> 3:07 Final gear
>
> NORTHSTAR -- 300 HP @ 6000 rpms
> 295 Ft/Lbs Torque @ 4400 rpms
> 279 Cu In Disp
> 3:71 final gear (electronic 4 speed
> (transmission 4T80-E
> w/ P225/60 R16 tires
>
> WELL what do you think -- could this be my new --NEXT
> PROJECT ???
>
> All ideas and comments wellcome --
>
>
> ===
> Pete Papas-->http://members.tripod.com/~mehawk_ii/index.html
> . ___________ (MY TOYS) (904)672-0571
> ./_][__][] []| 1973 GMC M/H 1976 Bi-Centennial Harley M/C
> .*O-------OO-* Painted Desert 1979 280ZX Datsun (1 of 1000)
> _________________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
 
It's certainly a technological marvel! Pretty, too.

I changed the water pump belt on my wife's baby Northstar yesterday, in a
'95 Olds Aurora. ( ~240cid , 250 hp ) Crazy thing! The water pump drives
off the forward inner camshaft! (there's 4 cams ya know) It uses a little
$7.00 belt with it's own tensioner. Piece o cake.

I'd love to see one of these stuffed into the front end of a GMC motorhome.
I'd be concerned about keeping up the rpm to provide the horses though.
Sure not much torque available without the revs. Torque's hard to come by
with a short stroker but it sure would be pretty under the hatch. Maybe
it'd be more feasible with a 6 speed tranny.

Go for it Pete!

bdub
76 Palm Beach

>
>Hi all
>
>I've always been impressed with the Cadillac NORTHSTAR
>engine technology. Now that the engine has been
>around for a few years -- since '91 (not sure) - it
>seems to me that some of the Caddy NORTHSTARs that are
>involved in traffic accidents may start appearing in
>our local Salvage yards. We have a number of
>"YOU-PULL-IT" yards here in Florida. They have a firm
>price list for almost every part - ( no matter what
>year or what type car) -- Engines are ALL-169.99 with
>a $35 core -- automatic Transmissions 4WD W/OD
>ALL-$99.99 & $15 core
>
>WHAT IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT A CADDY NORTHSTAR ENGINE
>AND TRANSMISSION COULD BE USED IN OUR GMC M/H.
>
>Here are the specs --
>
>'73 455 OLDS -- 250 HP @ 4000rpms
> 374 FT/LBS torque @ 2800 rpm
> 455 Cu In Disp
> 3:07 Final gear
>
>NORTHSTAR -- 300 HP @ 6000 rpms
> 295 Ft/Lbs Torque @ 4400 rpms
> 279 Cu In Disp
> 3:71 final gear (electronic 4 speed
> (transmission 4T80-E
> w/ P225/60 R16 tires
>
>WELL what do you think -- could this be my new --NEXT
>PROJECT ???
>
>All ideas and comments wellcome --
>
>
>===
>Pete Papas-->http://members.tripod.com/~mehawk_ii/index.html
>. ___________ (MY TOYS) (904)672-0571
>./_][__][] []| 1973 GMC M/H 1976 Bi-Centennial Harley M/C
>.*O-------OO-* Painted Desert 1979 280ZX Datsun (1 of 1000)
>_________________________________________________________
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
 
It's certainly a technological marvel! Pretty, too.

I changed the water pump belt on my wife's baby Northstar yesterday, in a
'95 Olds Aurora. ( ~240cid , 250 hp ) Crazy thing! The water pump drives
off the forward inner camshaft! (there's 4 cams ya know) It uses a little
$7.00 belt with it's own tensioner. Piece o cake.

I'd love to see one of these stuffed into the front end of a GMC motorhome.
I'd be concerned about keeping up the rpm to provide the horses though.
Sure not much torque available without the revs. Torque's hard to come by
with a short stroker but it sure would be pretty under the hatch. Maybe
it'd be more feasible with a 6 speed tranny.

Go for it Pete!

bdub
76 Palm Beach

>
>Hi all
>
>I've always been impressed with the Cadillac NORTHSTAR
>engine technology. Now that the engine has been
>around for a few years -- since '91 (not sure) - it
>seems to me that some of the Caddy NORTHSTARs that are
>involved in traffic accidents may start appearing in
>our local Salvage yards. We have a number of
>"YOU-PULL-IT" yards here in Florida. They have a firm
>price list for almost every part - ( no matter what
>year or what type car) -- Engines are ALL-169.99 with
>a $35 core -- automatic Transmissions 4WD W/OD
>ALL-$99.99 & $15 core
>
>WHAT IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT A CADDY NORTHSTAR ENGINE
>AND TRANSMISSION COULD BE USED IN OUR GMC M/H.
>
>Here are the specs --
>
>'73 455 OLDS -- 250 HP @ 4000rpms
> 374 FT/LBS torque @ 2800 rpm
> 455 Cu In Disp
> 3:07 Final gear
>
>NORTHSTAR -- 300 HP @ 6000 rpms
> 295 Ft/Lbs Torque @ 4400 rpms
> 279 Cu In Disp
> 3:71 final gear (electronic 4 speed
> (transmission 4T80-E
> w/ P225/60 R16 tires
>
>WELL what do you think -- could this be my new --NEXT
>PROJECT ???
>
>All ideas and comments wellcome --
>
>
>===
>Pete Papas-->http://members.tripod.com/~mehawk_ii/index.html
>. ___________ (MY TOYS) (904)672-0571
>./_][__][] []| 1973 GMC M/H 1976 Bi-Centennial Harley M/C
>.*O-------OO-* Painted Desert 1979 280ZX Datsun (1 of 1000)
>_________________________________________________________
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
 
Bill

The new 99 Olds Intrigue has a V-6 Version of the NorthStar that is referred
to as the ShortStar... It is a 3.5 litre engine

Mike Linderman
76 Eleganza II
Ft Wayne Indiana
 
Hay Arch; its me; Yoogeebear who was at AOL since 1994. Jumped on board
about the same time you did on GMCMotorhome.com. Took a break, am back for
a while, to see if there are any new idea's....am leaving for Grand View
Texas friday morning in my "white"75 GlenBrook; to install another I-beam
Plant for Universal Forest Products.. Taken one of my Pentiums with, but
don't know if they have phones down there...ha ha.
I see your still pushen the mouse around.
Later Jim
- ----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: GMC: Caddy NORTHSTAR powered -GMC/MH---is it possible/feasable

> In a message dated 7/27/99 11:43:11 PM Central Daylight Time,

>
> >
> > actually they are showing up in hot rods, ie. HOT ROD MAG.
> >
> James
>
> Wow another free thinker----welcome aboard. Dont know much about
> this engine. Right now my thoughts are that with GMCers using the
> 455 and a lot of boaters using them ---there should still be parts for
> a while. Dont know about Caddy engine. This is NOT a put down
> of an idea ---Just a thought. I want all of the other Northstar stuff.
>
> Take Care
> Arch
 
Has anyone considered a relatively new Chevy 454 used in trucks or tow
vehicles? Seems a good way to get new electronics with big cubes. Hookup
to tranny possible without adapters?

Roger
 
rigth now chev vortex 454CI 425 HP new engines in the crates are $3974 at GM
Parts warehouse 1-800-748-3791 or www.paceparts.com

>Roger:
>
>Don Bolles had Buskirks install a Chevy Vortec engine in his coach back in
>early 1996. Last I new, it was a $8-10,000 job. Anything's possible if you
>want to pay for it.
>
> Paul Bartz
>
>From: Roger Black [mailto:rblack]
>Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 1:06 PM
>Subject: Re: GMC: Caddy NORTHSTAR powered -GMC/MH---is it
>possible/feasable
>
>Has anyone considered a relatively new Chevy 454 used in trucks or tow
>vehicles? Seems a good way to get new electronics with big cubes. Hookup
>to tranny possible without adapters?
>
>
>
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gmcmotorhome
> [mailto:owner-gmcmotorhome]On Behalf Of Roger Black
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 12:06 PM
> To: gmcmotorhome
> Subject: Re: GMC: Caddy NORTHSTAR powered -GMC/MH---is it
> possible/feasable
>
>
> Has anyone considered a relatively new Chevy 454 used in trucks or tow
> vehicles? Seems a good way to get new electronics with big cubes. Hookup
> to tranny possible without adapters?
>
> Roger
>
> how about the diesel?
 
While the diesel does show higher torque at a lower rpm, I never have
appreciated the shake, rattle, and roll of a diesel. Not to mention the
fuel messes. The 454 does show a greater torque but at a slightly higher
rpm than the Olds 455. That probably could be addressed with different cam,
etc. One thing though, NOTHING BEATS CUBES. These engines ought to be out
there in the local junk yards in beat up Surburbans.

Roger
 
Yea nothing beats cubes!!! got a 454 in garage in my 74 stepside(another
project maybe, its all piling up on the to do list and I just moved here).
You know my buddy had a 74 with a 350 init we took about a 200 mile trip, he
used alot more gas than I did and he couldn't stay close to me if I didn't
want him too. Just my info on cubes. Might use alittle more oil but I love
em!!

Ron&Gina
73 Pumpkin-Rose
Ft. Mohave, AZ.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Black
To:
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: GMC: Caddy NORTHSTAR powered -GMC/MH---is it possible/feasable

> While the diesel does show higher torque at a lower rpm, I never have
> appreciated the shake, rattle, and roll of a diesel. Not to mention the
> fuel messes. The 454 does show a greater torque but at a slightly higher
> rpm than the Olds 455. That probably could be addressed with different
cam,
> etc. One thing though, NOTHING BEATS CUBES. These engines ought to be
out
> there in the local junk yards in beat up Surburbans.
>
> Roger
>
 
Be aware that Buskirk's if assembling a GMC with a Chevy 502/450hp for a
customer at this time. They have it on there web site at: http://www.buskirk-rushrv.com/Chambers/pic3/pic-3.htm

J.R. Wright

>
> Has anyone considered a relatively new Chevy 454 used in trucks or tow
> vehicles? Seems a good way to get new electronics with big cubes. Hookup
> to tranny possible without adapters?
>
> Roger
 
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