1978 Royale Update and Restoration

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Added some new headlights today. I can't stand sealed beams... There is so much better technology available today.

First off, I wanted to do LED. However, I can't stand the look of most of them, and aftermarket designs generally perform as bad as they look. That leaves me with trying to integrate an LED housing from a wrangler... Have you priced them lately? Yeah, I have other things to spend my money on. Plus, while they look and perform better than aftermarket, they still don't match the aesthetic of a 78 motorhome.

That leaves me with an H4 ecode housing upgrade. I'm familiar with that process as I did it to my 04 wrangler, with outstanding results. That was set up with Cibie housings, a custom built (by me) relay harness, and Phillips 130% 60/55 watt lamps. That project cost me about 200 bucks and a full Saturday's work.

I planned on doing the same to the motorhome. But as I was reading the other forum I'm on for my wranglers, someone posted about a H4 kit Toyota is selling for the land cruiser. Shipped to my house, it was less than 60 dollars from the dealer!

It includes Koito lenses (the best of the best), bulbs, and a nicely assembled and weatherproofed relay harness. For what it's worth, Daniel Stern lighting sells the Koito housings for 180 a pair... Just for housings! I think Toyota has a glitch in their pricing model... So if you're thinking of doing this, I'd recommend doing it NOW!

Her are a few pics of the kit.

Part number

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Housing and lens. Notice the nice rubber boot that slides over the bulb, More on that later.

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The relay harness. Includes (2) 20 Amp ATC style Blade fuses and holders (the blue things) and nice relays, holders, and clip mounts. The wire crimps are fantastic, the bulb sockets look very good, and they even included a tube of Dielectric to glob on all the connections. The only modification I needed to make was the positive power ring terminal was not large enough for the positive terminal lug, so I had to cut that off and install a larger one.
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Remember the rubber boots? They don't fit in the headlight buckets very well. I addressed that with my dremel tool and a mounted wheel. I removed a very slight amount of material from the buckets to get the housings to fit all the way down. I then cleaned em up and shot them with some rustoleum to protect the now exposed raw steel. That is the ONLY permanent modification I made to the coach.


Here are the headlights installed.

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And harness

Fuses and Relays are mounted high on the "panel"

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Extra wire was coiled and bundled. I zip tied it to a self adhesive cable anchor. The harness that runs to the driver's side was run along the top of the inside of the grill (right under the access doors) and held in place with more self-adhesive cable anchors.

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And finally, how the whole set-up works.
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You install a male connector to the existing harness. It now becomes a "signal" harness to trigger the relays. The headlights themselves get power directly from the battery (or the positive lug, in my case), through the relays, directly to the lights. The two circuits are fir High and Low Beam. This set-up minimizes voltage loss, and prevents high current from going through the dash system. If I get a wild hair, I'll be able to convert to a multi-function stalk with this arrangement and eliminate the high current switch that controls High Beams.

Note: I zip tied the connectors together so they can't come apart.

Ok, enough of the install...What do they look like? These pics are from my aiming session at work. Not the greatest to see what they look like in the wild, but you can see just how good these housings are. Pay attention to how sharp the cut-off is.


This is low beam and you aim the lights on low beams

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The bottom of the tape line on the wall is my vertical alignment guide. Notice the knife's edge cutoff. There is NO scatter beyond that cutoff point, which on-coming drivers will really appreciate. The trick with aiming headlights and getting light down the road is to aim them as high as possible without dazzling other drivers. The sharper the cutoff there, the higher you can go. The fact that these show a nearly horizontal line means I will have as much light as possible down road.

Here are the high beams
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I'll get some night pictures when I receive the last piece of the puzzle. These pics were taken with the "stock" 65/55 bulbs. My set of Phillips 130% bulbs will be here tomorrow. It is a much whiter light and should be quite a bit brighter (all the more reason to run a high quality lens).

If I missed something, ask questions...I am pretty passionate about this stuff because we have LOTS of critters running around at night where I live. I've been playing with it for quite a while now. I've modified the headlights on each of my cars for the last 15 years...except my wife's Audi with HID projectors. That has ridiculously good headlights.
 

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If I missed something, ask questions...I am pretty passionate about this stuff because we have LOTS of critters running around at night where I live. I've been playing with it for quite a while now. I've modified the headlights on each of my cars for the last 15 years...except my wife's Audi with HID projectors. That has ridiculously good headlights.
This is awesome, Mike. Thanks for all the details. I think I'll look for those right now--you sold me on several points.

Edit: I pulled the trigger. Hard to beat that performance for $60 I think, and it gives a guy the flexibility to play around with different bulbs in the future. Who knows, maybe someone will make a good, affordable LED H4 someday that fits.

Did you take any pics of the cutting you did on the bucket? That's the part of the install I'd be most curious to see.
 
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This is awesome, Mike. Thanks for all the details. I think I'll look for those right now--you sold me on several points.

Edit: I pulled the trigger. Hard to beat that performance for $60 I think, and it gives a guy the flexibility to play around with different bulbs in the future. Who knows, maybe someone will make a good, affordable LED H4 someday that fits.

Did you take any pics of the cutting you did on the bucket? That's the part of the install I'd be most curious to see.
No, I didn't. It's pretty simple though. You'll see when you get the housings. I pulled the buckets and used the Dremel to remove material until they fit... Less than 0.060" for sure. Just run the Dremel around the opening at a constant speed. You'll keep it pretty round. Remove some material, check, remove material, check, etc. The holes have a "key" opening in them too, with a sharp edge. I knocked that sharp edge down a bit. Once the bulk of the material has been removed, switch to your sanding drum to finish the edge. I'm my case, the sanding drum was of a larger diameter than the stone, so it worked to smooth out any places where the stone may have dug in. Clean up the burrs and paint.
 
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Mike,
That sure is a Cibie lens. I have been wanting Z-beams, but they are gone.

Just to be clear, you got lens and reflector sets with H4 bulbs and a harness all from Toyota?
Sounds great.

There is an LED headlight shoot out - real shoot out - someplace on the web. Yes, most LED headlights look funny.

Matt
 
Mike,
That sure is a Cibie lens. I have been wanting Z-beams, but they are gone.

Just to be clear, you got lens and reflector sets with H4 bulbs and a harness all from Toyota?
Sounds great.

There is an LED headlight shoot out - real shoot out - someplace on the web. Yes, most LED headlights look funny.

Matt
That is Correct. Lens/Housing Assembly, Bulbs, and a very complete harness all from Toyota. However, it is a Koito lens and housing, not Cibie. From what I'm seeing, the Koito is even better than the Cibie.
 
Mike,
One more question:
Where can one order that kit?
(And what do I need to know - if anything?)
Thanks again.
Matt
I just ordered from an online toyota dealership. All you really need is the part number. Its a retrofit kit for Toyota land cruisers (unlike Jeep, Toyota supports their enthusiasts). I'm sure if you're close to a dealer, you could walk in to the parts counter with that number (in the picture) and save yourself some shipping charges too!
 
I just ordered from an online toyota dealership. All you really need is the part number. Its a retrofit kit for Toyota land cruisers (unlike Jeep, Toyota supports their enthusiasts). I'm sure if you're close to a dealer, you could walk in to the parts counter with that number (in the picture) and save yourself some shipping charges too!
I looked into that. My local dealership quoted me ~$2 less than the shipped price from the Toyota of South Atlanta (they're discounting the kit currently). I bought them online, since the local dealership is in a part of town I don't care to venture into, nor am I a fan of waiting in line. There are also a few dealerships selling them on ebay, but as of last night, none were beating the $62.48 shipped price I got from GA.
https://onlineparts.toyotasouthatlanta.com/p/72018210/8111060P70.html

I should've just ordered a 2nd kit, since the kit itself was only $40. They do free shipping over $75, so I could've bought two for $80, costing me effectively $17.50 for the 2nd kit. Kinda kicking myself now. I don't NEED a 2nd kit, but I may have been able to hook up with someone local that could use one.
 
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US Toyota dealers won't ship to Canada, so I stopped in at my local dealer and he's going to see if he can get a set out of California to me for $65CAD. Parts guy was excited about getting a set for one of his toys too.
Thanks for the info.
I have a set of H4 Bosch, but these have relays and one clip is wonky on one of the Bosch lamps.
 
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I received my one ton kit from Manny today. The kit was well packaged. It weighs 345 pounds or something, so it comes in a crate and had to be shipped freight. Shipping from California to Michigan was pretty ridiculous, even though I'm able to deliver to my shop where I gave a hi-lo.

Anyway, I opened the crate tonight to check things out. Pleasantly surprised with the lower control arms. The welds look very good and they are really clean. The uppers are a bit rusty, but very solid... About the same as what I'll pull off my coach. Manny presses in all new bushings and installs new ball joints as well. The kit is very complete. I think in the instructions on machines of loving grace Karen mentions needing calipers, pads, and some other miscellaneous parts. All that stuff is included with my kit.

The knuckles are HUGE. They look brand new. The calipers are also very large and correspond with the 12" rotors. I think I'm looking forward to the additional stopping power most of all. Hopefully the extra fluid required to actuate the larger Pistons doesn't add too much pedal travel.

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Hey All

Going to use this and my website (linked in my Sig) to post the progress of my 1978 Royale Twin Bed. Its what Jim Bounds would call a survivor, I believe. Its in very good shape, and was being used right up until we bought it. The house part of the coach is very nice. Its clean and usable right from the word go. My wife has more modern tastes though, so we will be giving the interior a refresh. That is the "update" part of the title.

The restoration part of the title comes in here. The gentleman we bought it from only drove it 75'ish miles to camp at the beginning of summer and 75'ish miles home in the fall for the last few years. I don't think he did anything mechanically to the coach to maintain the drivetrain. When we bought it, we knew it had an exhaust manifold leak and needed tires (they were from 2004). The guy seemed to know his stuff, the rest of the coach was so nice and clean, I assumed the engine would have been maintained as well. It ran good and shame on me for not giving it a better look.

We made a deal (I still feel like I got a good deal) and drove it home. The coolant light started flickering about 6 miles from his house, but it went away when I turned the heat on. I limped it to the highway rest stop about 12 miles from his house. By that time, the coolant light was on solid. I was thinking to myself..."what did I just buy?" I started checking it over, and noticed the overflow bottle was completely empty. So, we let it cool down and I popped the Radiator cap. It was low. I added about a gallon and a half of water to fill both the radiator and the overflow. I asked my wife, who was following behind, "Was it blowing white smoke?" She said it wasn't. Weird. Anyway, we decided to press on. Took the back roads home and made it with no problems. 70 uneventful miles. Steering is much less precise than I'd like, so add that to the list, but she ran down the road with no issues. Brakes feel good, tracks straight, she's quiet, Drives nice.

As far as upgrades done over the years, you can see the Alcoas. Also has a Ragusa entrance step, Ramco Mirrors with blinkers (no power adjustment though), wind wings with screens, a full curtain set for the windshield, new water heater, LCD TV, Stainless Oil cooler lines, 4 wheel disks, New last year ZipDee Awning and a brand new (like within the last 3 months) water heater.

Here is our ol' Lady.
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Hi Mike.
You say that the awning is circa 2018/relatively new? I am looking for an awning for my 26 ft coach and my wife wants that exact fabric. I looked at the ZipDee website for their fabric choices and do not see that pattern. I am interested in a CareFree of Colorado model, and they have been great about sending samples. But they don't have that pattern in stock.

Did you get any records with your coach - if so, do you have anything on that awning? If you have anything on it, I would very much appreciate a PM with the info about it's fabric.
Regards,
 
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Last summer I noticed a clicking in tight turns. Classic symptom of failing CV joints. So, I rebuilt one of them, and noticed they were still clicking... And that the upper control arm bushings were shot, the shocks were garbage and I wasn't sure what condition the wheel bearings were in.

Upper control arm bushings...

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After a lot of deliberation I decided to go to with the one ton kit. I'm a fan of unit bearings, which this kit provides. It also increases the diameter of the brake rotor and caliper (pics below). The ONLY non-factory part I need (that might need eventual replacement) is a longer axle, with standard CV ends for my MH. Everything else is pretty factory One Ton Pick-up. I looked into tracking down the junkyard parts myself and modifying my own control arms. Manny supplys a kit though, with the welding all done. Not that I am afraid of the welding, but it saves me a TON of time trying to fixture the arms to make sure the balljoint goes in the right spot. So...I took delivery of a heavy crate from California.

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This was back in August! I didn't want to tear it apart during Camping season, then we started a kitchen remodel...So I'm finally able to work on it. Last weekend, I worked on getting the old parts off. My MH is in very good shape so it was actually pretty easy. Plus it has a bunch of oil leaks and torn CV boots flinging grease all over. No rust, LOL.

Here is the frame

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I'll clean this up and spray a coat of paint on the rails. Probably pull the torsion bar, Anti-sway bar, and tie rods to clean them up and paint them too.


Here are the factory parts sitting next to the new One Ton stuff. The size difference is astonishing.

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and all the new parts for one side of the coach
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Now, all the removable parts are in my home shop (the coach is at my Folk's in storage). I have all new bushing and ball joints in the arms. I'll be cleaning them up and giving them a coat of KBS (like POR-15). The upper arms were small enough to fit in my blast cabinet, so that is done. The lower arms are actually really clean, so I'll prime the bare metal where the new balljoint mount was fabbed and scuff/paint the rest with some Chassis paint.

All the hardware odds and ends went into a bath of Evap-o-rust tonight. Some of the hardware is special and its still in good shape, so I'll get it all nice and clean then take it in for a Zinc Chromate treatment. It's only like 35 bucks a batch, so its a lot cheaper than buying new. And, again, they don't make the aftermarket stuff like the OE stuff. I wasn't sure what condition the hardware would be in, so I bought some new camber bolts. The stuff I got from Moog is garbage compared to what came OE. I'm going to model the cam adjuster and see what it would cost to manufacture them in my shop. I may have a new product offering coming soon.

Here is the hardware, in the tank. I still have one torsion bar "porkchop" to remove. It was the only thing corrosion seized in the whole front end. I spray it with Aero-Kroil and will go back later and drive the torsion bar out with a pneumatic hammer.

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Last summer I noticed a clicking in tight turns. Classic symptom of failing CV joints. So, I rebuilt one of them, and noticed they were still clicking... And that the upper control arm bushings were shot, the shocks were garbage and I wasn't sure what condition the wheel bearings were in.

Upper control arm bushings...

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After a lot of deliberation I decided to go to with the one ton kit. I'm a fan of unit bearings, which this kit provides. It also increases the diameter of the brake rotor and caliper (pics below). The ONLY non-factory part I need (that might need eventual replacement) is a longer axle, with standard CV ends for my MH. Everything else is pretty factory One Ton Pick-up. I looked into tracking down the junkyard parts myself and modifying my own control arms. Manny supplys a kit though, with the welding all done. Not that I am afraid of the welding, but it saves me a TON of time trying to fixture the arms to make sure the balljoint goes in the right spot. So...I took delivery of a heavy crate from California.

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This was back in August! I didn't want to tear it apart during Camping season, then we started a kitchen remodel...So I'm finally able to work on it. Last weekend, I worked on getting the old parts off. My MH is in very good shape so it was actually pretty easy. Plus it has a bunch of oil leaks and torn CV boots flinging grease all over. No rust, LOL.

Here is the frame

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I'll clean this up and spray a coat of paint on the rails. Probably pull the torsion bar, Anti-sway bar, and tie rods to clean them up and paint them too.


Here are the factory parts sitting next to the new One Ton stuff. The size difference is astonishing.

1644893275305.png



1644893288104.png



and all the new parts for one side of the coach
1644893856398.png


Now, all the removable parts are in my home shop (the coach is at my Folk's in storage). I have all new bushing and ball joints in the arms. I'll be cleaning them up and giving them a coat of KBS (like POR-15). The upper arms were small enough to fit in my blast cabinet, so that is done. The lower arms are actually really clean, so I'll prime the bare metal where the new balljoint mount was fabbed and scuff/paint the rest with some Chassis paint.

All the hardware odds and ends went into a bath of Evap-o-rust tonight. Some of the hardware is special and its still in good shape, so I'll get it all nice and clean then take it in for a Zinc Chromate treatment. It's only like 35 bucks a batch, so its a lot cheaper than buying new. And, again, they don't make the aftermarket stuff like the OE stuff. I wasn't sure what condition the hardware would be in, so I bought some new camber bolts. The stuff I got from Moog is garbage compared to what came OE. I'm going to model the cam adjuster and see what it would cost to manufacture them in my shop. I may have a new product offering coming soon.

Here is the hardware, in the tank. I still have one torsion bar "porkchop" to remove. It was the only thing corrosion seized in the whole front end. I spray it with Aero-Kroil and will go back later and drive the torsion bar out with a pneumatic hammer.

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Thanks for the detailed photos!
 
Mike,
As you are going to the 1-ton kit for the front, be sure to take care of the knuckles you have removed. Many of us are fine with the OE front and those knuckles would a wonderful to get a hold of if someone has a problem.
Matt
 
Mike,
As you are going to the 1-ton kit for the front, be sure to take care of the knuckles you have removed. Many of us are fine with the OE front and those knuckles would a wonderful to get a hold of if someone has a problem.
Matt
I have them set aside. Not sure what the best method would be to get them in the hands of the "needy". I thought about calling Dave Lenzie, but I'm not sure he's doing much work anymore.
 
Got the one ton front end installed a couple month ago and have been distracted.
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Last couple of weeks, I've been putting in some time to get my ride heights set properly and doing a decent alignment. My rear height was off and wasn't adjusting properly so I made a couple turnbuckles to replace the fixed length links on my electrolevel one. IMG_20220612_121832539.webp

Since I put new shocks up front, I wanted to replace the rears too. I also wanted to flush my brake fluid, because who knows when that was done last. Finally, I wanted to investigate the parking brake. I've been afraid to pull the handle...

I got the wheels off the driver's side and realized I have a whole bunch more work to do. I have a TSM MFG disc conversion (installed by a previous owner). It's not installed properly... So I need to go through the whole setup and make sure it's correct. IMG_20220612_132953947_HDR.webp
 
First, good news. I removed the upside downcaliper tonight and the mounting bracket was installed in the reverse orientation that it should have been. Flipping it over puts my caliper in a much better position, IMHO.

This is how it came to me. IMG_20220613_191009008.webp
I don't know enough about brake to know if the caliper position makes a difference, but it sure looks more natural once that bracket flips over.

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I also found out that my rear control arm is loose on the pin. Quite a bit of play... So I'll be replacing those. I suppose I should measure endplay based on the book (0.050" at the spindle), but I can almost guarantee I'll fail that test.

if I'm going to spend that money and have it all apart...I probably should replace air bags too. 800 for OEM or 1800 for quad bag. Decisions, decisions...

what would you do?
 
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First, good news. I removed the upside downcaliper tonight and the mounting bracket was installed in the reverse orientation that it should have been. Flipping it over puts my caliper in a much better position, IMHO.

This is how it came to me. View attachment 6326
I don't know enough about brake to know if the caliper position makes a difference, but it sure looks more natural once that bracket flips over.

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I also found out that my rear control arm is loose on the pin. Quite a bit of play... So I'll be replacing those. I suppose I should measure endplay based on the book (0.050" at the spindle), but I can almost guarantee I'll fail that test.

if I'm going to spend that money and have it all apart...I probably should replace air bags too. 800 for OEM or 1800 for quad bag. Decisions, decisions...

what would you do?
Stick with the OEM single bag style. Cinnabar has reproductions of the NLA OEM bag, or chose one of the other single bag versions. Only the Cinnabar bag has cone's on both ends.

My beef with the quad bag is it destroys the OEM design of transfer of road shock from one wheel to the opposite wheel and dynamic balancing of wheel loads. It transfers the road shock to the frame... I guess that's what they call a "firmer" ride.
Just my 2 cents
 
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