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OK. Got a budget. Buy 2 at a time. Someone not like how it looks. So what. Their issue. But this will get you into a much smoother ride in a few years. Besides. This will later keep your tire age out on a spaced out schedule. Bob Dunahugh 78 Royale
 
Exactly what I did.

Mac Macdonald in OKC
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OK. Got a budget. Buy 2 at a time. Someone not like how it looks. So what. Their issue. But this will get you into a much smoother ride in a few years. Besides. This will later keep your tire age out on a spaced out schedule. Bob Dunahugh 78 Royale
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Ok the 2 at a time sounds possible what are my chances at finding someone
to sell used 2 at a time and what would possibly be the cost for used

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 11:15 AM D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist <

> Exactly what I did.
>
> Mac Macdonald in OKC
> '76 ex - Palm Beach
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Feb 15, 2019, at 11:10, Bob Dunahugh via Gmclist <

>
> OK. Got a budget. Buy 2 at a time. Someone not like how it looks. So
> what. Their issue. But this will get you into a much smoother ride in a
> few years. Besides. This will later keep your tire age out on a spaced out
> schedule. Bob Dunahugh 78 Royale
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I realize this will sound like a smart A$$. The chances are great that you will find two used ones. Will they pass muster is the harder question.
and how long will it take to find 7 so you have a spare.
And when you do find them will they be true, or round or rusty, or whatever. if you have to blast them and powder coat or paint them thats an
additional hassle and cost. These will be used wheels possibly
from the 70s or 80s. If you find two used ones and pay to ship them and they turn out to be crap, that's a lot of wasted effort and money.
Is a seller of a used wheel for say 20 bucks going to accurately measure the backspacing and hub bore for you with a micrometer if they have one?

I scoured craigslist for the better part of a year and a half covering 20 states I normally visit and did not come up with any that looked decent
enough even through the pictures to
want to see them or to even make an offer.

Honestly your best bet would be buy two at a time or whatever new. Southwest wheel should be in business a while longer yet, and pick up the rest as
you can afford to.

Just my .02 from having been in that very situation.

--
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Mid Michigan
 
Whatta I care what it looks like, I'm inside. If you take this route and your spare is original, do the drive wheels last.

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oops my bad I should have said 2 used aluminum wheels at a time

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 5:44 PM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <

> Whatta I care what it looks like, I'm inside. If you take this route and
> your spare is original, do the drive wheels last.
>
> --johnny
> --
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> Braselton, Ga.
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Johnny B.:
Please explain why you would do the front drive wheels last. I want my best wheels and tires on the front drive wheels and as soon as possible.
In my opinion - a flat at the front could be life threatening whereas a flat at one of the rears may be expensive but not as disastrous to handling.
Am I wrong?
Mike/The Corvair a holic

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> Whatta I care what it looks like, I'm inside. If you take this route and your spare is original, do the drive wheels last.
>
> --johnny
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> Braselton, Ga.
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3 months ago. I sold a set of 6. Nice. 16.5 aged out tires. Mounted on bud rims off a GMC. For $85 each. For a total of $510. He needed them for an older Chevy 1 ton. My last set of aged out 16's. I got $75 each. This can take a nice chunk of pain out of replacing aged out tires. Remember. One man's junk. Is another man's treasure. Bob Dunahugh

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Subject: RE: 16" wheels.

OK. Got a budget. Buy 2 at a time. Someone not like how it looks. So what. Their issue. But this will get you into a much smoother ride in a few years. Besides. This will later keep your tire age out on a spaced out schedule. Bob Dunahugh 78 Royale
 
My 76 Palm Beach came with 16" steel rims and aged out tires. I replaced the tires and then bought Star XD aluminum wheels one pair every 6-8 weeks and Discount Tire swapped the new tires when the wheels came in. I ordered the wheels through the nearest Discount Tire. I sold the six steel rims to a local GMC owner for the price of one new aluminum wheel.

D C "Mac" Macdonald​
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Since 30 November '53​
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Member GMCMI & Classics​
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"The Money Pit"​
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'76 ex-Palm Beach​
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 16" wheels.

3 months ago. I sold a set of 6. Nice. 16.5 aged out tires. Mounted on bud rims off a GMC. For $85 each. For a total of $510. He needed them for an older Chevy 1 ton. My last set of aged out 16's. I got $75 each. This can take a nice chunk of pain out of replacing aged out tires. Remember. One man's junk. Is another man's treasure. Bob Dunahugh

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Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 11:09 AM
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Subject: RE: 16" wheels.

OK. Got a budget. Buy 2 at a time. Someone not like how it looks. So what. Their issue. But this will get you into a much smoother ride in a few years. Besides. This will later keep your tire age out on a spaced out schedule. Bob Dunahugh 78 Royale
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OK we have decided to go with the 2 at a time. (looking for used aluminum
wheels) but a few questions first. I would like to do the front first. I
don't think that should hurt but what about ride height will that be a
problem?
Next what am I looking for as far as (besides 16") all the dimensions bolt
pattern, hub size, width , and offset?
Then there is the size of the tires. Going from 16.5 to 16 will change the
rest of tire dimensions, also the load rating. I don't mind the next higher
load rating but that is no big deal as we have a transmode without the
kitchen, bath, etc. So the weight is way lower

Thanks for the help and the info from this site

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 9:52 PM D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist <

> My 76 Palm Beach came with 16" steel rims and aged out tires. I replaced
> the tires and then bought Star XD aluminum wheels one pair every 6-8 weeks
> and Discount Tire swapped the new tires when the wheels came in. I ordered
> the wheels through the nearest Discount Tire. I sold the six steel rims to
> a local GMC owner for the price of one new aluminum wheel.
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald​
> Amateur Radio K2GKK​
> Since 30 November '53​
> USAF and FAA, Retired​
> Member GMCMI & Classics​
> Oklahoma City, OK​
> "The Money Pit"​
> TZE166V101966​
> '76 ex-Palm Beach​
> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Bob Dunahugh
> via Gmclist
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 21:16
> To: gmclist
> Cc: Bob Dunahugh
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 16" wheels.
>
> 3 months ago. I sold a set of 6. Nice. 16.5 aged out tires. Mounted on bud
> rims off a GMC. For $85 each. For a total of $510. He needed them for an
> older Chevy 1 ton. My last set of aged out 16's. I got $75 each. This can
> take a nice chunk of pain out of replacing aged out tires. Remember. One
> man's junk. Is another man's treasure. Bob Dunahugh
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bob Dunahugh
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 11:09 AM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: RE: 16" wheels.
>
> OK. Got a budget. Buy 2 at a time. Someone not like how it looks. So
> what. Their issue. But this will get you into a much smoother ride in a
> few years. Besides. This will later keep your tire age out on a spaced out
> schedule. Bob Dunahugh 78 Royale
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Mike - you ain't wrong as far as it goes. BUT^. If you put 16s on the front but have a 16.5 spare, replacing a front flat means non - equal tires
side to side, which means the differential has to make the difference. It isn't really meant to do that on a longterm basis, particularly if you've a
limited slip. (If you've seen the Ratrod Toad, you noted two spares. This because the rear tyres are larger than the fronts and it's got a locker
rear end under it. Assymetric tires would probably tear it up fairly quickly.)

--johnny
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Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
 
Gene,
The difference between a 16.5” typically a 8.75-16.5E tire and a 16” LT 225/75R16E tire typically does not change the final drive ratio. The tires listed are the stock size that most use. You can go up to a 235 or 245 size tire but that affect your final drive ratio. Our coach has a 3.21 final drive with a 3.50 chain drive ratio which gives me a final drive ratio of 3.67 which I really like for travel our west. I have attached a file the is a guide to tire sizes and final drive ratios.

http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Brown_Drive_Tire_Ratios.pdf

JR Wright
GMC GreatLaker
GMC Eastern States
GMCMI
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan
On location in Tucson.

>
> OK we have decided to go with the 2 at a time. (looking for used aluminum
> wheels) but a few questions first. I would like to do the front first. I
> don't think that should hurt but what about ride height will that be a
> problem?
> Next what am I looking for as far as (besides 16") all the dimensions bolt
> pattern, hub size, width , and offset?
> Then there is the size of the tires. Going from 16.5 to 16 will change the
> rest of tire dimensions, also the load rating. I don't mind the next higher
> load rating but that is no big deal as we have a transmode without the
> kitchen, bath, etc. So the weight is way lower
>
> Thanks for the help and the info from this site
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 9:52 PM D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist <

>
 
16" wheels with the 225 series 16" tires will give you almost identical rolling circumference tires as the original 16.5" combination.

D C "Mac" Macdonald​
Amateur Radio K2GKK​
Since 30 November '53​
USAF and FAA, Retired​
Member GMCMI & Classics​
Oklahoma City, OK​
"The Money Pit"​
TZE166V101966​
'76 ex-Palm Beach​
k2gkk + hotmail dot com

________________________________
From: Gmclist on behalf of GENE KNUEPPEL via Gmclist
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 10:15
To: gmclist
Cc: GENE KNUEPPEL
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 16" wheels.

OK we have decided to go with the 2 at a time. (looking for used aluminum
wheels) but a few questions first. I would like to do the front first. I
don't think that should hurt but what about ride height will that be a
problem?
Next what am I looking for as far as (besides 16") all the dimensions bolt
pattern, hub size, width , and offset?
Then there is the size of the tires. Going from 16.5 to 16 will change the
rest of tire dimensions, also the load rating. I don't mind the next higher
load rating but that is no big deal as we have a transmode without the
kitchen, bath, etc. So the weight is way lower

Thanks for the help and the info from this site

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 9:52 PM D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist <

> My 76 Palm Beach came with 16" steel rims and aged out tires. I replaced
> the tires and then bought Star XD aluminum wheels one pair every 6-8 weeks
> and Discount Tire swapped the new tires when the wheels came in. I ordered
> the wheels through the nearest Discount Tire. I sold the six steel rims to
> a local GMC owner for the price of one new aluminum wheel.
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald​
> Amateur Radio K2GKK​
> Since 30 November '53​
> USAF and FAA, Retired​
> Member GMCMI & Classics​
> Oklahoma City, OK​
> "The Money Pit"​
> TZE166V101966​
> '76 ex-Palm Beach​
> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Bob Dunahugh
> via Gmclist
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 21:16
> To: gmclist
> Cc: Bob Dunahugh
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 16" wheels.
>
> 3 months ago. I sold a set of 6. Nice. 16.5 aged out tires. Mounted on bud
> rims off a GMC. For $85 each. For a total of $510. He needed them for an
> older Chevy 1 ton. My last set of aged out 16's. I got $75 each. This can
> take a nice chunk of pain out of replacing aged out tires. Remember. One
> man's junk. Is another man's treasure. Bob Dunahugh
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bob Dunahugh
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 11:09 AM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: RE: 16" wheels.
>
> OK. Got a budget. Buy 2 at a time. Someone not like how it looks. So
> what. Their issue. But this will get you into a much smoother ride in a
> few years. Besides. This will later keep your tire age out on a spaced out
> schedule. Bob Dunahugh 78 Royale
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When I changed from 16-1/2” to 16” wheels my speedometer was only 1 or 2 mph off.
When I went to a 3.55-1 final drive I got an in line speedometer correction device that put my speed right on.

Emery Stora

>
> 16" wheels with the 225 series 16" tires will give you almost identical rolling circumference tires as the original 16.5" combination.
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald​
> Amateur Radio K2GKK​
> Since 30 November '53​
> USAF and FAA, Retired​
> Member GMCMI & Classics​
> Oklahoma City, OK​
> "The Money Pit"​
> TZE166V101966​
> '76 ex-Palm Beach​
> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of GENE KNUEPPEL via Gmclist
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 10:15
> To: gmclist
> Cc: GENE KNUEPPEL
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 16" wheels.
>
> OK we have decided to go with the 2 at a time. (looking for used aluminum
> wheels) but a few questions first. I would like to do the front first. I
> don't think that should hurt but what about ride height will that be a
> problem?
> Next what am I looking for as far as (besides 16") all the dimensions bolt
> pattern, hub size, width , and offset?
> Then there is the size of the tires. Going from 16.5 to 16 will change the
> rest of tire dimensions, also the load rating. I don't mind the next higher
> load rating but that is no big deal as we have a transmode without the
> kitchen, bath, etc. So the weight is way lower
>
> Thanks for the help and the info from this site
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 9:52 PM D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist <

>
>> My 76 Palm Beach came with 16" steel rims and aged out tires. I replaced
>> the tires and then bought Star XD aluminum wheels one pair every 6-8 weeks
>> and Discount Tire swapped the new tires when the wheels came in. I ordered
>> the wheels through the nearest Discount Tire. I sold the six steel rims to
>> a local GMC owner for the price of one new aluminum wheel.
>>
>> D C "Mac" Macdonald​
>> Amateur Radio K2GKK​
>> Since 30 November '53​
>> USAF and FAA, Retired​
>> Member GMCMI & Classics​
>> Oklahoma City, OK​
>> "The Money Pit"​
>> TZE166V101966​
>> '76 ex-Palm Beach​
>> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Gmclist on behalf of Bob Dunahugh
>> via Gmclist
>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 21:16
>> To: gmclist
>> Cc: Bob Dunahugh
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 16" wheels.
>>
>> 3 months ago. I sold a set of 6. Nice. 16.5 aged out tires. Mounted on bud
>> rims off a GMC. For $85 each. For a total of $510. He needed them for an
>> older Chevy 1 ton. My last set of aged out 16's. I got $75 each. This can
>> take a nice chunk of pain out of replacing aged out tires. Remember. One
>> man's junk. Is another man's treasure. Bob Dunahugh
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Bob Dunahugh
>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 11:09 AM
>> To: gmclist
>> Subject: RE: 16" wheels.
>>
>> OK. Got a budget. Buy 2 at a time. Someone not like how it looks. So
>> what. Their issue. But this will get you into a much smoother ride in a
>> few years. Besides. This will later keep your tire age out on a spaced out
>> schedule. Bob Dunahugh 78 Royale
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To add to your discussion, the 16" steel GMC rims will not allow you to go to 80mm calipers without some metal trimming on the caliper. 16" Alcoa's
and 16" Americdan Eagles will clear the 80mm.
Tom
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KA4CSG
 
Tom
When I installed 80 mm front calipers many years back I had to grind about 1/16” from a corner of the caliper. Apparently there are small differences in the castings. Most of the people installing 80mm calipers back then had to grind a little off the casting with their Alcoa’s. So the advice is to check to be sure you have clearance.

Emery Stora

>
> To add to your discussion, the 16" steel GMC rims will not allow you to go to 80mm calipers without some metal trimming on the caliper. 16" Alcoa's
> and 16" Americdan Eagles will clear the 80mm.
> Tom
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