When do we stop driving a motorhome?

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Bob Dunahugh

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Had a scary situation this weekend. Was using a friend's tractor trailer. To get my Yenko's to the National Corvette Museum in Bowling Green Ky. From Cedar Rapids Iowa. The trailer is an enclose. Climate controlled 53 ft unit. Can haul 6 cars. With its hydraulic 2 levels. And it has extremely, fantastic braking abilities. With great car tie downs. That I'm very grateful for now. With the ZL1 Camaro. And the 5 Yenkos. The combined value comes in at about $2.1 million for the cars. At the bottom end. Plus, another million in the tractor trailer. ( Crazy nice trailer.)
We were on a 4-lane state route. We had a 38 ft diesel pusher run a red light in front of us. I never dreamed that a tractor trailer could handle that well. And stop that short at 60 MPH. We got a VERY good look. At an elderly man behind the wheel of the pusher. With his eyes the size of a golf ball each. And his wife screaming. By the why she looked.
When we got out. I was truly afraid to look inside the trailer. And see the carnage. As the trailer A/C unit had stopped. ( A safety had shut it down. ) Not the cars running into it. As two of my Yenkos. Are true one of ones. The only ones ever built by GM/Yenko. Everything survived fine. Took 2 years off my life.
The point here is. We ALL need to evaluate our driving skills each time we hit the road. No matter our age. For the safety of all.
Bob Dunahugh
Still with my Yanko's
 
Bob, at least you did not tangle with the rhome.
I find myself not fully paying attention when driving.

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 9:50 PM Bob Dunahugh via Gmclist <

> Had a scary situation this weekend. Was using a friend's tractor
> trailer. To get my Yenko's to the National Corvette Museum in Bowling
> Green Ky. From Cedar Rapids Iowa. The trailer is an enclose. Climate
> controlled 53 ft unit. Can haul 6 cars. With its hydraulic 2 levels. And
> it has extremely, fantastic braking abilities. With great car tie downs.
> That I'm very grateful for now. With the ZL1 Camaro. And the 5 Yenkos. The
> combined value comes in at about $2.1 million for the cars. At the bottom
> end. Plus, another million in the tractor trailer. ( Crazy nice trailer.)
> We were on a 4-lane state route. We had a 38 ft diesel pusher run a
> red light in front of us. I never dreamed that a tractor trailer could
> handle that well. And stop that short at 60 MPH. We got a VERY good look.
> At an elderly man behind the wheel of the pusher. With his eyes the size of
> a golf ball each. And his wife screaming. By the why she looked.
> When we got out. I was truly afraid to look inside the trailer. And see
> the carnage. As the trailer A/C unit had stopped. ( A safety had shut it
> down. ) Not the cars running into it. As two of my Yenkos. Are true one of
> ones. The only ones ever built by GM/Yenko. Everything survived fine. Took
> 2 years off my life.
> The point here is. We ALL need to evaluate our driving skills each time
> we hit the road. No matter our age. For the safety of all.
> Bob Dunahugh
> Still with my Yanko's
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Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
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Bob, lot to be said for Providence. It wasn't your turn in the bullseye.
You need to go buy a lottery ticket. We never know when we will get called
home. Glad you and your cars are all o.k.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 10:00 PM Jim Kanomata via Gmclist <

> Bob, at least you did not tangle with the rhome.
> I find myself not fully paying attention when driving.
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 9:50 PM Bob Dunahugh via Gmclist <

>
> > Had a scary situation this weekend. Was using a friend's tractor
> > trailer. To get my Yenko's to the National Corvette Museum in Bowling
> > Green Ky. From Cedar Rapids Iowa. The trailer is an enclose. Climate
> > controlled 53 ft unit. Can haul 6 cars. With its hydraulic 2 levels. And
> > it has extremely, fantastic braking abilities. With great car tie downs.
> > That I'm very grateful for now. With the ZL1 Camaro. And the 5 Yenkos.
> The
> > combined value comes in at about $2.1 million for the cars. At the bottom
> > end. Plus, another million in the tractor trailer. ( Crazy nice trailer.)
> > We were on a 4-lane state route. We had a 38 ft diesel pusher run
> a
> > red light in front of us. I never dreamed that a tractor trailer could
> > handle that well. And stop that short at 60 MPH. We got a VERY good look.
> > At an elderly man behind the wheel of the pusher. With his eyes the size
> of
> > a golf ball each. And his wife screaming. By the why she looked.
> > When we got out. I was truly afraid to look inside the trailer. And
> see
> > the carnage. As the trailer A/C unit had stopped. ( A safety had shut
> it
> > down. ) Not the cars running into it. As two of my Yenkos. Are true one
> of
> > ones. The only ones ever built by GM/Yenko. Everything survived fine.
> Took
> > 2 years off my life.
> > The point here is. We ALL need to evaluate our driving skills each
> time
> > we hit the road. No matter our age. For the safety of all.
> > Bob Dunahugh
> > Still with my Yanko's
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>
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> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
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Diesel pushers don’t stop that quick good reason to keep speed down near traffic lights sounds like he was going too fast or not paying attention.
Sounds like my wife and she probably will end his Motorhome driving. My pusher is only 32’ but it is more to handle then the 26’ GMC I would not
feel comfortable in a 38’ or larger. You certainly wouldn’t find me driving a rig like you were driving those days are in my rear view mirror.
--
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
 
A diesel pusher has very quick performance for what it is, and like a
freight train doesn't stop on a dime. In fact, you have to stay on top of
it at all times. It can and will get away from you if you let it.

(1999 American Eagle Pusher)

Sammy

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 12:22 AM roy keen via Gmclist <

> Diesel pushers don’t stop that quick good reason to keep speed down near
> traffic lights sounds like he was going too fast or not paying attention.
> Sounds like my wife and she probably will end his Motorhome driving. My
> pusher is only 32’ but it is more to handle then the 26’ GMC I would not
> feel comfortable in a 38’ or larger. You certainly wouldn’t find me
> driving a rig like you were driving those days are in my rear view mirror.
> --
> Roy Keen
> Minden,NV
> 76 X Glenbrook
>
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> Diesel pushers don’t stop that quick

In Germany the rule is: A car has to stop in a given amount of distance.
No matter, if it is a small passenger car, or a big truck. The passenger
cars of course are much better, but the trucks still should stop much
better than one would assume.

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Best regards

Olly Schmidt
PGP KeyID: 0x4196BF22
'76a 26' Eleganza II - Virginia, US
'73 23' Sequoia - Schleswig-Holstein, Germany
 
> In Germany the rule is:

Another note: There are different speed limits for passenger cars (below
3,5to), and trucks.

Autobahn:
passenger cars can go as fast as they want.
Trucks are only allow up to 50mph

regular highways:
passengar cars: up to ~60mph/ 100km/h
Trucks: up to ~40mph/ 80km/h

There is an excempt for special vehicles like RVs over 3,5to: 100 for
Autobahn, and 80 for highways.

In the US, people are driving way faster with these heavier vehicles,
and that of course, is bad for the stopping distance.

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Best regards

Olly Schmidt
PGP KeyID: 0x4196BF22
'76a 26' Eleganza II - Virginia, US
'73 23' Sequoia - Schleswig-Holstein, Germany
 
Trucks in North America stop in about 220 feet from 60mph (fully loaded) on average....better with disc brakes but worse with drums. For every time
you add 10mph to that 60mph you increase the braking distance exponentially hence the governed speed for alot of trucks is 60.

Cars take about 130 feet to do the same stop (no added brake aids like ABS)

So a diesel pusher doing X speed with X weight on a little 5 ton chassis isnt going to stop fast....add someone behind the wheel with slow reflexes
and distractions plus poor vision.....recipe for disaster.

It baffles me that people feel the need to tow their trailer at 65/70mph/plus or drive their big brick on wheels and have no clue how hard it is to
stop that thing.

With the rise in RV sales due to the pandemic their is going to be a rise in related accidents....wont be long before the goverment (insurance)
requires either a speed limit and/or special licensing.
--
Rich Mondor,

Brockville, ON

77 Hughes 2600
 
> better with disc brakes but worse with drums

It was my understanding that drum brakes stop as good as disc brakes on
the first stop, but have the disadvantage of braking worse on subsequent
stops.

Is my understanding wrong?

--
Best regards

Olly Schmidt
PGP KeyID: 0x4196BF22
'76a 26' Eleganza II - Virginia, US
'73 23' Sequoia - Schleswig-Holstein, Germany
 
Until or unless they overheat, the drum brakes will do as well as the discs. This assumes either has the ability to stop the wheel from turning at
all (skid). If the brake has that ability, it can stop the vehicle as well as it's going to stop. The drum brakes heat causes the drum to expand and
can cause it to expand so much the shoes can no longer make as good contact. The discs will still clamp until they get so hot the fluid boils.

I figure I used up all my two wheel luck and much of my four wheel. Consequently I dri8ve like a little ol' lady, and in my coach I stay away from
everybody and everything. As we grow older we get distracted more easily. This means we start stopping sooner and make it a point to look out for
whatever's on the road with us. Whsat used to be second nature now takes a positive thought to drive safely.

--johnny
--
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
 
> > better with disc brakes but worse with drums
>
> It was my understanding that drum brakes stop as good as disc brakes on the first stop, but have the disadvantage of braking worse on subsequent
> stops.
>
> Is my understanding wrong?
>
> --
> Best regards
>
> Olly Schmidt
> PGP KeyID: 0x4196BF22
> '76a 26' Eleganza II - Virginia, US
> '73 23' Sequoia - Schleswig-Holstein, Germany

Olly,

Your understanding is completely correct.

Matt - ex-foundation brake engineer for an OE
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Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
 
The road that we were on, Had a limit of 75. Had a flashing light come on. About a 1/4 mile before the red light. If the stop light was going to come on for you. His limit was 45. That also had that warning flashing light.
We as MH owners. And with age gaining on us. We need to reduce our distractions. This is one of the reasons that I have a Digi-Panel from Jim at Applied GMC. In our GMC. Was that MH driver taking a quik look at his gauges? Thus missed seeing that flashing light? With Jim's panel. I NEVER take my eyes off the road to look at gauges.
I have a camera, with sound. At the back of our GMC. That's on all the time. In this way. I hear others coming up on me. Thus reducing mirror time.
Bob Dunahugh

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From: Bob Dunahugh
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 11:49 PM
To: gmclist
Subject: When do we stop driving a motorhome?

Had a scary situation this weekend. Was using a friend's tractor trailer. To get my Yenko's to the National Corvette Museum in Bowling Green Ky. From Cedar Rapids Iowa. The trailer is an enclose. Climate controlled 53 ft unit. Can haul 6 cars. With its hydraulic 2 levels. And it has extremely, fantastic braking abilities. With great car tie downs. That I'm very grateful for now. With the ZL1 Camaro. And the 5 Yenkos. The combined value comes in at about $2.1 million for the cars. At the bottom end. Plus, another million in the tractor trailer. ( Crazy nice trailer.)
We were on a 4-lane state route. We had a 38 ft diesel pusher run a red light in front of us. I never dreamed that a tractor trailer could handle that well. And stop that short at 60 MPH. We got a VERY good look. At an elderly man behind the wheel of the pusher. With his eyes the size of a golf ball each. And his wife screaming. By the why she looked.
When we got out. I was truly afraid to look inside the trailer. And see the carnage. As the trailer A/C unit had stopped. ( A safety had shut it down. ) Not the cars running into it. As two of my Yenkos. Are true one of ones. The only ones ever built by GM/Yenko. Everything survived fine. Took 2 years off my life.
The point here is. We ALL need to evaluate our driving skills each time we hit the road. No matter our age. For the safety of all.
Bob Dunahugh
Still with my Yanko's
 
Another thing with most pushers that have air brakes you have to remember the brake pedal is not a swing pedal that has better leverage it is threw
the floor like 1940’s cars you need to be sure to apply with your foot at the top of .the pedal for better leverage
--
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
 
Bob D.:
Yupper - That sure sounds scary alright!
So glad you and the cargo are all okay.
Take care and let us know when you are safely home!
Mike/the Corvair a holic

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>
> Had a scary situation this weekend. Was using a friend's tractor trailer. To get my Yenko's to the National Corvette Museum in Bowling Green Ky. From Cedar Rapids Iowa. The trailer is an enclose. Climate controlled 53 ft unit. Can haul 6 cars. With its hydraulic 2 levels. And it has extremely, fantastic braking abilities. With great car tie downs. That I'm very grateful for now. With the ZL1 Camaro. And the 5 Yenkos. The combined value comes in at about $2.1 million for the cars. At the bottom end. Plus, another million in the tractor trailer. ( Crazy nice trailer.)
> We were on a 4-lane state route. We had a 38 ft diesel pusher run a red light in front of us. I never dreamed that a tractor trailer could handle that well. And stop that short at 60 MPH. We got a VERY good look. At an elderly man behind the wheel of the pusher. With his eyes the size of a golf ball each. And his wife screaming. By the why she looked.
> When we got out. I was truly afraid to look inside the trailer. And see the carnage. As the trailer A/C unit had stopped. ( A safety had shut it down. ) Not the cars running into it. As two of my Yenkos. Are true one of ones. The only ones ever built by GM/Yenko. Everything survived fine. Took 2 years off my life.
> The point here is. We ALL need to evaluate our driving skills each time we hit the road. No matter our age. For the safety of all.
> Bob Dunahugh
> Still with my Yanko's
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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