What a day.

In any case Ken’s story helps recharge my faith in my fellow man (or woman). His willingness to help a friend, another friend’s willingness to help him, all in pursuit of a good goal is a story I’d like to see more often.

Then again it’s kind of why I read the GMC list!

Larry Davick
‘76 Palm Beach
Fremont
 
Rescuing horses from the dog food slaughterhouse? That sounds to me like a
noble gesture. Certainly worth helping out an acquaintance with your
pickup. But, in a snow storm? That kinda puts the icing on the cake. We
have been lucky enough to spend some time at Ken's aircraft hangar while on
our Route 66 trip several years ago. His hangar is chock full of everybody
else's stuff, that he helps them out with. Attached boy Ken. America needs
a whole bunch of your clones about now.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 10:09 AM Larry Davick via Gmclist <

> In any case Ken’s story helps recharge my faith in my fellow man (or
> woman). His willingness to help a friend, another friend’s willingness to
> help him, all in pursuit of a good goal is a story I’d like to see more
> often.
>
> Then again it’s kind of why I read the GMC list!
>
> Larry Davick
> ‘76 Palm Beach
> Fremont
>
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Jim,
I am not doing the rescue. My friend is. I am just helping by doing the transportation even though I am 200 miles away from where the horse is now.
The horse in question is less than 2 years old. He needed someone to step in and say I will take care of him and fix his medical issues.

I myself am not into horses, but this guy is really worth saving even though the owner does not have the financial means to do it. It is an expensive
proposition for the owner and I am trying to reduce some of his expenses. The owner bought the trailer sight unseen and I went to pick it up since I
was the one that would be towing it initially. It was only 50 miles away. The price was right but the tires and lighting were not as advertised.
That with the flat tire delay and the incoming weather arriving is what got me into the original jam I posted about.

I replaced all of the tires yesterday. It really needed them so I threw in another $500 for the tires. Working outside in the cold.My daughter and I
replaced both tail / brake light assemblies. I was going to use DOT approved LED lights and then decided that it was seldom going to be on the
highways so regular ones were a better deal. The clearance and license plate lights are still in inoperative but no one is going to stop us for that.
I would love to fix them too before it leaves here, but it is just too cold to do other than essential work on it. In the end the trailer will end
up with the horse about 95 miles from here near Aurora, Illinois.
--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
David,

Because you posted from Ontario, I will give you some additional information I have learned about horses. Guess where more of these horses are sent
for slaughter? Quebec. Also a few go to Mexico.

Also in tracing this horse's background we found he came from an auction in Kalona, Iowa which is Amish territory and is known to be a real hell hole
for horses.

http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs161/1101655399670/archive/1125897902716.html

He has never had shoes and his hooves were never trimmed flat. His left rear ankle was dislocated. Probably from stepping in a hole and it was never
tended to at the time. He was sold at Kalona with a clean bill of health and transported to another auction in Madison, Wis. where he was put in a
pen to be sold again with other horses for slaughter. There he picked up something call "strangles" a respiratory infection, which is common in these
places. He is being treated for this now and is much better. He should complete the strangles treatment next week and be free of that then. He also
has had his hoofs trimmed and they are flat now. He currently is isolated from other horses but has 6 less than one year old cow friends that won't
leave people and the horse alone. When pronounced strangles free I will transport him to the University of Wisconsin where they will operate on his
damaged ankle / hoof and put a pin it. After that I transport him back to Illinois and hopefully to a better life that he would have had as an Amish
work horse. Another reason we think he is Amish is he will only eat hay. He did not even know what grain is and would not take treats like carrots.
He is learning though.

I am thinking of taking the GMC and towing the trailer when I go to transport him Madison. The only problem is the road up to the farm where he is,
is currently snow packed and up hill. This is one of the few occasions where I might need to put on chains on my GMC which I do not have. That
distance is only about 1/4 mile.

Enough of all of this I originally posted to say be sure to check the condition of and date of your spare tire and do not expect to get a tire
repaired anywhere in the evening or at night these days. Carry a known good spare or get stuck in the cold like I did.
--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
Ken,

If you can figure out how to get them, I have a set of chines in a nice box. I acquired them from a GMC friend that took his coach south and knew he
could never need them. They are in a one handle tool box. I would like them back at some time in the distant future.

Let me know.

Matt
--
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
 
Chines? Did you mean Chains?

D C "Mac" Macdonald
Amateur Radio K2GKK
Since 30 November '53
USAF and FAA, Retired
Member GMCMI & Classics
Oklahoma City, OK
"The Money Pit"
TZE166V101966
'76 ex-Palm Beach
k2gkk + hotmail dot com

________________________________
From: Gmclist on behalf of Matt Colie via Gmclist
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 11:14
To: gmclist
Cc: Matt Colie
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] What a day.

Ken,

If you can figure out how to get them, I have a set of chines in a nice box. I acquired them from a GMC friend that took his coach south and knew he
could never need them. They are in a one handle tool box. I would like them back at some time in the distant future.

Let me know.

Matt
--
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
 
Sometimes we all succumb to the "fingers faster than the brain" syndrome.
It leads to some interesting reads once in a while. No intent for harm,
just happens.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Fri, Jan 29, 2021, 9:52 AM D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist <

> Chines? Did you mean Chains?
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald
> Amateur Radio K2GKK
> Since 30 November '53
> USAF and FAA, Retired
> Member GMCMI & Classics
> Oklahoma City, OK
> "The Money Pit"
> TZE166V101966
> '76 ex-Palm Beach
> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Matt Colie
> via Gmclist
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 11:14
> To: gmclist
> Cc: Matt Colie
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] What a day.
>
> Ken,
>
> If you can figure out how to get them, I have a set of chines in a nice
> box. I acquired them from a GMC friend that took his coach south and knew
> he
> could never need them. They are in a one handle tool box. I would like
> them back at some time in the distant future.
>
> Let me know.
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum
> Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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👍

> Jim,
> I am not doing the rescue. My friend is. I am just helping by doing the transportation even though I am 200 miles away from where the horse is
> now. The horse in question is less than 2 years old. He needed someone to step in and say I will take care of him and fix his medical issues.
>
> I myself am not into horses, but this guy is really worth saving even though the owner does not have the financial means to do it. It is an
> expensive proposition for the owner and I am trying to reduce some of his expenses. The owner bought the trailer sight unseen and I went to pick it
> up since I was the one that would be towing it initially. It was only 50 miles away. The price was right but the tires and lighting were not as
> advertised. That with the flat tire delay and the incoming weather arriving is what got me into the original jam I posted about.
>
> I replaced all of the tires yesterday. It really needed them so I threw in another $500 for the tires. Working outside in the cold.My daughter
> and I replaced both tail / brake light assemblies. I was going to use DOT approved LED lights and then decided that it was seldom going to be on the
> highways so regular ones were a better deal. The clearance and license plate lights are still in inoperative but no one is going to stop us for
> that. I would love to fix them too before it leaves here, but it is just too cold to do other than essential work on it. In the end the trailer
> will end up with the horse about 95 miles from here near Aurora, Illinois.

--
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
 
As I read that I wondered what I was going to do this the chimes. I pictured having to get out an dance with them before I tried to drive up the
hill. Then I though of wind chimes and some type of vodo ceremony or something like that. I was going to ask Matt how he wanted me to use them and
maybe send me a video Finally I realized he meant chains.

Thanks Matt, but I think I will just use the Pckup and stay somewhere like Super 8, or Hampton, or Holiday Inn, and leave the GMC parked at home
inside.
--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
> As I read that I wondered what I was going to do this the chimes. I pictured having to get out an dance with them before I tried to drive up the
> hill. Then I though of wind chimes and some type of vodo ceremony or something like that. I was going to ask Matt how he wanted me to use them and
> maybe send me a video Finally I realized he meant chains.
>
> Thanks Matt, but I think I will just use the Pckup and stay somewhere like Super 8, or Hampton, or Holiday Inn, and leave the GMC parked at home
> inside.

Yes, I did mean chains, but I am stuck with a key board I don't like very much.

I like your second plan a lot.

Be Safe and Well

Matt
--
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
 
As others have suggested, be sure to check the wheel bearings before putting a load in that trailer.

> e sure
>
> Jim,
> I am not doing the rescue. My friend is. I am just helping by doing the transportation even though I am 200 miles away from where the horse is now.
> The horse in question is less than 2 years old. He needed someone to step in and say I will take care of him and fix his medical issues.
>
> I myself am not into horses, but this guy is really worth saving even though the owner does not have the financial means to do it. It is an expensive
> proposition for the owner and I am trying to reduce some of his expenses. The owner bought the trailer sight unseen and I went to pick it up since I
> was the one that would be towing it initially. It was only 50 miles away. The price was right but the tires and lighting were not as advertised.
> That with the flat tire delay and the incoming weather arriving is what got me into the original jam I posted about.
>
> I replaced all of the tires yesterday. It really needed them so I threw in another $500 for the tires. Working outside in the cold.My daughter and I
> replaced both tail / brake light assemblies. I was going to use DOT approved LED lights and then decided that it was seldom going to be on the
> highways so regular ones were a better deal. The clearance and license plate lights are still in inoperative but no one is going to stop us for that.
> I would love to fix them too before it leaves here, but it is just too cold to do other than essential work on it. In the end the trailer will end
> up with the horse about 95 miles from here near Aurora, Illinois.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
>
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> GMCnet mailing list
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to Ken B, I don't know if you remember who I am but I met you at one of Matt C's brunches at some place in Michigan.
I spent more than 25 years at IBM Toronto Manufacturing most of it as a pencil pushed in what they now call materials
management. When the Toronto Emergency Order Desk got in trouble with Corporate, I spent a couple of years getting it from last place in North
America
to 1st place in how Corporate measured it. I also had some jobs that involved travel to various IBM U.S.A. Manufacturing plants and had a week and a
half
trip to IBM Sweden. IBM sold the Toronto Manufacturing business to Celestica in about 1994 and I r to the new Company doing the same job. I retired
with a "golden handshke I think in 2002. GMC content, I found the forum when i still worked for IBM
A couple of weeks ago I had a trip somewhat like yours to get rid on the left over tires and wheels off of GMC YUKON when it went to scrap.

--
DAVE KING
lurker, wannabe
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
 
I definitely remember you and every time I see a posting from you I want to call you King David (from Toronto).

> to Ken B, I don't know if you remember who I am but I met you at one of Matt C's brunches at some place in Michigan.
> I spent more than 25 years at IBM Toronto Manufacturing most of it as a pencil pushed in what they now call materials
> management. When the Toronto Emergency Order Desk got in trouble with Corporate, I spent a couple of years getting it from last place in North
> America
> to 1st place in how Corporate measured it. I also had some jobs that involved travel to various IBM U.S.A. Manufacturing plants and had a week and
> a half
> trip to IBM Sweden. IBM sold the Toronto Manufacturing business to Celestica in about 1994 and I moved to the new Company doing the same job. I
> retired with a "golden handshke I think in 2002. GMC content, I found the forum when i still worked for IBM
> A couple of weeks ago I had a trip somewhat like yours to get rid on the left over tires and wheels off of GMC YUKON when it went to scrap.

--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
GMC content. As you can see from my sig file I'm a "wannabe" and have been forever. I have an acquaintance who is one of the
most competent mechanics I have ever encountered. He used to own 2 GMC MHs that he sold a few years ago. His explanation was that he was
getting too old to deal with 40 plus year old vehicles. He wanted to be able to use his when he wanted to, not try to keep a 40+ year
old house on wheels running. As some of you have found out even getting small things done at a shop (not a GMCMH specialty shop) can
be challenging. I haven't completely given up on a GMCMH but I see my having one sort of slipping away. I still love reading about what you
are doing with yours.
When things open back up I should probably think about getting on the "black list" for people who need help in Southern Ontario.
--
DAVE KING
lurker, wannabe
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
 
Fave,

You are the kind of people we need around here. Owner, former owner, or non-owner, I believe all are welcome and I appreciate you comments and
technical expertise. I see you originally registered in 2004. So I can say over the years you have contributed a lot for all of us.

Thanks.

Ken B.
--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
A note of thanks to those people who contributed to this effort.

I did NOT solicit contributions here or anywhere, but to those who decided on their own to help, your contribution to this effort to save this horse
is definitely appreciated. I sent notes and a couple of pictures and the owners name / email to all of you, except one person. To the one person
who contributed via Paypal, that I can not identify so I can not send you a personal message, we thank you here instead. I will accept any donations,
including anonymous ones.

All unsolicited donations are being applied to the several thousand dollar unexpected bills that are piling up.

Thank you, Thank You, THANK YOU

Because of the hurried time to get ToBe out of there and the distance away, we did not use the GMC and horse trailer that started this thread. It was
just too far and put together to quickly to use our own equipment.

UPDATE ON the horse (named ToBe)

He is doing quite well and has an appointment to go to the University of Wisconsin Horse Clinic for an MRI and probably hoof surgery in 2.5 weeks.

You can not dream up the following stuff.

We got strong indications through others local to him, including the Vet, and direct emails from the stable, that the stable owner we increasingly
unstable with regards to boarding ToBe. We were advised to move the horse out of there immediately. His pre-paid boarding contract was suppose to be
until the end of February.

Yesterday in a matter of hours the horse owner was able to put together a rescue and move effort to get the horse out of there to a new (temporary)
location about 100 miles away. He will stay there until he goes to University of Wisconsin. On 10 minutes notice we sent a transport person to the
horses location to pick him up. Meanwhile, I drove 3 hours and the owner drove 1 hour to his new temporary location to be there when ToBe arrived.
When the trailer arrived and before he was unloaded, ToBe gave out a happy whinny when he saw his owner waiting. This was at 9:45 PM. We stayed
there until almost 1 AM to get him adjusted to his new temporary home. He appeared very happy when we left there in the middle of the night. He
looks the best we have seen him since we first got him.

So thank you to everyone who helped, including the anonymous paypal person. Some day you will tell me who you are.

I do not do facebook but here are some links to pictures there IF it works.

Ken B.

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Ken B.
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76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
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