Water Pump

Gary K. Our buyer contacted the factory rep, they have no date or reason as
to why they cannot deliver.

On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 7:55 AM Dolph Santorine via Gmclist <

> Well, well, well…….. Summit pushed the deliver date back another month on
> the Cardone pump.
>
> Glad I’m not holding my breath (It’s just a spare)
>
>
> Dolph
>
> DE AD0LF
>
> Wheeling, West Virginia
>
> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
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I recently bought the #T3086 Water Pump from CarQuest after speaking with the Advance Auto Parts factory rep, who said that CarQuest is selling the
Cardone heavy duty pump under that part number.

The CarQuest pump has 6 impellers covered with a 4.5" OD disk and has the number WR1938165 stamped on the end of the shaft.

Matt Colie suggested that that number may indicate the bearing, so I searched and found a description here....
https://hkbearings.tradeindia.com/water-pump-bearing-2884590.html, and here...
https://m.alibaba.com/product/60701177993/Auto-Bearing-koyo-W7R112B-Water-Pump.html...that confirm it is a roller/ball bearing.

This (mostly) agrees with Rick Staples report of a Cardone 55-2118H with WP1938165 stamped on the shaft. I was not able to find a bearing online with
that number, and suspect that the 'P' was really an 'R' (they are small numbers and hard to read. I used my samsung android microscope)

So that's enough for me. Hopefully CQ still has them in stock for those who are waiting for Summit or other sources.
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Bill Van Vlack
'76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid
November 2015.
 
I might have mentioned this before, but, buyer beware. If you have a pump
that was giving you good service and failed due to age, and has all the
features you deem vitally important, (impeller, roller bearings, matching
gaskets, outlets, etc) remove it and take it with you to your parts store
of choice and match it up. Numbers lie, so does packaging. I bought 5 pumps
for a seminar at a rally, all with the same part number. They were all
different from each other. One was correct, 4 were not. Such is the state
of parts supplies.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 7:22 AM Dave Stragand via Gmclist <

> Advance apparently has multiple suppliers for that pump, as the T3086 I
> received was a very different pump. Check out some of the pictures at
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g7203-carquest-t3086-water-pump.html
> and note how the hose nipples on this unit are part of the casting instead
> of a
> pressed-in pipe. The one I received also had a smaller impeller &
> different bearings.
> --
> 1978 Transmode (403)
> Pittsburgh, PA
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A bit more than a year ago, a young friend from the car community (he’s helped me with my coach) went to work as a buyer at a national auto parts chain. The job was in Roanoke, VA (a bit of a move for him).

He has excellent skills, and his vehicles show it. He’s a real mechanic, a bit of a machinist, knows which end of the voltmeter to hold on to, and is well written and read. B.S.B.A, and a slew of certifications. Smart, resourceful, completely unafraid of asking questions when he does not know, and likable.

About a week after he transferred to the home office, he called and said “I’m in a bull pen in an old circuit city store with about 30 buyers. I think I’m the only one who can change my own oil. They looked at my micrometer and digital calipers with awe. Few of them had ever used them. Part number and price chasers, with no interest in quality”

This is one of the chains you probably have been to. Their CEO’s sole qualification to be at the helm is that he sold sugar water, and gives good powerpoint, and Starboard Value LP thinks he can improve the bottom line for a few quarters so they can bail out of their position.

He changed jobs shortly thereafter.

Such is the state of auto parts supply right now.

Sorry about being harsh, but it’s how I see it.

Dolph

DE AD0LF

Wheeling, West Virginia

1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Sullybilt Bags, Manny Transmission

“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"

>
> I might have mentioned this before, but, buyer beware. If you have a pump
> that was giving you good service and failed due to age, and has all the
> features you deem vitally important, (impeller, roller bearings, matching
> gaskets, outlets, etc) remove it and take it with you to your parts store
> of choice and match it up. Numbers lie, so does packaging. I bought 5 pumps
> for a seminar at a rally, all with the same part number. They were all
> different from each other. One was correct, 4 were not. Such is the state
> of parts supplies.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 7:22 AM Dave Stragand via Gmclist <

>
>> Advance apparently has multiple suppliers for that pump, as the T3086 I
>> received was a very different pump. Check out some of the pictures at
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g7203-carquest-t3086-water-pump.html
>> and note how the hose nipples on this unit are part of the casting instead
>> of a
>> pressed-in pipe. The one I received also had a smaller impeller &
>> different bearings.
>> --
>> 1978 Transmode (403)
>> Pittsburgh, PA
>>
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Dolph,
" Sorry about being harsh, but it’s how I see it"

Sometimes the truth hurts!

Mike in NS

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 3:45 PM Dolph Santorine via Gmclist <

> A bit more than a year ago, a young friend from the car community (he’s
> helped me with my coach) went to work as a buyer at a national auto parts
> chain. The job was in Roanoke, VA (a bit of a move for him).
>
> He has excellent skills, and his vehicles show it. He’s a real mechanic, a
> bit of a machinist, knows which end of the voltmeter to hold on to, and is
> well written and read. B.S.B.A, and a slew of certifications. Smart,
> resourceful, completely unafraid of asking questions when he does not know,
> and likable.
>
> About a week after he transferred to the home office, he called and said
> “I’m in a bull pen in an old circuit city store with about 30 buyers. I
> think I’m the only one who can change my own oil. They looked at my
> micrometer and digital calipers with awe. Few of them had ever used them.
> Part number and price chasers, with no interest in quality”
>
> This is one of the chains you probably have been to. Their CEO’s sole
> qualification to be at the helm is that he sold sugar water, and gives good
> powerpoint, and Starboard Value LP thinks he can improve the bottom line
> for a few quarters so they can bail out of their position.
>
> He changed jobs shortly thereafter.
>
> Such is the state of auto parts supply right now.
>
> Sorry about being harsh, but it’s how I see it.
>
> Dolph
>
> DE AD0LF
>
> Wheeling, West Virginia
>
> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
> Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Sullybilt Bags, Manny Transmission
>
> “The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>
> > On Mar 16, 2019, at 10:53 AM, James Hupy via Gmclist <

> >
> > I might have mentioned this before, but, buyer beware. If you have a pump
> > that was giving you good service and failed due to age, and has all the
> > features you deem vitally important, (impeller, roller bearings, matching
> > gaskets, outlets, etc) remove it and take it with you to your parts store
> > of choice and match it up. Numbers lie, so does packaging. I bought 5
> pumps
> > for a seminar at a rally, all with the same part number. They were all
> > different from each other. One was correct, 4 were not. Such is the state
> > of parts supplies.
> > Jim Hupy
> > Salem, Or
> > 78 GMC ROYALE 403
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 7:22 AM Dave Stragand via Gmclist <

> >
> >> Advance apparently has multiple suppliers for that pump, as the T3086 I
> >> received was a very different pump. Check out some of the pictures at
> >> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g7203-carquest-t3086-water-pump.html
> >> and note how the hose nipples on this unit are part of the casting
> instead
> >> of a
> >> pressed-in pipe. The one I received also had a smaller impeller &
> >> different bearings.
> >> --
> >> 1978 Transmode (403)
> >> Pittsburgh, PA
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> GMCnet mailing list
> >> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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> >>
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1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS

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