Water Pump with Roller Bearing

[SteveW]

Greetings from Southern California !!

We're rounding up parts for a timing chain replacement project - along with all of the other components on the front of the engine...

As y'all know - the version with the roller bearing (Cardone Industries 55-21118H) seems to be no longer available.

Might anyone know of a secret stash somewhere ??

Thanks in advance,
Steve W

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Steve W
1973 : 23'
Southern California

 

[jim kanomata1]

Steve,
From what I have experienced with standard pumps for the GMC, I would not
loose sleep over using a standard one.
In the last 15 years, all the pump Mfg co has been using larger capabb CB
it’s bearings. Yes the bearing in that pump is great, I run one, but it
really does not convince me that it will outlast the std by much.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 9:48 PM Steve Weinstock via Gmclist <

> Greetings from Southern California !!
>
> We're rounding up parts for a timing chain replacement project - along
> with all of the other components on the front of the engine...
>
> As y'all know - the version with the roller bearing (Cardone Industries
> 55-21118H) seems to be no longer available.
>
> Might anyone know of a secret stash somewhere ??
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Steve W
>
>
> --
> Steve W
> 1973 : 23'
> Southern California
>
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Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.gmcrvparts.com
1-800-752-7502

 

[SteveW]

Thank you Jim !!!

Hoping to visit you sometime soon... Any Southern California travels on your horizon ?

Steve W

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Steve W
1973 : 23'
Southern California

 

[les burt]

Didn’t someone discover that GMB made a w/pump with the desired roller bearing?

Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'

>
> Thank you Jim !!!
>
> Hoping to visit you sometime soon... Any Southern California travels on your horizon ?
>
> Steve W
>
>
>
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> Steve W
> 1973 : 23'
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[dave stragand1]

GMB 130-1260p supposedly fits the bill. It’s aluminum, too.

-Dave
1978 Transmode near Pittsburgh

>
> Didn’t someone discover that GMB made a w/pump with the desired roller bearing?
>
> Les Burt
> Montreal
> '75 Eleganza 26'
>
>

>>
>> Thank you Jim !!!
>>
>> Hoping to visit you sometime soon... Any Southern California travels on your horizon ?
>>
>> Steve W
>>
>>
>>
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>> Steve W
>> 1973 : 23'
>> Southern California
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[mark sawyer]

FWIW, I picked up one of these pumps as a spare: Dayco DP9951

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=11204201&jsn=12214

It's a heavy duty version of the Dayco DP995... It seemed similar to the heavy duty Cardone pump, (New casting, roller bearing) except better, IMO as
it has the anti-cavitation plate on the impeller....

It's a nice looking part, FWTW. It's an iron casting, but has some sort of anti-rust coating.... Powder coated or some sort of e-coat maybe? MEK
does not seem to remove it, so not enamel anyway. Even came with new studs. Not bad for 40 bucks... I'm using it as a spare, so I can't comment on
actually using it, but the part definitely shows an attention to detail you don't normally see on an aftermarket part.. And if that translates over
into the quality of the parts used, assebbly, QC etc., it should be a good part.

--
Mark S. '73 Painted Desert,
Manny 1 Ton Front End,
Howell Injection,
Leigh Harrison 4bag and Rear Brakes,
Fort Worth, TX

 

[jim kanomata1]

All looks great on paper, but when I demand that they paay for labor when
it fails, I dont think they will do it.
Dayco is a V Belt manufacture that is trying to grow by goig into water
pumps as it is big business for older vehicles.
The bearing they are using is NOT the ones we have been HYPING.

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 9:50 AM Mark Sawyer via Gmclist <

> FWIW, I picked up one of these pumps as a spare: Dayco DP9951
>
> https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=11204201&jsn=12214
>
> It's a heavy duty version of the Dayco DP995... It seemed similar to the
> heavy duty Cardone pump, (New casting, roller bearing) except better, IMO as
> it has the anti-cavitation plate on the impeller....
>
> It's a nice looking part, FWTW. It's an iron casting, but has some sort of
> anti-rust coating.... Powder coated or some sort of e-coat maybe? MEK
> does not seem to remove it, so not enamel anyway. Even came with new
> studs. Not bad for 40 bucks... I'm using it as a spare, so I can't
> comment on
> actually using it, but the part definitely shows an attention to detail
> you don't normally see on an aftermarket part.. And if that translates over
> into the quality of the parts used, assebbly, QC etc., it should be a good
> part.
>
>
> --
> Mark S. '73 Painted Desert,
> Manny 1 Ton Front End,
> Howell Injection,
> Leigh Harrison 4bag and Rear Brakes,
> Fort Worth, TX
>
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Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.gmcrvparts.com
1-800-752-7502

 

[dave stragand1]

Forgot to mention I took a bunch of photos of it when the topic last came up:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=7253

-Dave
1978 Transmode near Pittsburgh

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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Water Pump with Roller Bearing

GMB 130-1260p supposedly fits the bill. It’s aluminum, too.

-Dave
1978 Transmode near Pittsburgh

 

[mark sawyer]

> All looks great on paper, but when I demand that they paay for labor when
> it fails, I dont think they will do it.
> Dayco is a V Belt manufacture that is trying to grow by goig into water
> pumps as it is big business for older vehicles.
> The bearing they are using is NOT the ones we have been HYPING.

Geez, Jim... What did Dayco steal your girlfriend? Kick your dog? All I was saying is it's a nice looking part...

I didn't call them up to see what brand of bearings they use, (Though the description does say "Case-hardened roller bearing") nor did I check to see
if they'll cover the sixer of Shiner it will take me to swap it out if it fails...

In fact, I'm not even running it on my coach... It's a spare for me. I'm currently running a FLow Kooler pump I bought from you... It's just a good
looking part is all. There is no casting flash, it appears well machined... and it weighs nearly 12 pounds. Only thing I found to complain about is
they must have spec'd the box for an aluminum pump, as it was falling apart when it got to me.

Yes, it may be lipstick on a pig... The machining may be way off, the bearing may be crap... I did not go that far into it...

Was just throwing it out there as it appears someone made a nice looking part for a reasonable price that would fit on our coach...
--
Mark S. '73 Painted Desert,
Manny 1 Ton Front End,
Howell Injection,
Leigh Harrison 4bag and Rear Brakes,
Fort Worth, TX

 

[jim kanomata1]

Mark,
Don't mind me. It is the 77 year old grandpappy farting.

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 2:17 PM Mark Sawyer via Gmclist <

> > All looks great on paper, but when I demand that they paay for labor when
> > it fails, I dont think they will do it.
> > Dayco is a V Belt manufacture that is trying to grow by goig into water
> > pumps as it is big business for older vehicles.
> > The bearing they are using is NOT the ones we have been HYPING.
>
> Geez, Jim... What did Dayco steal your girlfriend? Kick your dog? All I
> was saying is it's a nice looking part...
>
> I didn't call them up to see what brand of bearings they use, (Though the
> description does say "Case-hardened roller bearing") nor did I check to see
> if they'll cover the sixer of Shiner it will take me to swap it out if it
> fails...
>
> In fact, I'm not even running it on my coach... It's a spare for me. I'm
> currently running a FLow Kooler pump I bought from you... It's just a good
> looking part is all. There is no casting flash, it appears well
> machined... and it weighs nearly 12 pounds. Only thing I found to
> complain about is
> they must have spec'd the box for an aluminum pump, as it was falling
> apart when it got to me.
>
> Yes, it may be lipstick on a pig... The machining may be way off, the
> bearing may be crap... I did not go that far into it...
>
> Was just throwing it out there as it appears someone made a nice looking
> part for a reasonable price that would fit on our coach...
> --
> Mark S. '73 Painted Desert,
> Manny 1 Ton Front End,
> Howell Injection,
> Leigh Harrison 4bag and Rear Brakes,
> Fort Worth, TX
>
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Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.gmcrvparts.com
1-800-752-7502