very high idle... bad distributor... engine killer (?)

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On the way home from jumping the starter with a screwdriver 10 days ago
i was experiencing a very high idle when coming to a stop at traffic lights.
It didn’t seem like a stuck accelerator cable, and considering the uncertainty of being able
to get it started again at the side of the road, we just made our way home through LA rush-hour traffic.

So now that its starting up properly in the driveway, i was looking further into that acceleration phenomena
and consulted with Miguel at MGM GMC who told me to take a look at the distributor, and see if the weights
are snapping back, or if they’re frozen up with rust, etc.
Well, the little “weights” on top seem to move just fine, but lo and behold, the part just underneath it
(centrifuge advance?) feels really gummy, and needs to be manually moved back by hand.
Comparing these to the distributor on the ’78 Eleganza, there’s definitely an issue here with the Birchhaven.
(Nice call Miguel!). I tried a little WD40 sprayed in from the top (not wanting to remove the distributor just yet,
not without a plan), and this doesn’t seem to be helping. Not wanting to skimp when it comes to vital parts,
i’d just assume order a distributor at Napa #48-1892 Reman Distributor (NRD) (75-76) and drop it in on monday.
With this part number listed on the GMCMI parts index, Is this indeed the recommended part to drop in?
Or… Is it worth one’s time trying to clean and lubricate my original? It was running pretty smooth up until the acceleration phenomena.
I know that if i’m replacing, i should also do the cap and rotor… probably time for the wires… check the plugs…

Hopefully no damage was done to the engine on the 1 hour drive home that day!
Any quick advice appreciated, thanks

Greg / SolarSonic / Los Angeles
 
Don't think any damage.
Pull the distributor and take it apart and clean and use sun grease and
reassemble

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 5:55 PM Ek Lektro via Gmclist <

> On the way home from jumping the starter with a screwdriver 10 days ago
> i was experiencing a very high idle when coming to a stop at traffic
> lights.
> It didn’t seem like a stuck accelerator cable, and considering the
> uncertainty of being able
> to get it started again at the side of the road, we just made our way home
> through LA rush-hour traffic.
>
> So now that its starting up properly in the driveway, i was looking
> further into that acceleration phenomena
> and consulted with Miguel at MGM GMC who told me to take a look at the
> distributor, and see if the weights
> are snapping back, or if they’re frozen up with rust, etc.
> Well, the little “weights” on top seem to move just fine, but lo and
> behold, the part just underneath it
> (centrifuge advance?) feels really gummy, and needs to be manually moved
> back by hand.
> Comparing these to the distributor on the ’78 Eleganza, there’s definitely
> an issue here with the Birchhaven.
> (Nice call Miguel!). I tried a little WD40 sprayed in from the top (not
> wanting to remove the distributor just yet,
> not without a plan), and this doesn’t seem to be helping. Not wanting to
> skimp when it comes to vital parts,
> i’d just assume order a distributor at Napa #48-1892 Reman Distributor
> (NRD) (75-76) and drop it in on monday.
> With this part number listed on the GMCMI parts index, Is this indeed the
> recommended part to drop in?
> Or… Is it worth one’s time trying to clean and lubricate my original? It
> was running pretty smooth up until the acceleration phenomena.
> I know that if i’m replacing, i should also do the cap and rotor… probably
> time for the wires… check the plugs…
>
> Hopefully no damage was done to the engine on the 1 hour drive home that
> day!
> Any quick advice appreciated, thanks
>
> Greg / SolarSonic / Los Angeles
>
>
>
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Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
 
WD-40 is not a lubricant. Principal ingredient is stoddard solvent. Parts
cleaner. Use a volatile chemical that evaporates quickly, Brake-Kleen is
one that I use. Spray it in the distributor, chase it with compressed air.
Use the tip of a small screwdriver, dip it in silicone grease, and
sparingly apply it to the phenolic buttons the weights rest on. The springs
should return the weights easily, without sticking. No joy, repeat until
success is at hand. Usually no need for a replacement distributor.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 6:06 PM Jim Kanomata via Gmclist <

> Don't think any damage.
> Pull the distributor and take it apart and clean and use sun grease and
> reassemble
>
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 5:55 PM Ek Lektro via Gmclist <

>
> > On the way home from jumping the starter with a screwdriver 10 days ago
> > i was experiencing a very high idle when coming to a stop at traffic
> > lights.
> > It didn’t seem like a stuck accelerator cable, and considering the
> > uncertainty of being able
> > to get it started again at the side of the road, we just made our way
> home
> > through LA rush-hour traffic.
> >
> > So now that its starting up properly in the driveway, i was looking
> > further into that acceleration phenomena
> > and consulted with Miguel at MGM GMC who told me to take a look at the
> > distributor, and see if the weights
> > are snapping back, or if they’re frozen up with rust, etc.
> > Well, the little “weights” on top seem to move just fine, but lo and
> > behold, the part just underneath it
> > (centrifuge advance?) feels really gummy, and needs to be manually moved
> > back by hand.
> > Comparing these to the distributor on the ’78 Eleganza, there’s
> definitely
> > an issue here with the Birchhaven.
> > (Nice call Miguel!). I tried a little WD40 sprayed in from the top (not
> > wanting to remove the distributor just yet,
> > not without a plan), and this doesn’t seem to be helping. Not wanting to
> > skimp when it comes to vital parts,
> > i’d just assume order a distributor at Napa #48-1892 Reman Distributor
> > (NRD) (75-76) and drop it in on monday.
> > With this part number listed on the GMCMI parts index, Is this indeed the
> > recommended part to drop in?
> > Or… Is it worth one’s time trying to clean and lubricate my original? It
> > was running pretty smooth up until the acceleration phenomena.
> > I know that if i’m replacing, i should also do the cap and rotor…
> probably
> > time for the wires… check the plugs…
> >
> > Hopefully no damage was done to the engine on the 1 hour drive home that
> > day!
> > Any quick advice appreciated, thanks
> >
> > Greg / SolarSonic / Los Angeles
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GMCnet mailing list
> > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> > http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
> >
> --
> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
> jimk
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
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Dick Patterson showed us at International how to do it properly.
Takes more time, but it will last longer if oe were to seperate the shaft
and lightly go over the shaft area that is gummed up.
Nothing wrong with Jim H's way either, makes sense.

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 7:29 PM Ek Lektro via Gmclist <

> thanks Jim and Jim,
> I’m on it!
> should return the weights easily, without sticking>>
>
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Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
 
Good news is that the WD40 i had sprayed earlier was doing its job apparently
(After i had given up, and was writing the email, it was working behind the scenes... ended up doing the trick…!)
Just needed to sink in for a couple hours. Everything’s snapping back perfect now.
So i blew it out with brake cleaner and compressed air to clean things up.
Monday, i’ll remove the distributor and take a closer look, see what i can do.

Many thanks for the info… and especially to Miguel for pointing me towards the distributor.
Major relief, cheers!
G

 
This never happens on a car or med truck as they do not have the wind load
that our coaches have.
Be prepared to do it again in sever thousand miles.

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 9:28 PM Ek Lektro via Gmclist <

> Good news is that the WD40 i had sprayed earlier was doing its job
> apparently
> (After i had given up, and was writing the email, it was working behind
> the scenes... ended up doing the trick…!)
> Just needed to sink in for a couple hours. Everything’s snapping back
> perfect now.
> So i blew it out with brake cleaner and compressed air to clean things up.
> Monday, i’ll remove the distributor and take a closer look, see what i can
> do.
>
> Many thanks for the info… and especially to Miguel for pointing me towards
> the distributor.
> Major relief, cheers!
> G
>
> and lightly go over the shaft area that is gummed up.
> Nothing wrong with Jim H's way either, makes sense>>
>
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Jim Kanomata
Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502