Heinz I could not disagree with you more strenuously. Its not the short
term performance of a tire that is important,even cheap tires may perform
well for a short time when new, or under less than strenuous conditions.
These D rated or E rated tires may even give good service for a long time.
It is the long term AVERAGE and DYNAMIC performance that is important. We
want these tires to perform well over their complete life cycle under all
conditions they may be exposed to.
I am not willing to sacrifice my life or my families on one persons real
life experiences. GM did the study, it was paid for by General tire and the
conclusion was that only Michelin produced a tire that could meet all of the
engineering conditions. No one else could!
If it had been biased wouldn't it have been slanted towards General?
Tom: do you have a copy of this study? Do you know when it was done?
Vic Marks
Vancouver, BC
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:33:45 -0700
From: Vic Marks
Subject: GMC: Content
I have often been the subject of this same phenomenon myself, so maybe I'm
overly sensitive to it. I sense that Tom, like me, wants to help and is
probably amazed that a few people get there backs up. I guess I am too.
Especially when it's the same couple of people each time.
Travis: This is the kind of comment that cuts off dialog - "Especially when
it's the same couple of people each time." Paint a corner, put a person in
it enough times and he or she will not bother stepping over the line again.
You may perceive that Tom's comments were not intimidating or that the same
types always complained about it but my guess is that any of the positions
taken on the net have a number of supporters who do not put in their "two
bits" because somebody else has voiced their feelings appropriately. As a
person who has worked with words for 25 years (in the book publishing
industry), I can assure you that how you choose your words is critical to
the message. And I quite agree with Patrick, Tom's choice of phrase did
come across as intimidating. I was going to post something myself but the
message was well posted by others.
To add a bit of fuel to the fire, my experience is that "engineering types"
seem to some of the worst offenders. Perhaps because they are used to
working with absolutes and therefore don't "suffer fools gladly."
Vic Marks
Vancouver BC
75 transmode
term performance of a tire that is important,even cheap tires may perform
well for a short time when new, or under less than strenuous conditions.
These D rated or E rated tires may even give good service for a long time.
It is the long term AVERAGE and DYNAMIC performance that is important. We
want these tires to perform well over their complete life cycle under all
conditions they may be exposed to.
I am not willing to sacrifice my life or my families on one persons real
life experiences. GM did the study, it was paid for by General tire and the
conclusion was that only Michelin produced a tire that could meet all of the
engineering conditions. No one else could!
If it had been biased wouldn't it have been slanted towards General?
Tom: do you have a copy of this study? Do you know when it was done?
Vic Marks
Vancouver, BC
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:33:45 -0700
From: Vic Marks
Subject: GMC: Content
I have often been the subject of this same phenomenon myself, so maybe I'm
overly sensitive to it. I sense that Tom, like me, wants to help and is
probably amazed that a few people get there backs up. I guess I am too.
Especially when it's the same couple of people each time.
Travis: This is the kind of comment that cuts off dialog - "Especially when
it's the same couple of people each time." Paint a corner, put a person in
it enough times and he or she will not bother stepping over the line again.
You may perceive that Tom's comments were not intimidating or that the same
types always complained about it but my guess is that any of the positions
taken on the net have a number of supporters who do not put in their "two
bits" because somebody else has voiced their feelings appropriately. As a
person who has worked with words for 25 years (in the book publishing
industry), I can assure you that how you choose your words is critical to
the message. And I quite agree with Patrick, Tom's choice of phrase did
come across as intimidating. I was going to post something myself but the
message was well posted by others.
To add a bit of fuel to the fire, my experience is that "engineering types"
seem to some of the worst offenders. Perhaps because they are used to
working with absolutes and therefore don't "suffer fools gladly."
Vic Marks
Vancouver BC
75 transmode
