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Have you verified that the bolts holding the two halves of the ball cup
together are not loose? Back when we worked on those columns frequently
that was a common issue.
Sully
Bellevue wa
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> Are worn or sloppy steering column spheres a common problem? I suspect
> lower column bearings are but other parts like this?
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together are not loose? Back when we worked on those columns frequently
that was a common issue.
Sully
Bellevue wa
On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 3:51 PM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist <
> Are worn or sloppy steering column spheres a common problem? I suspect
> lower column bearings are but other parts like this?
>
> --
>
> Rich Mondor,
>
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> Brockville, ON
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>
> 77 Hughes 2600
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No i have not, thanks Sully.
I was just lookimg for "loose" steering components do to a bit of sloppy steering and while holding the lowrr column at the upper joint the wife could
still move the wheel slightly so i figured the speres were the culprit.
> Have you verified that the bolts holding the two halves of the ball cup
> together are not loose? Back when we worked on those columns frequently
> that was a common issue.
>
> Sully
> Bellevue wa
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 3:51 PM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist <
>
> > Are worn or sloppy steering column spheres a common problem? I suspect
> > lower column bearings are but other parts like this?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Rich Mondor,
> >
> >
> >
> > Brockville, ON
> >
> >
> >
> > 77 Hughes 2600
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Brockville, ON
77 Hughes 2600
I was just lookimg for "loose" steering components do to a bit of sloppy steering and while holding the lowrr column at the upper joint the wife could
still move the wheel slightly so i figured the speres were the culprit.
> Have you verified that the bolts holding the two halves of the ball cup
> together are not loose? Back when we worked on those columns frequently
> that was a common issue.
>
> Sully
> Bellevue wa
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 3:51 PM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist <
>
> > Are worn or sloppy steering column spheres a common problem? I suspect
> > lower column bearings are but other parts like this?
> >
> > --
> >
> > Rich Mondor,
> >
> >
> >
> > Brockville, ON
> >
> >
> >
> > 77 Hughes 2600
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> >
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Rich Mondor,
Brockville, ON
77 Hughes 2600
Sir, this is a guide to updating the column to turn signals on the stalk but should give you an idea of how to get to the 4 bolts that get loose under
the turn signal switch. You will need to remove the shift lever housing and the upper tilt housing. You should be able to unplug the turn signal
switch at bottom of column and raise it enough to clear the shaft and lay aside in the coach. You will need some grease and probably a small magnet
to chase ball bearings and hold them in place to assemble.
http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Sowers_Steering_Column_Upgrade_Repair.pdf
There might be other issues when you get in there as the bearing and tilt housings are pot metal. Replacing these is the only repair if broken.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47937-dsc00284.html
The tilt ball is 2 piece with a “C” spring in the middle. This spring wears on the shaft on all GMCs I have taken apart. When you get this deep
in the column you can remove the ball by bending the top part to lower right and slip the top shaft off. Do not rotate the shaft. Keep the same
orientation of the shaft but take the ball off and rotate it 180* and replace it on the lower shaft then replace the top shaft. Of course grease it.
This will put the spring on a virgin surface and tighten up the spring and joint.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47389-most-all-the-motorhomes-are-wore-here.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47388-wear-pattern.html
> No i have not, thanks Sully.
>
> I was just looking for "loose" steering components do to a bit of sloppy steering and while holding the lower column at the upper joint the wife
> could still move the wheel slightly so i figured the spheres might be the culprit.
>
> > Have you verified that the bolts holding the two halves of the ball cup
> > together are not loose? Back when we worked on those columns frequently
> > that was a common issue.
> >
> > Sully
> > Bellevue wa
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 3:51 PM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist <
> >
> > > Are worn or sloppy steering column spheres a common problem? I suspect
> > > lower column bearings are but other parts like this?
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Rich Mondor,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Brockville, ON
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 77 Hughes 2600
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
the turn signal switch. You will need to remove the shift lever housing and the upper tilt housing. You should be able to unplug the turn signal
switch at bottom of column and raise it enough to clear the shaft and lay aside in the coach. You will need some grease and probably a small magnet
to chase ball bearings and hold them in place to assemble.
http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Sowers_Steering_Column_Upgrade_Repair.pdf
There might be other issues when you get in there as the bearing and tilt housings are pot metal. Replacing these is the only repair if broken.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47937-dsc00284.html
The tilt ball is 2 piece with a “C” spring in the middle. This spring wears on the shaft on all GMCs I have taken apart. When you get this deep
in the column you can remove the ball by bending the top part to lower right and slip the top shaft off. Do not rotate the shaft. Keep the same
orientation of the shaft but take the ball off and rotate it 180* and replace it on the lower shaft then replace the top shaft. Of course grease it.
This will put the spring on a virgin surface and tighten up the spring and joint.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47389-most-all-the-motorhomes-are-wore-here.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47388-wear-pattern.html
> No i have not, thanks Sully.
>
> I was just looking for "loose" steering components do to a bit of sloppy steering and while holding the lower column at the upper joint the wife
> could still move the wheel slightly so i figured the spheres might be the culprit.
>
> > Have you verified that the bolts holding the two halves of the ball cup
> > together are not loose? Back when we worked on those columns frequently
> > that was a common issue.
> >
> > Sully
> > Bellevue wa
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 3:51 PM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist <
> >
> > > Are worn or sloppy steering column spheres a common problem? I suspect
> > > lower column bearings are but other parts like this?
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Rich Mondor,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Brockville, ON
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 77 Hughes 2600
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
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C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
Mr Boyd thank you for the detailed info.
Question: is their a way to verify if its a loose pivot plate without taking it all apart? Can i hold something while turning something etc? Or does
it have to come apart.
Just for reference the coach has approx 60000miles.
> Sir, this is a guide to updating the column to turn signals on the stalk but should give you an idea of how to get to the 4 bolts that get loose
> under the turn signal switch. You will need to remove the shift lever housing and the upper tilt housing. You should be able to unplug the turn
> signal switch at bottom of column and raise it enough to clear the shaft and lay aside in the coach. You will need some grease and probably a small
> magnet to chase ball bearings and hold them in place to assemble.
> http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Sowers_Steering_Column_Upgrade_Repair.pdf
>
> There might be other issues when you get in there as the bearing and tilt housings are pot metal. Replacing these is the only repair if broken.
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47937-dsc00284.html
>
> The tilt ball is 2 piece with a “C” spring in the middle. This spring wears on the shaft on all GMCs I have taken apart. When you get this
> deep in the column you can remove the ball by bending the top part to lower right and slip the top shaft off. Do not rotate the shaft. Keep the
> same orientation of the shaft but take the ball off and rotate it 180* and replace it on the lower shaft then replace the top shaft. Of course
> grease it. This will put the spring on a virgin surface and tighten up the spring and joint.
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47389-most-all-the-motorhomes-are-wore-here.html
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47388-wear-pattern.html
>
>
> > No i have not, thanks Sully.
> >
> > I was just looking for "loose" steering components do to a bit of sloppy steering and while holding the lower column at the upper joint the
> > wife could still move the wheel slightly so i figured the spheres might be the culprit.
> >
> > > Have you verified that the bolts holding the two halves of the ball cup
> > > together are not loose? Back when we worked on those columns frequently
> > > that was a common issue.
> > >
> > > Sully
> > > Bellevue wa
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 3:51 PM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist <
> > >
> > > > Are worn or sloppy steering column spheres a common problem? I suspect
> > > > lower column bearings are but other parts like this?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Rich Mondor,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Brockville, ON
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 77 Hughes 2600
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > GMCnet mailing list
> > > >
> > > > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
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Rich Mondor,
Brockville, ON
77 Hughes 2600
Question: is their a way to verify if its a loose pivot plate without taking it all apart? Can i hold something while turning something etc? Or does
it have to come apart.
Just for reference the coach has approx 60000miles.
> Sir, this is a guide to updating the column to turn signals on the stalk but should give you an idea of how to get to the 4 bolts that get loose
> under the turn signal switch. You will need to remove the shift lever housing and the upper tilt housing. You should be able to unplug the turn
> signal switch at bottom of column and raise it enough to clear the shaft and lay aside in the coach. You will need some grease and probably a small
> magnet to chase ball bearings and hold them in place to assemble.
> http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Sowers_Steering_Column_Upgrade_Repair.pdf
>
> There might be other issues when you get in there as the bearing and tilt housings are pot metal. Replacing these is the only repair if broken.
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47937-dsc00284.html
>
> The tilt ball is 2 piece with a “C” spring in the middle. This spring wears on the shaft on all GMCs I have taken apart. When you get this
> deep in the column you can remove the ball by bending the top part to lower right and slip the top shaft off. Do not rotate the shaft. Keep the
> same orientation of the shaft but take the ball off and rotate it 180* and replace it on the lower shaft then replace the top shaft. Of course
> grease it. This will put the spring on a virgin surface and tighten up the spring and joint.
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47389-most-all-the-motorhomes-are-wore-here.html
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47388-wear-pattern.html
>
>
> > No i have not, thanks Sully.
> >
> > I was just looking for "loose" steering components do to a bit of sloppy steering and while holding the lower column at the upper joint the
> > wife could still move the wheel slightly so i figured the spheres might be the culprit.
> >
> > > Have you verified that the bolts holding the two halves of the ball cup
> > > together are not loose? Back when we worked on those columns frequently
> > > that was a common issue.
> > >
> > > Sully
> > > Bellevue wa
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 3:51 PM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist <
> > >
> > > > Are worn or sloppy steering column spheres a common problem? I suspect
> > > > lower column bearings are but other parts like this?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Rich Mondor,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Brockville, ON
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 77 Hughes 2600
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > GMCnet mailing list
> > > >
> > > > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
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Rich Mondor,
Brockville, ON
77 Hughes 2600
Sir, there is no way that I am aware of. There are different things that can cause it to be loose and usually there is more than just one thing out
of whack adding to the most obvious.
> Mr Boyd thank you for the detailed info.
>
> Question: is their a way to verify if its a loose pivot plate without taking it all apart? Can i hold something while turning something etc? Or
> does it have to come apart.
>
> Just for reference the coach has approx 60000miles.
>
>
> > Sir, this is a guide to updating the column to turn signals on the stalk but should give you an idea of how to get to the 4 bolts that get
> > loose under the turn signal switch. You will need to remove the shift lever housing and the upper tilt housing. You should be able to unplug the
> > turn signal switch at bottom of column and raise it enough to clear the shaft and lay aside in the coach. You will need some grease and probably
> > a small magnet to chase ball bearings and hold them in place to assemble.
> > http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Sowers_Steering_Column_Upgrade_Repair.pdf
> >
> > There might be other issues when you get in there as the bearing and tilt housings are pot metal. Replacing these is the only repair if
> > broken.
> > http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47937-dsc00284.html
> >
> > The tilt ball is 2 piece with a “C” spring in the middle. This spring wears on the shaft on all GMCs I have taken apart. When you get
> > this deep in the column you can remove the ball by bending the top part to lower right and slip the top shaft off. Do not rotate the shaft. Keep
> > the same orientation of the shaft but take the ball off and rotate it 180* and replace it on the lower shaft then replace the top shaft. Of
> > course grease it. This will put the spring on a virgin surface and tighten up the spring and joint.
> > http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47389-most-all-the-motorhomes-are-wore-here.html
> > http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47388-wear-pattern.html
> >
> >
> > > No i have not, thanks Sully.
> > >
> > > I was just looking for "loose" steering components do to a bit of sloppy steering and while holding the lower column at the upper joint
> > > the wife could still move the wheel slightly so i figured the spheres might be the culprit.
> > >
> > > > Have you verified that the bolts holding the two halves of the ball cup
> > > > together are not loose? Back when we worked on those columns frequently
> > > > that was a common issue.
> > > >
> > > > Sully
> > > > Bellevue wa
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 3:51 PM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist <
> > > >
> > > > > Are worn or sloppy steering column spheres a common problem? I suspect
> > > > > lower column bearings are but other parts like this?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Rich Mondor,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Brockville, ON
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 77 Hughes 2600
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > GMCnet mailing list
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C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
of whack adding to the most obvious.
> Mr Boyd thank you for the detailed info.
>
> Question: is their a way to verify if its a loose pivot plate without taking it all apart? Can i hold something while turning something etc? Or
> does it have to come apart.
>
> Just for reference the coach has approx 60000miles.
>
>
> > Sir, this is a guide to updating the column to turn signals on the stalk but should give you an idea of how to get to the 4 bolts that get
> > loose under the turn signal switch. You will need to remove the shift lever housing and the upper tilt housing. You should be able to unplug the
> > turn signal switch at bottom of column and raise it enough to clear the shaft and lay aside in the coach. You will need some grease and probably
> > a small magnet to chase ball bearings and hold them in place to assemble.
> > http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Sowers_Steering_Column_Upgrade_Repair.pdf
> >
> > There might be other issues when you get in there as the bearing and tilt housings are pot metal. Replacing these is the only repair if
> > broken.
> > http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47937-dsc00284.html
> >
> > The tilt ball is 2 piece with a “C” spring in the middle. This spring wears on the shaft on all GMCs I have taken apart. When you get
> > this deep in the column you can remove the ball by bending the top part to lower right and slip the top shaft off. Do not rotate the shaft. Keep
> > the same orientation of the shaft but take the ball off and rotate it 180* and replace it on the lower shaft then replace the top shaft. Of
> > course grease it. This will put the spring on a virgin surface and tighten up the spring and joint.
> > http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47389-most-all-the-motorhomes-are-wore-here.html
> > http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47388-wear-pattern.html
> >
> >
> > > No i have not, thanks Sully.
> > >
> > > I was just looking for "loose" steering components do to a bit of sloppy steering and while holding the lower column at the upper joint
> > > the wife could still move the wheel slightly so i figured the spheres might be the culprit.
> > >
> > > > Have you verified that the bolts holding the two halves of the ball cup
> > > > together are not loose? Back when we worked on those columns frequently
> > > > that was a common issue.
> > > >
> > > > Sully
> > > > Bellevue wa
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 3:51 PM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist <
> > > >
> > > > > Are worn or sloppy steering column spheres a common problem? I suspect
> > > > > lower column bearings are but other parts like this?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Rich Mondor,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Brockville, ON
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 77 Hughes 2600
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > GMCnet mailing list
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> > > > > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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> > > > >
> > > > >
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C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
