The East Coast has arrived in S. IN and N. KY

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Ken B

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If you are traveling on I-65 or I-265 between Kentucky and Indiana, they now have converted to a TOLL on all bridges. It will now cost you $7.00
without a transponder and $5.00 with one to cross the bridge. It always was free in the past.

Plan your traveling routes accordingly.

https://riverlink.com/
--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
> If you are traveling on I-65 or I-265 between Kentucky and Indiana, they now have converted to a TOLL on all bridges. It will now cost you $7.00
> without a transponder and $5.00 with one to cross the bridge. It always was free in the past.
>
> Plan your traveling routes accordingly.
>
> https://riverlink.com/

I bet there are going to be a lot of very surprised travelers. And a bunch of pissed off commuters.

Tolls are to pay for several new bridges and upgrades on existing. Still irritates me. They are supposed to be FREEWAYS!
--
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
 
Now, if the politicians who made this taxing decision were honest, they would agree to remove the tolls, after the new bridges were upgraded. However,
they are addicted to $$. It's their drug of choice. I know of this happening only once. The first tunnel under the river in Mobile (1948) was 25 cents
and the politicians promised to remove the tax when the bonds were retired. This tunnel is now free.
GMC portion; GMCs fit, SOB's do not.
Tom, MS II
--
1975 GMC Avion
KA4CSG
 
Thanks, Ken. This modifies sleeping choices for the Louisville KY dog show - which was once the biggest in the country in terms of entries. It's
next weekend. And Phipps is correct - the Alabam Legislooters tried to keep the money but Big Jim (Folsum) declared that they had promised, so oput
they came.
This would add one night's stay costs if I took the GMC and stayed in Indiana... which used to be the move.

--johnny
--
76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
 
> Now, if the politicians who made this taxing decision were honest, they would agree to remove the tolls, after the new bridges were upgraded.
> However, they are addicted to $$. It's their drug of choice. I know of this happening only once. The first tunnel under the river in Mobile (1948)
> was 25 cents and the politicians promised to remove the tax when the bonds were retired. This tunnel is now free.
> GMC portion; GMCs fit, SOB's do not.
> Tom, MS II

That makes twice that they kept a promise. (Wow, are we up to TWO already?)
The other I know of was the Defense Highway (now I-95) bridge over the Thames in New London/Groton Connecticut. This was in the late 50s early 60s,
we came up on what was the toll plaza and had change ready and the booths were GONE.

Matt
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SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
 
The turnpike between Fort Worth and Dallas opened in 1957 as a toll road with
the promise to remove the toll when it was paid off. That happened in 1977 and
the toll booths were removed a week later.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_30

bdub

-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist On Behalf Of Matt Colie
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 8:06 AM

> Now, if the politicians who made this taxing decision were honest, they would
agree to remove the tolls, after the new bridges were upgraded.
> However, they are addicted to $$. It's their drug of choice. I know of
> this happening only once. The first tunnel under the river in Mobile (1948)
was 25 cents and the politicians promised to remove the tax when the bonds were
retired. This tunnel is now free.

That makes twice that they kept a promise. (Wow, are we up to TWO already?) The
other I know of was the Defense Highway (now I-95) bridge over the Thames in New
London/Groton Connecticut. This was in the late 50s early 60s, we came up on
what was the toll plaza and had change ready and the booths were GONE.
 
That was one of the few toll roads where that happened.

Dolph Santorine

DE AD0LF

Wheeling, West Virginia

1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
1-ton, Sullybuilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010,

>
> The turnpike between Fort Worth and Dallas opened in 1957 as a toll road with
> the promise to remove the toll when it was paid off. That happened in 1977 and
> the toll booths were removed a week later.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_30
>
> bdub
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist On Behalf Of Matt Colie
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 8:06 AM
>

>> Now, if the politicians who made this taxing decision were honest, they would
> agree to remove the tolls, after the new bridges were upgraded.
>> However, they are addicted to $$. It's their drug of choice. I know of
>> this happening only once. The first tunnel under the river in Mobile (1948)
> was 25 cents and the politicians promised to remove the tax when the bonds were
> retired. This tunnel is now free.
>
>
> That makes twice that they kept a promise. (Wow, are we up to TWO already?) The
> other I know of was the Defense Highway (now I-95) bridge over the Thames in New
> London/Groton Connecticut. This was in the late 50s early 60s, we came up on
> what was the toll plaza and had change ready and the booths were GONE.
>
>
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Hmmmm? Trolls for tolls? Trust me, you pay for roads and bridges one way or
another. Check the price on your gas pumps. The taxes are more than the
product. The tax barons are far worse than the oil barons. In Oregon, there
presently is underway a "study", conducted by the department of revenue and
paid for out of, you guessed it, gasoline taxes, to see how much revenue is
being "LOST?" by hybrid and electric vehicles with their vastly improved
fuel economy. It includes monitors attached to these vehicles to record
miles traveled. They are thinking of adding a "per mile traveled" tax along
with gas taxes. Never quits.
Jim Hupy

> The turnpike between Fort Worth and Dallas opened in 1957 as a toll road
> with
> the promise to remove the toll when it was paid off. That happened in
> 1977 and
> the toll booths were removed a week later.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_30
>
> bdub
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist On Behalf Of Matt Colie
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 8:06 AM
>

> > Now, if the politicians who made this taxing decision were honest, they
> would
> agree to remove the tolls, after the new bridges were upgraded.
> > However, they are addicted to $$. It's their drug of choice. I know of
> > this happening only once. The first tunnel under the river in Mobile
> (1948)
> was 25 cents and the politicians promised to remove the tax when the bonds
> were
> retired. This tunnel is now free.
>
>
> That makes twice that they kept a promise. (Wow, are we up to TWO
> already?) The
> other I know of was the Defense Highway (now I-95) bridge over the Thames
> in New
> London/Groton Connecticut. This was in the late 50s early 60s, we came up
> on
> what was the toll plaza and had change ready and the booths were GONE.
>
>
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There was talk in the 79s of the legislature continuing the tolls on the
DFW Tollway. Fierce opposition arose with threats that "the citizens of
Texas would never again support any future tollway" if the original promise
to end collection after payback was not upheld.

I watched as they bulldozed the tollbooths in 1977, keeping that promise.
Now, according to Wikipedia:

"There are approximately 25 current *toll roads in the state of Texas*. Toll
roads
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Toll_Roads_in_the_United_States are
more common in Texas than in many other U.S. states, since the relatively
low revenues from the state's gasoline tax limits highway planners' means
to fund the construction and operation of highways."

The only difference since 1977 is that they no longer promise to ever end
toll collection!

Hugs,
Vern

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:55 AM Adolph Santorine
wrote:

> That was one of the few toll roads where that happened.
>
> Dolph Santorine
>
> DE AD0LF
>
> Wheeling, West Virginia
>
> 1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
> 1-ton, Sullybuilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission,
> EV-6010,
>
>

> >
> > The turnpike between Fort Worth and Dallas opened in 1957 as a toll road
> with
> > the promise to remove the toll when it was paid off. That happened in
> 1977 and
> > the toll booths were removed a week later.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_30
> >
> > bdub
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gmclist On Behalf Of Matt Colie
> > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 8:06 AM
> >

> >> Now, if the politicians who made this taxing decision were honest, they
> would
> > agree to remove the tolls, after the new bridges were upgraded.
> >> However, they are addicted to $$. It's their drug of choice. I know of
> >> this happening only once. The first tunnel under the river in Mobile
> (1948)
> > was 25 cents and the politicians promised to remove the tax when the
> bonds were
> > retired. This tunnel is now free.
> >
> >
> > That makes twice that they kept a promise. (Wow, are we up to TWO
> already?) The
> > other I know of was the Defense Highway (now I-95) bridge over the
> Thames in New
> > London/Groton Connecticut. This was in the late 50s early 60s, we came
> up on
> > what was the toll plaza and had change ready and the booths were GONE.
> >
> >
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Vern Crawford
2013-2014 Past-President
Hill Country Chapter http://txmn.org/hillcountry/
Texas Master Naturalist

155 J-J Lane
Center Point, TX 78010
(830) 634-2576 home
(618) 203-8296 cell
VernCrawford

[image: Texas Master Naturalist_small]
 
My post should have began:

There was talk in the 7Os of...

> Hmmmm? Trolls for tolls? Trust me, you pay for roads and bridges one way or
> another. Check the price on your gas pumps. The taxes are more than the
> product. The tax barons are far worse than the oil barons. In Oregon, there
> presently is underway a "study", conducted by the department of revenue and
> paid for out of, you guessed it, gasoline taxes, to see how much revenue is
> being "LOST?" by hybrid and electric vehicles with their vastly improved
> fuel economy. It includes monitors attached to these vehicles to record
> miles traveled. They are thinking of adding a "per mile traveled" tax along
> with gas taxes. Never quits.
> Jim Hupy
>

>
> > The turnpike between Fort Worth and Dallas opened in 1957 as a toll road
> > with
> > the promise to remove the toll when it was paid off. That happened in
> > 1977 and
> > the toll booths were removed a week later.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_30
> >
> > bdub
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gmclist On Behalf Of Matt Colie
> > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 8:06 AM
> >

> > > Now, if the politicians who made this taxing decision were honest, they
> > would
> > agree to remove the tolls, after the new bridges were upgraded.
> > > However, they are addicted to $$. It's their drug of choice. I know of
> > > this happening only once. The first tunnel under the river in Mobile
> > (1948)
> > was 25 cents and the politicians promised to remove the tax when the
> bonds
> > were
> > retired. This tunnel is now free.
> >
> >
> > That makes twice that they kept a promise. (Wow, are we up to TWO
> > already?) The
> > other I know of was the Defense Highway (now I-95) bridge over the Thames
> > in New
> > London/Groton Connecticut. This was in the late 50s early 60s, we came
> up
> > on
> > what was the toll plaza and had change ready and the booths were GONE.
> >
> >
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Hill Country Chapter http://txmn.org/hillcountry/
Texas Master Naturalist

155 J-J Lane
Center Point, TX 78010
(830) 634-2576 home
(618) 203-8296 cell
VernCrawford

[image: Texas Master Naturalist_small]
 
Render unto Caesar.......

tolls are a pretty regressive tax......but it does amuse when my fellow American complain about taxes...They have no idea just how low they are here.
--
Cary, NC

No Coach yet but likely center kitchen, dry side bath Royale, 78, 403, hopefully with good original white Imron paint.
 
Fuel tax plus a registration fee which reflected the true cost of the vehicle's weight would do. We need only overcome the trucking industries
lobbying to keep weight costs down. Or develop a flying pig, which would be more likely anyhow.

=--johnny
--
76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
 
Pete, I, for one American, do know the ratios and proportions of personal
income to taxation. Doesn't mean that I have to embrace the fact that taxes
rarely are removed or lowered. Our Representative form of government
provides some checks and balances to the increasing spiral of taxes and
fees. But I, and many of my friends are vigilant, and have to live within
our income. All that I ask, is for our local, state, and federal
governments do the same, and be wise stewards of our money. The less taxes
I pay means more discretionary funds I have to spend on fuel for my GMC.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403

On Mar 10, 2017 3:28 PM, "Johnny Bridges via Gmclist" <

> Fuel tax plus a registration fee which reflected the true cost of the
> vehicle's weight would do. We need only overcome the trucking industries
> lobbying to keep weight costs down. Or develop a flying pig, which would
> be more likely anyhow.
>
> =--johnny
> --
> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
>
>
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I believe Kentucky eliminated most of the tolls on their "Parkways" after they were paid off.

As far as this new toll system goes, it will bias me to avoid Jeffersonville, IN and Louisville, KY whenever possible. As an example, I go to Bean
Station every year, I have two fast routes and one slow route to choose from. One faster one is through Louisville and the other one is through
Cincinnati. Guess which way I am going now.

Actually what is going on here is there were 2 free bridges across the Ohio river there. They wanted to add a third one and pay for it with tolls.
The problem is with the new one being toll very few people would use it, so they put the same tolls on all 3 of the bridges. Problem solved.

I stay out of NE Illinois for the same reason. I did wander 2 miles over the line to buy an in stock $200 item a few weeks ago. I found that the
sales tax was now 10%.

--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
Anyone who wants to get the EZ pass can get them at www.ezdrivema.com They don't charge for the transponders or a monthly fee and they are good
anywhere you need an EZ pass. Some states charge for each transformer plus a monthly fee (Ohio). We live in Ohio and got the EZ pass from
Massachusetts with no problem. We have 2 setup for the cars and 1 for the GMC.

Jim Wagner
Brook Park, oh
76 GMC500
71 Vega355
69 Corvette383
 
> Anyone who wants to get the EZ pass can get them at www.ezdrivema.com They don't charge for the transponders or a monthly fee and they are good
> anywhere you need an EZ pass. Some states charge for each transformer plus a monthly fee (Ohio). We live in Ohio and got the EZ pass from
> Massachusetts with no problem. We have 2 setup for the cars and 1 for the GMC.
>
> Jim Wagner
> Brook Park, oh
> 76 GMC500
> 71 Vega355
> 69 Corvette383
Cool. Streamline the extortion.
--
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73 23' CanyonLands Parts Unit 4 Sale
Upper Alabama
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Friend ask, will the Ga PeachPass work?

--johnny
--
76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
"I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
 
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