Temperatures behind fridge

gary j zingle

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Arch my fridge quit working so I decided to do the flip it over and back
upright thing and hope for the best.
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Having done that the fridge is now sitting in my garage working fine.
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While I await help to put it back into the GMC I did some temp testing to=

determine where to put a temp activated switch for the fan I am installin=
g
under the coils.
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Before I began the temp testing I installed a flat piece of galvanized
metal behind the coils in an attempt to help convection move air past the=

coils. The galvanized also provided a location to attach the fan to.
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The fan I am using is the same as those used in electronics and is about =
4"
square, very quiet. I can't remember the exact draw but it is 12 volts
drawing less than 1/2 amp.
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All testing was done with both the fridge and freezer doors open. Since I=

don't have a good understanding of how the fridge regulates itself I
thought that this would cause it to run flat out. All testing was done wi=
th
the fridge running on 120 Volts. (it is a propane/120 volt unit)
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The following temperatures are without the fan I added running.
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The highest temperature I was able to measure at the upper fins was 92.7
degrees F (70.7 degree F room temp)
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The highest temperature I was able to measure at the pipe exiting the upp=
er
fins was 111.1 degrees F (70.8 degree room temp)
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The highest temperature I measured anywhere was 175 degrees F (70.7 degre=
e
room temp) at the point where the refrigerant pipe exits the top of the
tall insulated box (insulated box with propane burner at bottom)
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I must note that I did not measure the temperatures of the flame exhaust
pipe nor did I measure the temperature of the refrigerant pipe anywhere
inside the tall insulated box (nearer the burner). I am certain that thos=
e
temperatures would be higher.
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Even the little fan I am intending to use knocked 8.7 degrees F off the
upper fin temperature. (84.0 degrees F [70.7 degree room temp])
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I also tried to simulate the motorhome enclosure with pieces of plywood
behind and beside the fridge. The fin temperatures dropped a further 3.7
degrees F. (80.3 degrees F [70.8 degree room temp]) I suspect that the
enclosure increased the ability of convection currents to move air past t=
he
warm stuff.
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Now that I have gone through this I wish I had done some testing prior to=

installing the galvanized on the back of the fins - - - - - - - oh well.
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Although I tried to be scientific and the instrument I used is a reasonab=
ly
accurate digital unit, there are probably some errors introduced by these=

methods (especially given my limited knowlege of these fridges).
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One thing for sure, the temperatures in the space surrounding the install=
ed
fridge can get considerably higher than the room temperatures I tested at=
.
For example, I have no idea what the impact to fin temperatures air in th=
e
enclosure of, say 105 degree F might be, but I think I might take a few
more readings once I reinstall the fridge.
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I don't believe this is the original fridge. I don't know how similar oth=
er
makes or models might be.
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I certainly can see some advantage to placing the fan in the exhaust vent=

as you are planning since the heat from the fridge can radiate through th=
e
interior partitions surrounding the fridge thereby heating the interior o=
f
the coach (only in the summer though when you don't need it, see Murphys
law #492 :>).
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One thing I have always done on any RV I have ever owned is if the fridge=

comes out the partitions adjacent get an air barrier and insulation befor=
e
the fridge goes back in to reduce this unwanted heat soak as well as dust=

sucked into the coach through the fridge vents etc.
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I hope to get the fridge back in Saturday, if I get more temp info I will=

get the exhaust temp and the refrigerant pipe where it leaves the burner.=

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Regards
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Gary Zingle
1973 GMC 26 foot
Enjoying another day in Edmonton
 
Yes, I have a rear wall, but maybe not close enough. At the 4 setting, the refg
(120/12 - original?) was 40 degrees and the freezer was about 20 after about 12
hrs on 120 shore line. And it kept the cold pretty well on 12 V after I shut down
the gen.

Wayne Newland F9300 75 Palm Beach

> In a message dated 8/28/99 1:26:51 AM Central Daylight Time,

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> > >
> > I also tried to simulate the motorhome enclosure with pieces of plywood
> > behind and beside the fridge. The fin temperatures dropped a further 3.7
> > degrees F. (80.3 degrees F [70.8 degree room temp]) I suspect that the
> > enclosure increased the ability of convection currents to move air past the
> > warm stuff.
> >
> Gary
>
> NICE JOB! I think we are getting somewhere. From what you have said
> and what Duane has said it seems like the rear wall may be something
> we should take a look at. Does anybody have a rear wall behind the reefer?
> What kind of sensor are you going to use to turn on the fan? Where did
> you get it? Sounds like something I might need. How far behind the
> reefer is the galvanized that you used? I am glad the old turn it upside
> down trick worked for you. The first time my local dealer told me about
> this I thought he was crazy. That was many moons ago. I have done it
> to several units now and all have improved afterwards. Hang in there
> I think we are getting somewhere on this whole refrigerator thing. At
> least I know more than I did yesterday----that means I am still learning.
>
> Take Care
> Arch 76 GB IL