Temp gauge for bearing temp or other uses

roger black

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Following is a quote to Specialty Sales (me) from a supplier. Any interest?
Temp sender is not what I was looking for, but gauge AND sender for 20
bucks. Will just take a bigger glob of J-B Weld to attach it to the bearing
housings.

"In the VDO line, which is all we handle, we have a 400f temp gage and
sender that you can buy from stock pn 310 091 is the kit that includes the
gage and sender in Cockpit style. The sender has 1/8 npt threads and is
brass. List is $39.00 and your cost would be 1/2 off plus we pay the
shipping on shipments of $300 or more."

Would need the great volume of 8 sets to qualify for the free shipping.
Way I figure it:
$39.00 Two VDO gauges with temp senders
3.20 Priority mail - think this is what it is now
1.00 To GMCMotorhome.com donation for site upkeep
$43.20 Total per set of two gauges

Any body interested, email me direct at rblack and we'll play
it by ear from here.

Roger
 
Kinda jumped the gun on the gauge. This particular gauge is for trans temp,
hence the 400 F max. The one I was really interested in was an oil temp
that peaks at 300 F. The 300F is the max before destruction may start to
take place. Maybe we need the 400 instead of the 300, Ideas?

Roger
 
> Following is a quote to Specialty Sales (me) from a supplier. ...."In the VDO
> line, which is all we handle, need the great volume of 8 sets to qualify for
> the free shipping.

Roger, I'm ignorant about this term"VDO" . What's it mean?
Phil Stewart
'76 Transmode, TN
 
Roger, I wonder if one of our GMCNet electrical engineers could design an
alarm system that uses this low cost technology? We have a great deal of
interest in our front bearing temps, but only when they are out of line.
Additionally, we have little room for additional gages.

Scott Shean
78 Royale
Baton Rouge, LA

>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-gmcmotorhome
>[mailto:owner-gmcmotorhome]On Behalf Of Roger Black
>Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 3:51 PM
>To: GMC chat
>Subject: GMC: Temp gauge for bearing temp or other uses
>
>
>Following is a quote to Specialty Sales (me) from a supplier. Any
>interest?
>Temp sender is not what I was looking for, but gauge AND sender for 20
>bucks. Will just take a bigger glob of J-B Weld to attach it to
>the bearing
>housings.
>
>"In the VDO line, which is all we handle, we have a 400f temp gage and
>sender that you can buy from stock pn 310 091 is the kit that includes the
>gage and sender in Cockpit style. The sender has 1/8 npt threads and is
>brass. List is $39.00 and your cost would be 1/2 off plus we pay the
>shipping on shipments of $300 or more."
>
>Would need the great volume of 8 sets to qualify for the free shipping.
>Way I figure it:
>$39.00 Two VDO gauges with temp senders
> 3.20 Priority mail - think this is what it is now
> 1.00 To GMCMotorhome.com donation for site upkeep
>$43.20 Total per set of two gauges
>
>Any body interested, email me direct at rblack and we'll play
>it by ear from here.
>
>Roger
>
>
 
Scott:

I believe such a device has been developed and it was offered here 11 =
days
back. Is this not what you're trying to reinvent?? Here it is again =
below.

Paul Bartz

From: Horst H. Becker [mailto:horstb]
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 1999 4:11 PM
Subject: Electrical Circuits Available

I recently took early retirement and finally got a chance to use the =
GMC for
more than a few outings. As might be expected not all went well all the =
time
although we sure enjoy this unit.=20

Part of the refurbishing I was not able to get some replacement parts =
so I
designed my own in addition to some new ones. Attached are descriptions =
of
these circuits and if the need ever arises then give me a call.=20

=20
203 N. Clark Dr.
Palatine, IL 60067
Tel. (847) 776-6708
FAX (847) 776-6709
email horstb

MKM Electronics, Inc.

Horst H. Becker gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

HB8 - 1 Front Bearing Temperature Monitor

Description:=20
This monitor will alternately display the temperature of the driver &
passenger side wheel hub/ball bearing (approximately every 35 to 45
seconds). An LED will indicate which side is being reported. A red LED =
will
light if the measured temperature exceeds 200 degree F. The viewing =
module
is about 3 =BD" x 2 =BD".
The temperature measurement is an approximate measurement of the =
front
bearings, and is a highly repeatable measurement. The temperature =
sensor is
located about 1/2" from the bearing race separated by a metal paste, =
which
further removes the measuring sensor. Thus it means that the actual
temperature of the bearing is somewhat higher.

After about 10 min. of sustained steady driving speed each temperature =
unit
will show a repeatable temperature reading (though they may differ,
especially if one wheel is in direct sun shine). If this reading =
steadily
increases based on similar driving conditions then something is =
happening
with the bearings. A close inspection should follow as soon as =
possible. It
is possible that during repeated heavy braking, such as mountain =
driving;
the temperature of the bearing will increase. At this time it is not =
certain
to what extent that will be visible. If it is substantial, based on =
feedback
from users, then this sensor can be used to monitor the brake =
temperature
also. (Simultaneous) The sensors can actually be mounted on the brake
caliper instead of the hub, thus reporting brake temperature.

NOTE: THIS IS NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE OF THE BEARINGS =
OR
BRAKES!!!!!

Installation:
The sensors are mounted directly to the hub, close to the bearing =
by
drilling a 3/16" hole about 1/4" deep. This can be done from the top =
without
removing the wheel by raising the coach about six in. for easy access. =
The
wires are routed along the control arms into the coach behind the fuse =
panel
for passenger side sensor, and by the steering column for the driver =
side
sensor.=20

Inside the GMC, there are two locations for suggested mounting, using
adhesive strips. First, a location between the two big circles - =
speedometer
& other. The second location is right next to the battery booster =
switch &
the steering column.

From: Scott Shean [mailto:shean]
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 1:02 AM
Subject: RE: GMC: Temp gauge for bearing temp or other uses

Roger, I wonder if one of our GMCNet electrical engineers could design =
an
alarm system that uses this low cost technology? We have a great deal =
of
interest in our front bearing temps, but only when they are out of =
line.
Additionally, we have little room for additional gages.

From: owner-gmcmotorhome On Behalf Of Roger Black
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 3:51 PM
Subject: GMC: Temp gauge for bearing temp or other uses

Following is a quote to Specialty Sales (me) from a supplier. Any =
interest?
Temp sender is not what I was looking for, but gauge AND sender for 20
bucks. Will just take a bigger glob of J-B Weld to attach it to the =
bearing
housings.

"In the VDO line, which is all we handle, we have a 400f temp gage and
sender that you can buy from stock pn 310 091 is the kit that includes =
the
gage and sender in Cockpit style. The sender has 1/8 npt threads and =
is
brass. List is $39.00 and your cost would be 1/2 off plus we pay the
shipping on shipments of $300 or more."

Would need the great volume of 8 sets to qualify for the free shipping. =
Way
I figure it: $39.00 Two VDO gauges with temp senders=20
3.20 Priority mail - think this is what it is now
1.00 To GMCMotorhome.com donation for site upkeep
$43.20 Total per set of two gauges

Any body interested, email me direct at rblack and we'll =
play
it by ear from here.
 
Scott:

I believe such a device has been developed and it was offered here 11 days
back. Is this not what you're trying to reinvent?? Here it is again below.

Paul Bartz

some pics too at: http://www.bytedesigns.com/gmc/hub_moni.htm

I'm going to drop Horst at note re JB Weld or equiv in place of drilling for
the sensor.
I'm still hoping to add to the AV10 but may do something in the interm.

Heinz
 
Paul

Thanks for re-posting. If I saw it the first time, I didn't understand what the
big deal was all about.

Wayne Newland

> Scott:
>
> I believe such a device has been developed and it was offered here 11 days
> back. Is this not what you're trying to reinvent?? Here it is again below.
>
> Paul Bartz
>
> some pics too at: http://www.bytedesigns.com/gmc/hub_moni.htm
>
> I'm going to drop Horst at note re JB Weld or equiv in place of drilling for
> the sensor.
> I'm still hoping to add to the AV10 but may do something in the interm.
>
> Heinz
 
>All I want is
>some warning that, oil, water, trans, hubs, engine compartment are below
or
>above (oil pressure), a selected value. ....

What you are asking for is a simple "idiot light" system. This can be
easily implemented with pressure switches and temperature switches. The
"low oil" switch used on most cars (that don't have gauges) will work for
oil pressure. The temperature switches used on most cars are usually set a
bit high for the cooling system but would probably work well for the hubs
and trans oil temps. There are also switches avalable with various
temperature settings. Unfortunately I cant remember the name of the
companies who make them. If I get a chance to look it up I will post what I
find.

Dave
Ann Arbor, MI.
73 Sequoia (26'/455/EFI/HEI)