Storage pod replacement

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thomas g. warner

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ARch is that true the pod was just attached to the skin on top and not the
roof spars? I am in the process of putting a new pod on mine and have been
looking at it to decide how to mount it, whether to use the old holes or
drill new ones. I was going to make a jig to trasfer the hole spacing from
the old pod to the new one so I can use the same holes.

What do you think?
.

>Patrick
>
>Take a look at this. Word must have gotten back. The horse will drink!
>Call it tough love Patrick. Sorry all I have a real need to make people
>understand how important the net is. I will push when I feel the need.
>Jim tell them how hard I leaned on you to get a website up. I love this
>place! Hope the new year finds all of you "out and about." I am feeling
>very good tonight. I finished the headliner today. Its all in! The problem
>was not the headliner itself but all of the wiring that had to be in place
>before I could put it up. This is my downfall. We each have our quirks.
>Mine is do it right. There is now 120 feet of coax in my lady and over
>150 feet of 14 gauge speaker wire. No pod can be put on my rig hooked
>to the roof spars------they all have wires or water lines in them. Just
>have to bolt it down to the sheet metal as it was at the factory.
>Patrick has some of the pics will send the rest if I can stay sober.
>
>Take Care
>Arch
>
>Date: 12/31/98 9:56:30 AM Central Standard Time
>From: sirum (Alex Sirum)
>Reply-to: sirum
>To: Gcbr
>
>Mr. Archer,
>
>Sorry to take so long in answering your E-mail but we have been
>extremely buisy over the Holidays. When we recieved your E-mail we
>printed it and left it out so we could look to see if we had these
>formica fronts for you and also the doors for the cabinet over the
>dinette. After looking around we could not come up with these items for
>you. Once again I apologize for the wait. Thank You
>
>-Any other questions please call.
>
>> Arch,
>>
>> Don't be too hard on Alex. He's a good guy, but I doubt he will ever be
>> an avid net user. Dave's "horse to water" analogy might have been more
>> appropriately "old dog - new tricks". The Sirum's have been very
>> helpful to me when I've called them. With some of these guys, you just
>> gotta use the phone. If Alex had lived in the 1800's, he probably would
>> have stuck with using telegrams instead of those newfangled,
>> undependable telephones. :o)
>>
>> The Sirums are a good source for some hard to find pieces. Give 'em a
>> call.
>
>
Tom & Marg Warner
Vernon Center NY
1976 palmbeach
 
My pod has two 3/4" square x 60" aluminum "runners" under it,screwed to
the roof spars.
Rob Teed 74 Painted Desert

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gmcmotorhome
> [mailto:owner-gmcmotorhome]On Behalf Of Adohen
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 1998 11:11 PM
> To: gmcmotorhome
> Subject: Re: GMC: Storage pod replacement
>
>
>
> I think you will certainly be able to find where the roof
> spars are when
> you get up there and can notice how the roof sags when you are
> not over a roof
> spar.
>
> There should be someone out there who can document with
> measurements the
> exact location of these roof spars. How about measuring from
> either the top
> of the front or top of the back window to the center of these cross spars.
> Certainly, we should somehow get these dimensions posted.
>
> Happy New Year,
>
> Scott Adohen
>
 
Tom,

Last summer I removed the factory original (Coachman) roof pod from my
Birchaven. The pod mounting crossbars were just riveted through the skin.
Fairly god-sized rivets, I'm guessing 7/32" or 1/4".

Richard Guthart

>ARch is that true the pod was just attached to the skin on top and not the
>roof spars? I am in the process of putting a new pod on mine and have been
>looking at it to decide how to mount it, whether to use the old holes or
>drill new ones.
 
Scott I have that information but did not know if the pod was normally
attached to them. On mine the original pod was not.

The dimensions of the spars all have as a reference point the radio antenna
on top which is centered on the first rafter. On 26 foot models there are 6
rafters and on 23 foot there are 5. The spacing for all rafters are the
same starting from the centerline of the antenna.

1. Second rafter is 41.7"
2. Third rafter is 83.4"
3. fourth rafter is 129.25"
4. Fifth rafter is 166.8"
5. Sixth rafter is 202.8" on 26' coaches

There are also 2 parallel rafters that provide basic strenghtening for the
roof vents and air conditioners. they are not suitable for pod mounting
because of their configuration which is different than the spars. They are
centered in the roof and their inside edges are 20.3" apart in the first,
second, third, and fifth sections on 26"coaches and first, second,adn fourth
sections on the 23' coaches

>
> I think you will certainly be able to find where the roof spars are when
>you get up there and can notice how the roof sags when you are not over a roof
>spar.
>
> There should be someone out there who can document with measurements the
>exact location of these roof spars. How about measuring from either the top
>of the front or top of the back window to the center of these cross spars.
>Certainly, we should somehow get these dimensions posted.
>
>Happy New Year,
>
>Scott Adohen
>
>
Tom & Marg Warner
Vernon Center NY
1976 palmbeach
 
Once upon a time last year, I took down my ceiling to replace the headliner and
lo and behold, I found a bunch of putty, so being real smart, I removed same
and found that someone had installed a roof pod and decided to take it off. I
did take some pictures of the 40 odd holes that came through the ceiling to
mount the pod, and they did not go into the structural members. The one
structural member has the water lines running through it and thus, I would not
recommend going into that one... one mistake and you have lots of other
problems. Thus I do have some pictures, lo, not with my digital camera which
do show how the ceiling is fabricated. If they would help someone, I could get
someone to scan them in for the group. They do show the places where things
happen up there. I was just surprised that the pod was connected with so many
holes going through the roof.

Hope this helps.

By the way "HAPPY NEW YEAR - ONE AND ALL"

AL Chernoff
77 Eleganza II

> Tom,
>
> Last summer I removed the factory original (Coachman) roof pod from my
> Birchaven. The pod mounting crossbars were just riveted through the skin.
> Fairly god-sized rivets, I'm guessing 7/32" or 1/4".
>
> Richard Guthart
>
> >ARch is that true the pod was just attached to the skin on top and not the
> >roof spars? I am in the process of putting a new pod on mine and have been
> >looking at it to decide how to mount it, whether to use the old holes or
> >drill new ones.
 
My original pod had 10 metal screws with rubber grommets and the new pod has
the same.

>Once upon a time last year, I took down my ceiling to replace the headliner and
>lo and behold, I found a bunch of putty, so being real smart, I removed same
>and found that someone had installed a roof pod and decided to take it off. I
>did take some pictures of the 40 odd holes that came through the ceiling to
>mount the pod, and they did not go into the structural members. The one
>structural member has the water lines running through it and thus, I would not
>recommend going into that one... one mistake and you have lots of other
>problems. Thus I do have some pictures, lo, not with my digital camera which
>do show how the ceiling is fabricated. If they would help someone, I could get
>someone to scan them in for the group. They do show the places where things
>happen up there. I was just surprised that the pod was connected with so many
>holes going through the roof.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>By the way "HAPPY NEW YEAR - ONE AND ALL"
>
>AL Chernoff
>77 Eleganza II
>

>
>> Tom,
>>
>> Last summer I removed the factory original (Coachman) roof pod from my
>> Birchaven. The pod mounting crossbars were just riveted through the skin.
>> Fairly god-sized rivets, I'm guessing 7/32" or 1/4".
>>
>> Richard Guthart
>>
>> >ARch is that true the pod was just attached to the skin on top and not the
>> >roof spars? I am in the process of putting a new pod on mine and have been
>> >looking at it to decide how to mount it, whether to use the old holes or
>> >drill new ones.
>
>
>
Tom & Marg Warner
Vernon Center NY
1976 palmbeach
 
Scott i left out the dimensions of the spars. They are a hat cross section
and measure 3 1/2" wide at the bottom (towards the inside of the coach), and
the top of the hat that contacts the roof measures 1 3/4" wide and the edges
are 7/8" wide.

>In a message dated 1/1/99 11:05:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, warner
>writes:
>
>> Scott I have that information but did not know if the pod was normally
>> attached to them. On mine the original pod was not.
>>
>> The dimensions of the spars all have as a reference point the radio antenna
>> on top which is centered on the first rafter. On 26 foot models there are 6
>> rafters and on 23 foot there are 5. The spacing for all rafters are the
>> same starting from the centerline of the antenna.
>>
>> 1. Second rafter is 41.7"
>> 2. Third rafter is 83.4"
>> 3. Fourth rafter is 129.25"
>> 4. Fifth rafter is 166.8"
>> 5. Sixth rafter is 202.8" on 26' coaches
>>
>> There are also 2 parallel rafters that provide basic strengthening for the
>> roof vents and air conditioners. They are not suitable for pod mounting
>> because of their configuration which is different than the spars. They are
>> centered in the roof and their inside edges are 20.3" apart in the first,
>> second, third, and fifth sections on 26 "coaches and first, second, and
>fourth
>> sections on the 23' coaches
>>
>>
>> The rafters all have a common center
>
>
>Thanks Tom,
>
>Copied the information. BTW I thought the antennae on the roof was for the
>CB, now I know it's for the radio. The one attached to my mirror I suspect is
>for the CB then. ----To technical for the brain after last night.
>
>
>Scott Adohen
>
>
Tom & Marg Warner
Vernon Center NY
1976 palmbeach
 
Arch,

I filled the holes with JB Weld. I stuffed some of those Styrofoam packing
"peanuts" in the hole and wedged them against the inner roof panels to
provide a base for the epoxy to sit on while it hardened.

Richard Guthart

Mine was fasten down with huge sheetmetal
>screws. I have no Idea how I am going to fill in the 3/4 inch holes
>
>Take Care
>Arch 76 GB IL
 
Arch,

I cannot attest to durability as I have only had the coach since July. I
think it was Sept. when I patched the holes.

Having said that, JB Weld is a very rugged epoxy and I expect that it is a
permanent repair. If anyone has had experience to the contrary with this
product please let me know and I will keep an eye on the patches.

After the epoxy was fully cured I sanded the spots down to nearly flush. I
say "nearly" because I left the repair just a little raised. Given the
location, I was more concerned with the quality of the bond than I was with
whether or not there would be a visible hint of the repair following
repainting.

Richard Guthart

- -----Original Message-----
From: Gcbr
To: gmcmotorhome
Date: Saturday, January 02, 1999 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: GMC: Storage pod replacement

>Richard
>
>Sounds like a plan to me. How long have they held?
>
>Take Care
>Arch 76 GB IL
>
>In a message dated 1/2/99 8:18:05 AM Central Standard Time,
rguthart
>writes:
>
>>
>> I filled the holes with JB Weld. I stuffed some of those Styrofoam
packing
>> "peanuts" in the hole and wedged them against the inner roof panels to
>> provide a base for the epoxy to sit on while it hardened.
>>
>
 
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