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burt and faye curtis

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O have Gene Fisher up here and solved non start problem. However turned
wheels all the way to right to acess battery and shut off engine. Now can't
start again as column is locked. Any suggestions? Have wheels off ground.

Thanks,

Fay
76 Glenbrook
 
Turn the wheel hard against the stop. Try to “bounce” the wheel back and
forth while wiggling the key.

Sully
77 eleganza 2
Bellevue.

On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 10:36 AM Burt and Faye curtis <

> O have Gene Fisher up here and solved non start problem. However turned
> wheels all the way to right to acess battery and shut off engine. Now can't
> start again as column is locked. Any suggestions? Have wheels off ground.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Fay
> 76 Glenbrook
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Steering wheel that is.

> Turn the wheel hard against the stop. Try to “bounce” the wheel back and
> forth while wiggling the key.
>
> Sully
> 77 eleganza 2
> Bellevue.
>
> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 10:36 AM Burt and Faye curtis <

>
>> O have Gene Fisher up here and solved non start problem. However turned
>> wheels all the way to right to acess battery and shut off engine. Now
>> can't
>> start again as column is locked. Any suggestions? Have wheels off ground.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Fay
>> 76 Glenbrook
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You need to try and load it in the direction it is already maxed out in in
order to unload the lock pin in the column.

Sully
77 eleganza 2
Bellevue

On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 11:43 AM Burt and Faye curtis <

> >
> > Problem is can't get steering wheel to move at all. Going to remove horn
> > cover and see if can work lock mechanism that way.
>
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> 76 Glenbrook
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Fay
You need to do as Todd says and really reed on the steering wheel while turning the key.
Removing the steering wheel will not help.

Emery Stora

>
> You need to try and load it in the direction it is already maxed out in in
> order to unload the lock pin in the column.
>
> Sully
> 77 eleganza 2
> Bellevue
>
> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 11:43 AM Burt and Faye curtis <

>
>>>
>>> Problem is can't get steering wheel to move at all. Going to remove horn
>>> cover and see if can work lock mechanism that way.
>>
>>
>> Fay
>> 76 Glenbrook
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Faye, tilt the wheel.
Jim Hupy

On Feb 3, 2018 11:43 AM, "Burt and Faye curtis" <

> >
> > Problem is can't get steering wheel to move at all. Going to remove horn
> > cover and see if can work lock mechanism that way.
>
>
> Fay
> 76 Glenbrook
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Faye,

If you take off the horn button, it will not get you very far. You would have to take off the steering wheel, remove the turn signal switch and then
have the lock plate removing tool (you can often borrow at a parts store) to get the steering column lock plate loose. And that may not want to come
loose with load on it. But it cold probably be convinced to do so with little collateral damage.

If Jim's straighten the tilt or straighten the column and Sully's shake the wheel don't get it, have a gorilla (that big guy that will almost anything
for a beer) try to turn farther the way the wheels are now. That may unload the lock enough to move it.

The wheels are off the ground, so the load is all in the steering gear and not the tires. But, if enough parts have been replaced and not quite
right, then the stop load in the steering could be high because it is also against the knuckle stops. Strangely, this may just get to be less if the
tires are back on the ground and the tie-rods can unload the system. I used to have all kinds of trouble like this before I got things phased
correctly. Right now, you really need Alex or Chuck looking in.

If you get really desperate, I have two ideas (that I will review the relative merit off) that might help.

One try you might do is would be to remove the pinch bolt from the CV joint at the bottom of the column and tap the CV joint off the the actual
steering shaft. If you are locked against the stop in the steering box, the spline may need some dressing with a file to go back on. My 73 has
enough travel in the sliding coupler to do this.

The other would be to loosen the four bolts that hold the steering box to the left frame rail. This could only be a monumental PITA, but it would
have the advantage of zero collateral damage. This will work on a GMC only because of the CV-Slip-UJoint that is there so the steering box can go any
way it needs to. You shouldn't need to take the bolts out and don't. You have to know how heavy that puppy is and all it needs is to give you some
slack.

Good Luck

Matt

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>
> First a thank you to everyone for the ideas, but fixed it with help from
> Ken Burton and Chuck Boyd. Had to remove the steering wheel - easy enough
> once got the right tools and bolts that weren't bent or stripped, then the
> plastic cover. This exposed the locking pin that was entrenched. A few
> smart blows ( technical term I learned from Bert) and in popped out, which
> allowed the key to turn. One benifit, now my steering wheel is spot on, not
> one or two degrees of center.

There was no gorilla big enough to make that wheel turn without something
breaking.
Thanks again,

Fay Curtis
76 Glenbrook

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Yahoooo tanks everyone we going on thanks for all your help bye now

On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 5:08 PM Burt and Faye curtis <

> >
> > First a thank you to everyone for the ideas, but fixed it with help from
> > Ken Burton and Chuck Boyd. Had to remove the steering wheel - easy enough
> > once got the right tools and bolts that weren't bent or stripped, then
> the
> > plastic cover. This exposed the locking pin that was entrenched. A few
> > smart blows ( technical term I learned from Bert) and in popped out,
> which
> > allowed the key to turn. One benifit, now my steering wheel is spot on,
> not
> > one or two degrees of center.
>
> There was no gorilla big enough to make that wheel turn without something
> breaking.
> Thanks again,
>
> Fay Curtis
> 76 Glenbrook
>
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