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thomas g. warner

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heinz if my new Michelins are any indication of how round and uniform their
tires are now, than they are damn good. As I previously noted the shop did
not have time to balance them the day I got them installed. First time I
drove it to a rally (only 10 miles) was absolutely astonished how smooth
they were on the road, no bounce, absoluely smooth..

>Wonder if the big boys (Michelin etc.) as Tom suggested, would be
>interested NOW... in our collective data if we were capturing it before,
>during, and after, explosive decompression... as we could call it.
>
>Remember how interested they were in getting the tires back (wasn't it
>the failed one and the still good one). That could save a bunch of
>dollars for them at the rates their own lab guys have to charge and all
>the equipment they have to order. And with Heinz's already demonstrated
>ability to allow several of us, maybe many of us, to send excell-ready
>data to them... Heck they ought to be paying us to collect the data, and
>provide the best and roundest and freshest Michelins culled for us right
>at the plant. Then we would not need no stinking truing. I think we
>could pay the UPS fees, it seems like the least we could do, if they were
>going to supply the tires.
>
>I hate to say it, but I think we could work a deal with someone that
>would save us some money, save them a bunch of money, and get them some
>data that they would probably never see otherwise.
>
>You know MIT did something like this and got a bunch of companies to
>contribute equipment, supplies, and or money, in return for sharing
>access to the data. Some of the companies joined up just to see if the
>data was any different than the data they already had, and/or to know
>what their competitors were now learning from the data.
>
>more later....
>
>
>>Pete... how about looking into it some?
>
>>Heinz
>
>
>
>> Hey Heinz and Hawk.ii et al...
>>
>> > Even though I have the Tire Sentry. I'm thinking that knowing temp and
>> > actual pressure may have some additional value, as in a stuck brake or
>> > overheating bearing may transfer some of that heat to the rim and hence
>> > to the sensor.
>>
>> At the possible $250 for a six wheel system, the sensors can't be too
>> expensive. What if we asked them to include two additional sensors and
>> mounted them on the front wheel someplace where the heat of an
>> overheating front wheel bearing would reach faster than the rim of the
>> wheel. I not a thermodynaticist, but I'm sure we've got one on the net.
>> Maybe the rim on an alcoa is not too far away thermodynatically from the
>> bearings and then again maybe not.
>>
>> --
>> "I do whatever my Rice Krispies tell me to..."
>> John said, err "Frosty the Snowman" said, from inside a 1974 Glacier.
>>
>>
>
>
>--
>"I do whatever my Rice Krispies tell me to..."
>John said, err "Frosty the Snowman" said, from inside a 1974 Glacier.
>
>
>
Tom & Marg Warner
Vernon Center NY
1976 palmbeach
"The beautiful Mohawk Vally"
 
That's good to hear.
Plunked the old CC down the other day to make sure I have 'em when I'm
ready.

I better pick them up today before I leave so that they don't sell 'em on me
and then can't get more right away ;-)

Making the change to 225 from 215 as well so I had to get 'em to reorder.

BTW, I'm going to try and track some wheel and hub temps somewhat
unscientifically with my laser gadget. Unscientifically mainly due to having
to try to take the temps immediately upon stopping and in same sequence.

Heinz
...finally ready to hitch up the ol' toad today. Had to wait for rain, seems
like :-)

> heinz if my new Michelins are any indication of how round and uniform
their
> tires are now, than they are damn good. As I previously noted the shop
did
> not have time to balance them the day I got them installed. First time I
> drove it to a rally (only 10 miles) was absolutely astonished how smooth
> they were on the road, no bounce, absoluely smooth..
>
>

> >Wonder if the big boys (Michelin etc.) as Tom suggested, would be
> >interested NOW... in our collective data if we were capturing it before,
> >during, and after, explosive decompression... as we could call it.
> >
> >Remember how interested they were in getting the tires back (wasn't it
> >the failed one and the still good one). That could save a bunch of
> >dollars for them at the rates their own lab guys have to charge and all
> >the equipment they have to order. And with Heinz's already demonstrated
> >ability to allow several of us, maybe many of us, to send excell-ready
> >data to them... Heck they ought to be paying us to collect the data, and
> >provide the best and roundest and freshest Michelins culled for us right
> >at the plant. Then we would not need no stinking truing. I think we
> >could pay the UPS fees, it seems like the least we could do, if they were
> >going to supply the tires.
> >
> >I hate to say it, but I think we could work a deal with someone that
> >would save us some money, save them a bunch of money, and get them some
> >data that they would probably never see otherwise.
> >
> >You know MIT did something like this and got a bunch of companies to
> >contribute equipment, supplies, and or money, in return for sharing
> >access to the data. Some of the companies joined up just to see if the
> >data was any different than the data they already had, and/or to know
> >what their competitors were now learning from the data.
> >
> >more later....
> >
> >
> >>Pete... how about looking into it some?
> >
> >>Heinz
> >
> >
> >
> >> Hey Heinz and Hawk.ii et al...
> >>
> >> > Even though I have the Tire Sentry. I'm thinking that knowing temp
and
> >> > actual pressure may have some additional value, as in a stuck brake
or
> >> > overheating bearing may transfer some of that heat to the rim and
hence
> >> > to the sensor.
> >>
> >> At the possible $250 for a six wheel system, the sensors can't be too
> >> expensive. What if we asked them to include two additional sensors and
> >> mounted them on the front wheel someplace where the heat of an
> >> overheating front wheel bearing would reach faster than the rim of the
> >> wheel. I not a thermodynaticist, but I'm sure we've got one on the
net.
> >> Maybe the rim on an alcoa is not too far away thermodynatically from
the
> >> bearings and then again maybe not.
> >>
> >> --
> >> "I do whatever my Rice Krispies tell me to..."
> >> John said, err "Frosty the Snowman" said, from inside a 1974 Glacier.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >--
> >"I do whatever my Rice Krispies tell me to..."
> >John said, err "Frosty the Snowman" said, from inside a 1974 Glacier.
> >
> >
> >
> Tom & Marg Warner
> Vernon Center NY
> 1976 palmbeach
> "The beautiful Mohawk Vally"
>
>