shore power gfci tripping solution found

rgogan

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Suddenly, unless I plugged into a non GFCI shore power outlet, the GFCI would trip. My 44 year old plug looked suspicious as the individual wires
have been creeping out of it gradually for years. However, before I amputated the cord end and put on an aftermarket new four pronged 50 amp plug, I
did some trouble shooting. There was indeed some high resistance between the hot wire and the ground which disappeared when I turned off the vacuum
cleaner breaker. Now I can plug into the GFCI without it tripping. Have not started trouble shooting the vacuum cleaner outlet or the vacuum cleaner
itself. With my luck, some mice probably took up residence in the vacuum cleaner electrical and chewed through the wires. Anyone else experience this
problem?
 
Many times it is the hot water heater that causes the GFI to trip. The fault is in the heating element, usually after the heater has gotten low on
water and the element was exposed. The element overheats quickly and burns out. This sometimes leaves a current path from the internal element
heater to the external metal housing.

Turning OFF the hot water heater does not fix the issue, because the current path is from Neutral to ground. The some return current can now flow
though the ground which upsets the balanced current flow in the hot and neutral... thus trips the GFI.

Tracing the abnormal resistance from ground to neutral and you end up at the water heater! even though you may have the water heater turned OFF...
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Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.1 ton front end
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My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
 
Bruce good explanation. Same N-G leakage could occur in vacuum motor if there is mouse pee etc between the neutral side motor brush and case ground.
Easy to test, just unplug vacuum under the frig.
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John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
 
At another GFCI shore power outlet, my GMC with the vac breaker turned off still tripped the GFCI. It tripped it in fact with all the breakers turned
off. It tripped it with the hot wires disconnected from the buss. It tripped when the ground was disconnected from the breaker box. I finally
decided that it was the original molded four prong plug that had shorted the ground to the neutral that was tripping the GFCI. I tried to tear it
apart to see where it had shorted, but found it was too much of a job. Placed a new four prong plug on the end of the old cable and I have no further
problems with the GFCI's tripping.