Serpentine Belt setup
- Thread starter jdlisenby
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Lee Harrison did oe, and it was not very successful as he put the tensioner
on the wrong side.
We have had few we removed off customers coach we dumped in recycle bins.
My feeling is that it would be better to keep the v belt as I have not seen
that much problems.
I believe Gary Kosier knows how to do one that works.
On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Jdlisenby <
> Has anyone converted their 455 to a serpentine belt drive? With all of the
> issues with V-belt fitment and tensioning I am considering the option.
> Thanks!
> --
> JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
> 1978 Royale-455
> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>
> Navarre, FL
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on the wrong side.
We have had few we removed off customers coach we dumped in recycle bins.
My feeling is that it would be better to keep the v belt as I have not seen
that much problems.
I believe Gary Kosier knows how to do one that works.
On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Jdlisenby <
> Has anyone converted their 455 to a serpentine belt drive? With all of the
> issues with V-belt fitment and tensioning I am considering the option.
> Thanks!
> --
> JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
> 1978 Royale-455
> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>
> Navarre, FL
>
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Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
jimk
http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
Yes, I built a "thrifty boy" serpentine for the Olds, using brackets off a
Chevy truck using a modern CS130D alternator and a Sanden
AC compressor. No on showed any interest, so I just left it lay.
Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jdlisenby"
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:20 PM
To:
Subject: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
> Has anyone converted their 455 to a serpentine belt drive? With all of the
> issues with V-belt fitment and tensioning I am considering the option.
> Thanks!
> --
> JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
> 1978 Royale-455
> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>
> Navarre, FL
>
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Chevy truck using a modern CS130D alternator and a Sanden
AC compressor. No on showed any interest, so I just left it lay.
Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jdlisenby"
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:20 PM
To:
Subject: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
> Has anyone converted their 455 to a serpentine belt drive? With all of the
> issues with V-belt fitment and tensioning I am considering the option.
> Thanks!
> --
> JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
> 1978 Royale-455
> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>
> Navarre, FL
>
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Gary,
What would the advantage be?
What does it cost?
How is it working for you?
> Yes, I built a "thrifty boy" serpentine for the Olds, using brackets off a
> Chevy truck using a modern CS130D alternator and a Sanden
> AC compressor. No on showed any interest, so I just left it lay.
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jdlisenby"
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:20 PM
> To:
> Subject: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>
>
> Has anyone converted their 455 to a serpentine belt drive? With all of the
>> issues with V-belt fitment and tensioning I am considering the option.
>> Thanks!
>> --
>> JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
>> 1978 Royale-455
>> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>>
>> Navarre, FL
>>
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What would the advantage be?
What does it cost?
How is it working for you?
> Yes, I built a "thrifty boy" serpentine for the Olds, using brackets off a
> Chevy truck using a modern CS130D alternator and a Sanden
> AC compressor. No on showed any interest, so I just left it lay.
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jdlisenby"
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:20 PM
> To:
> Subject: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>
>
> Has anyone converted their 455 to a serpentine belt drive? With all of the
>> issues with V-belt fitment and tensioning I am considering the option.
>> Thanks!
>> --
>> JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
>> 1978 Royale-455
>> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>>
>> Navarre, FL
>>
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Gary,
I know that many want to know what you did, how you did it and what parts did you use. I know that you have pictures out there and I will post the link in this Email. Everyone will need to read the explanations under the pictures.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6621-serpentine-belt-conversion.html
JR Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMC Eastern States Charter Member
GMCGL Tech Editor
GMCMI
78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
>
> Gary,
> What would the advantage be?
> What does it cost?
> How is it working for you?
>
>
>
>> Yes, I built a "thrifty boy" serpentine for the Olds, using brackets off a
>> Chevy truck using a modern CS130D alternator and a Sanden
>> AC compressor. No on showed any interest, so I just left it lay.
>>
>> Gary Kosier
>> 77PB w/500Cad
>> Newark, Ohio
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Jdlisenby"
>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:20 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>>
>>
>> Has anyone converted their 455 to a serpentine belt drive? With all of the
>>> issues with V-belt fitment and tensioning I am considering the option.
>>> Thanks!
>>> --
>>> JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
>>> 1978 Royale-455
>>> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>>>
>>> Navarre, FL
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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>>
>>
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>
>
>
> --
>
> *John Phillips*
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I know that many want to know what you did, how you did it and what parts did you use. I know that you have pictures out there and I will post the link in this Email. Everyone will need to read the explanations under the pictures.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6621-serpentine-belt-conversion.html
JR Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMC Eastern States Charter Member
GMCGL Tech Editor
GMCMI
78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
>
> Gary,
> What would the advantage be?
> What does it cost?
> How is it working for you?
>
>
>
>> Yes, I built a "thrifty boy" serpentine for the Olds, using brackets off a
>> Chevy truck using a modern CS130D alternator and a Sanden
>> AC compressor. No on showed any interest, so I just left it lay.
>>
>> Gary Kosier
>> 77PB w/500Cad
>> Newark, Ohio
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Jdlisenby"
>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:20 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>>
>>
>> Has anyone converted their 455 to a serpentine belt drive? With all of the
>>> issues with V-belt fitment and tensioning I am considering the option.
>>> Thanks!
>>> --
>>> JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
>>> 1978 Royale-455
>>> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>>>
>>> Navarre, FL
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
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>>
>>
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>
>
>
> --
>
> *John Phillips*
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Well, first would be that the serpentine is the modern design. The belt
manufacturers
have mostly converted to metric sizes. And they're not replacing an
equipment as the
V-belt is being phased out. Quality is in the toilet with some brands.
Second, using solid, cast aluminum brackets eliminates that cobbled up mess
of of
brackets, braces, spacers and various hootises that Olds used to attach the
accessories.
And, of course, using a modern alternator and AC compressor is an
advantage.
I forgot to mention that the serpentine belt is always correctly adjusted.
Costwise, It's hard to remember. I got the big brackets and alternator at
the junkyard.
The worst part was Chevy had a brain fart on their design. They put a
mounting bolt
behind the PS pump reservoir. You have to remove the pump to get to it. To
remove
The pump mounting bolts, you have to remove the pressed on pulley.(in the
yard)
I later found another pump with an offset reservoir that gives access to the
bolt.
And I put a hole in the pulley that gives access to the pump mounting bolts.
The Chevy brackets are made for the R4 round AC compressor, but the Sanden
will
fit the same holes. I made brackets to offset the Sanden upwards to clear
the valve cover.
I got the Olds reverse rotation water pump at the deep discount. All of the
head scratching
and measuring and labor were free, of course.
Oh, I forgot, walking out in the yard, I passed a Dodge truck with the nose
off. Realizing
that I needed a long belt for measuring I clipped it and removed it. The
crank pulley
looked handy, so I took it also. Lucky me, it turned out to have the
correct offset for
my needs after redrilling the bolt holes.
How's it working out for me? I took this on as a challenge to see if I
could make it work.
After I did, no one was interested and since I use a Cadillac, it's just
laying there.
Sorry about the long explanation, but that's the way I am.
Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio
--------------------------------------------------
From: "John Phillips"
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 11:38 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
> Gary,
> What would the advantage be?
> What does it cost?
> How is it working for you?
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 7:55 PM, Gary Kosier
>
>> Yes, I built a "thrifty boy" serpentine for the Olds, using brackets off
>> a
>> Chevy truck using a modern CS130D alternator and a Sanden
>> AC compressor. No on showed any interest, so I just left it lay.
>>
>> Gary Kosier
>> 77PB w/500Cad
>> Newark, Ohio
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Jdlisenby"
>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:20 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>>
>>
>> Has anyone converted their 455 to a serpentine belt drive? With all of
>> the
>>> issues with V-belt fitment and tensioning I am considering the option.
>>> Thanks!
>>> --
>>> JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
>>> 1978 Royale-455
>>> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>>>
>>> Navarre, FL
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>>
>>
>>
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>
>
>
> --
>
> *John Phillips*
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manufacturers
have mostly converted to metric sizes. And they're not replacing an
equipment as the
V-belt is being phased out. Quality is in the toilet with some brands.
Second, using solid, cast aluminum brackets eliminates that cobbled up mess
of of
brackets, braces, spacers and various hootises that Olds used to attach the
accessories.
And, of course, using a modern alternator and AC compressor is an
advantage.
I forgot to mention that the serpentine belt is always correctly adjusted.
Costwise, It's hard to remember. I got the big brackets and alternator at
the junkyard.
The worst part was Chevy had a brain fart on their design. They put a
mounting bolt
behind the PS pump reservoir. You have to remove the pump to get to it. To
remove
The pump mounting bolts, you have to remove the pressed on pulley.(in the
yard)
I later found another pump with an offset reservoir that gives access to the
bolt.
And I put a hole in the pulley that gives access to the pump mounting bolts.
The Chevy brackets are made for the R4 round AC compressor, but the Sanden
will
fit the same holes. I made brackets to offset the Sanden upwards to clear
the valve cover.
I got the Olds reverse rotation water pump at the deep discount. All of the
head scratching
and measuring and labor were free, of course.
Oh, I forgot, walking out in the yard, I passed a Dodge truck with the nose
off. Realizing
that I needed a long belt for measuring I clipped it and removed it. The
crank pulley
looked handy, so I took it also. Lucky me, it turned out to have the
correct offset for
my needs after redrilling the bolt holes.
How's it working out for me? I took this on as a challenge to see if I
could make it work.
After I did, no one was interested and since I use a Cadillac, it's just
laying there.
Sorry about the long explanation, but that's the way I am.
Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio
--------------------------------------------------
From: "John Phillips"
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 11:38 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
> Gary,
> What would the advantage be?
> What does it cost?
> How is it working for you?
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 7:55 PM, Gary Kosier
>
>> Yes, I built a "thrifty boy" serpentine for the Olds, using brackets off
>> a
>> Chevy truck using a modern CS130D alternator and a Sanden
>> AC compressor. No on showed any interest, so I just left it lay.
>>
>> Gary Kosier
>> 77PB w/500Cad
>> Newark, Ohio
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Jdlisenby"
>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:20 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>>
>>
>> Has anyone converted their 455 to a serpentine belt drive? With all of
>> the
>>> issues with V-belt fitment and tensioning I am considering the option.
>>> Thanks!
>>> --
>>> JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
>>> 1978 Royale-455
>>> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>>>
>>> Navarre, FL
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>>
>>
>>
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>
>
>
> --
>
> *John Phillips*
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John,
Kinda' embarrassing, but those pictures are of the Cadillac conversion.
I've got a write up and pictures somewhere, but since there was
ZERO interest in the project, I just tucked it away somewhere.
Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio
--------------------------------------------------
From: "John Wright"
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 9:40 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
> Gary,
> I know that many want to know what you did, how you did it and what parts
> did you use. I know that you have pictures out there and I will post the
> link in this Email. Everyone will need to read the explanations under the
> pictures.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6621-serpentine-belt-conversion.html
>
> JR Wright
> GMC Great Laker MHC
> GMC Eastern States Charter Member
> GMCGL Tech Editor
> GMCMI
> 78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
> 1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
> Michigan
>
>
>> On Aug 28, 2017, at 11:38 PM, John Phillips
>>
>> Gary,
>> What would the advantage be?
>> What does it cost?
>> How is it working for you?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 7:55 PM, Gary Kosier
>>
>>> Yes, I built a "thrifty boy" serpentine for the Olds, using brackets off
>>> a
>>> Chevy truck using a modern CS130D alternator and a Sanden
>>> AC compressor. No on showed any interest, so I just left it lay.
>>>
>>> Gary Kosier
>>> 77PB w/500Cad
>>> Newark, Ohio
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Jdlisenby"
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:20 PM
>>> To:
>>> Subject: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>>>
>>>
>>> Has anyone converted their 455 to a serpentine belt drive? With all of
>>> the
>>>> issues with V-belt fitment and tensioning I am considering the option.
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> --
>>>> JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
>>>> 1978 Royale-455
>>>> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>>>>
>>>> Navarre, FL
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *John Phillips*
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Kinda' embarrassing, but those pictures are of the Cadillac conversion.
I've got a write up and pictures somewhere, but since there was
ZERO interest in the project, I just tucked it away somewhere.
Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio
--------------------------------------------------
From: "John Wright"
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 9:40 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
> Gary,
> I know that many want to know what you did, how you did it and what parts
> did you use. I know that you have pictures out there and I will post the
> link in this Email. Everyone will need to read the explanations under the
> pictures.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6621-serpentine-belt-conversion.html
>
> JR Wright
> GMC Great Laker MHC
> GMC Eastern States Charter Member
> GMCGL Tech Editor
> GMCMI
> 78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
> 1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
> Michigan
>
>
>> On Aug 28, 2017, at 11:38 PM, John Phillips
>>
>> Gary,
>> What would the advantage be?
>> What does it cost?
>> How is it working for you?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 7:55 PM, Gary Kosier
>>
>>> Yes, I built a "thrifty boy" serpentine for the Olds, using brackets off
>>> a
>>> Chevy truck using a modern CS130D alternator and a Sanden
>>> AC compressor. No on showed any interest, so I just left it lay.
>>>
>>> Gary Kosier
>>> 77PB w/500Cad
>>> Newark, Ohio
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Jdlisenby"
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:20 PM
>>> To:
>>> Subject: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>>>
>>>
>>> Has anyone converted their 455 to a serpentine belt drive? With all of
>>> the
>>>> issues with V-belt fitment and tensioning I am considering the option.
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> --
>>>> JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
>>>> 1978 Royale-455
>>>> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>>>>
>>>> Navarre, FL
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *John Phillips*
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Gary,
I posted your pictures, see previous email.
John
>
> John,
>
> Kinda' embarrassing, but those pictures are of the Cadillac conversion. I've got a write up and pictures somewhere, but since there was
> ZERO interest in the project, I just tucked it away somewhere.
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "John Wright"
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 9:40 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>
>> Gary,
>> I know that many want to know what you did, how you did it and what parts did you use. I know that you have pictures out there and I will post the link in this Email. Everyone will need to read the explanations under the pictures.
>>
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6621-serpentine-belt-conversion.html
>>
>> JR Wright
>> GMC Great Laker MHC
>> GMC Eastern States Charter Member
>> GMCGL Tech Editor
>> GMCMI
>> 78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
>> 1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
>> Michigan
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Gary,
>>> What would the advantage be?
>>> What does it cost?
>>> How is it working for you?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes, I built a "thrifty boy" serpentine for the Olds, using brackets off a
>>>> Chevy truck using a modern CS130D alternator and a Sanden
>>>> AC compressor. No on showed any interest, so I just left it lay.
>>>>
>>>> Gary Kosier
>>>> 77PB w/500Cad
>>>> Newark, Ohio
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Jdlisenby"
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:20 PM
>>>> To:
>>>> Subject: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone converted their 455 to a serpentine belt drive? With all of the
>>>>> issues with V-belt fitment and tensioning I am considering the option.
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> --
>>>>> JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
>>>>> 1978 Royale-455
>>>>> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>>>>>
I posted your pictures, see previous email.
John
>
> John,
>
> Kinda' embarrassing, but those pictures are of the Cadillac conversion. I've got a write up and pictures somewhere, but since there was
> ZERO interest in the project, I just tucked it away somewhere.
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "John Wright"
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 9:40 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>
>> Gary,
>> I know that many want to know what you did, how you did it and what parts did you use. I know that you have pictures out there and I will post the link in this Email. Everyone will need to read the explanations under the pictures.
>>
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6621-serpentine-belt-conversion.html
>>
>> JR Wright
>> GMC Great Laker MHC
>> GMC Eastern States Charter Member
>> GMCGL Tech Editor
>> GMCMI
>> 78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
>> 1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
>> Michigan
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Gary,
>>> What would the advantage be?
>>> What does it cost?
>>> How is it working for you?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes, I built a "thrifty boy" serpentine for the Olds, using brackets off a
>>>> Chevy truck using a modern CS130D alternator and a Sanden
>>>> AC compressor. No on showed any interest, so I just left it lay.
>>>>
>>>> Gary Kosier
>>>> 77PB w/500Cad
>>>> Newark, Ohio
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Jdlisenby"
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:20 PM
>>>> To:
>>>> Subject: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone converted their 455 to a serpentine belt drive? With all of the
>>>>> issues with V-belt fitment and tensioning I am considering the option.
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> --
>>>>> JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
>>>>> 1978 Royale-455
>>>>> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>>>>>
John,
They are pictures of Gary's Caddy 500 not an Olds 455.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/serpentine-belt-conversion/p55008-ps-pump-installed.html
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of John Wright
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 4:25 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
Gary,
I posted your pictures, see previous email.
John
They are pictures of Gary's Caddy 500 not an Olds 455.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/serpentine-belt-conversion/p55008-ps-pump-installed.html
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of John Wright
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 4:25 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
Gary,
I posted your pictures, see previous email.
John
Rob,
I posted the album this morning.
John
>
> John,
>
> They are pictures of Gary's Caddy 500 not an Olds 455.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/serpentine-belt-conversion/p55008-ps-pump-installed.html
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of John Wright
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 4:25 AM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>
> Gary,
> I posted your pictures, see previous email.
>
> John
>
>
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I posted the album this morning.
John
>
> John,
>
> They are pictures of Gary's Caddy 500 not an Olds 455.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/serpentine-belt-conversion/p55008-ps-pump-installed.html
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of John Wright
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 4:25 AM
> To: gmclist
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>
> Gary,
> I posted your pictures, see previous email.
>
> John
>
>
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I was thinking of this http://marchperformance.com/oldsmobile/oldsmobile-455/all-inclusive-kits.html . Fully engineered, equipped with a modern A/C
compressor. It's spendy but I am going to be driving this coach at least 25 years (If I don't kick it first) and I really hate screwing with the
constant adjustment and PITA belt changes of the stock setup.
> Well, first would be that the serpentine is the modern design. The belt
> manufacturers
> have mostly converted to metric sizes. And they're not replacing an
> equipment as the
> V-belt is being phased out. Quality is in the toilet with some brands.
> Second, using solid, cast aluminum brackets eliminates that cobbled up mess
> of of
> brackets, braces, spacers and various hootises that Olds used to attach the
> accessories.
> And, of course, using a modern alternator and AC compressor is an
> advantage.
> I forgot to mention that the serpentine belt is always correctly adjusted.
> Costwise, It's hard to remember. I got the big brackets and alternator at
> the junkyard.
> The worst part was Chevy had a brain fart on their design. They put a
> mounting bolt
> behind the PS pump reservoir. You have to remove the pump to get to it. To
> remove
> The pump mounting bolts, you have to remove the pressed on pulley.(in the
> yard)
> I later found another pump with an offset reservoir that gives access to the
> bolt.
> And I put a hole in the pulley that gives access to the pump mounting bolts.
> The Chevy brackets are made for the R4 round AC compressor, but the Sanden
> will
> fit the same holes. I made brackets to offset the Sanden upwards to clear
> the valve cover.
> I got the Olds reverse rotation water pump at the deep discount. All of the
> head scratching
> and measuring and labor were free, of course.
> Oh, I forgot, walking out in the yard, I passed a Dodge truck with the nose
> off. Realizing
> that I needed a long belt for measuring I clipped it and removed it. The
> crank pulley
> looked handy, so I took it also. Lucky me, it turned out to have the
> correct offset for
> my needs after redrilling the bolt holes.
> How's it working out for me? I took this on as a challenge to see if I
> could make it work.
> After I did, no one was interested and since I use a Cadillac, it's just
> laying there.
> Sorry about the long explanation, but that's the way I am.
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "John Phillips"
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 11:38 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>
> > Gary,
> > What would the advantage be?
> > What does it cost?
> > How is it working for you?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 7:55 PM, Gary Kosier
> >
> >> Yes, I built a "thrifty boy" serpentine for the Olds, using brackets off
> >> a
> >> Chevy truck using a modern CS130D alternator and a Sanden
> >> AC compressor. No on showed any interest, so I just left it lay.
> >>
> >> Gary Kosier
> >> 77PB w/500Cad
> >> Newark, Ohio
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >> From: "Jdlisenby"
> >> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:20 PM
> >> To:
> >> Subject: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
> >>
> >>
> >> Has anyone converted their 455 to a serpentine belt drive? With all of
> >> the
> >>> issues with V-belt fitment and tensioning I am considering the option.
> >>> Thanks!
> >>> --
> >>> JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
> >>> 1978 Royale-455
> >>> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
> >>>
> >>> Navarre, FL
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> GMCnet mailing list
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> >>>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > *John Phillips*
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1978 Royale-455
Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
Navarre, FL
compressor. It's spendy but I am going to be driving this coach at least 25 years (If I don't kick it first) and I really hate screwing with the
constant adjustment and PITA belt changes of the stock setup.
> Well, first would be that the serpentine is the modern design. The belt
> manufacturers
> have mostly converted to metric sizes. And they're not replacing an
> equipment as the
> V-belt is being phased out. Quality is in the toilet with some brands.
> Second, using solid, cast aluminum brackets eliminates that cobbled up mess
> of of
> brackets, braces, spacers and various hootises that Olds used to attach the
> accessories.
> And, of course, using a modern alternator and AC compressor is an
> advantage.
> I forgot to mention that the serpentine belt is always correctly adjusted.
> Costwise, It's hard to remember. I got the big brackets and alternator at
> the junkyard.
> The worst part was Chevy had a brain fart on their design. They put a
> mounting bolt
> behind the PS pump reservoir. You have to remove the pump to get to it. To
> remove
> The pump mounting bolts, you have to remove the pressed on pulley.(in the
> yard)
> I later found another pump with an offset reservoir that gives access to the
> bolt.
> And I put a hole in the pulley that gives access to the pump mounting bolts.
> The Chevy brackets are made for the R4 round AC compressor, but the Sanden
> will
> fit the same holes. I made brackets to offset the Sanden upwards to clear
> the valve cover.
> I got the Olds reverse rotation water pump at the deep discount. All of the
> head scratching
> and measuring and labor were free, of course.
> Oh, I forgot, walking out in the yard, I passed a Dodge truck with the nose
> off. Realizing
> that I needed a long belt for measuring I clipped it and removed it. The
> crank pulley
> looked handy, so I took it also. Lucky me, it turned out to have the
> correct offset for
> my needs after redrilling the bolt holes.
> How's it working out for me? I took this on as a challenge to see if I
> could make it work.
> After I did, no one was interested and since I use a Cadillac, it's just
> laying there.
> Sorry about the long explanation, but that's the way I am.
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "John Phillips"
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 11:38 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>
> > Gary,
> > What would the advantage be?
> > What does it cost?
> > How is it working for you?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 7:55 PM, Gary Kosier
> >
> >> Yes, I built a "thrifty boy" serpentine for the Olds, using brackets off
> >> a
> >> Chevy truck using a modern CS130D alternator and a Sanden
> >> AC compressor. No on showed any interest, so I just left it lay.
> >>
> >> Gary Kosier
> >> 77PB w/500Cad
> >> Newark, Ohio
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >> From: "Jdlisenby"
> >> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 4:20 PM
> >> To:
> >> Subject: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
> >>
> >>
> >> Has anyone converted their 455 to a serpentine belt drive? With all of
> >> the
> >>> issues with V-belt fitment and tensioning I am considering the option.
> >>> Thanks!
> >>> --
> >>> JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
> >>> 1978 Royale-455
> >>> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
> >>>
> >>> Navarre, FL
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> GMCnet mailing list
> >>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> >>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > *John Phillips*
> > _______________________________________________
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--
JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
1978 Royale-455
Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
Navarre, FL
Gotta admit, this is pretty neat.
D C "Mac" Macdonald
Amateur Radio K2GKK
Since 30 November '53
USAF and FAA, Retired
Member GMCMI & Classics
Oklahoma City, OK
"The Money Pit"
TZE166V101966
'76 ex-Palm Beach
k2gkk + hotmail dot com
From: Gmclist on behalf of Jdlisenby@
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 16:14
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
I was thinking of this (http://marchperformance.com/oldsmobile/oldsmobile-455/all-inclusive-kits.html)
Fully engineered, equipped with a modern A/C compressor. It's spendy but I am going to be driving this coach at least 25 years (If I don't kick it first) and I really hate screwing with the constant adjustment and PITA belt changes of the stock setup.
--
JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
1978 Royale-455
Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
Navarre, FL
D C "Mac" Macdonald
Amateur Radio K2GKK
Since 30 November '53
USAF and FAA, Retired
Member GMCMI & Classics
Oklahoma City, OK
"The Money Pit"
TZE166V101966
'76 ex-Palm Beach
k2gkk + hotmail dot com
From: Gmclist on behalf of Jdlisenby@
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 16:14
To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
I was thinking of this (http://marchperformance.com/oldsmobile/oldsmobile-455/all-inclusive-kits.html)
Fully engineered, equipped with a modern A/C compressor. It's spendy but I am going to be driving this coach at least 25 years (If I don't kick it first) and I really hate screwing with the constant adjustment and PITA belt changes of the stock setup.
--
JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
1978 Royale-455
Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
Navarre, FL
At one time Jim Bounds said he was negotiating with March for a GMCMH
version without all the "bling". I've heard nothing more for many months;
you might check with him.
Beyond that, after having developed a very satisfactory, inexpensive, dual
serpentine system for my Cad500, I'm convinced that a similar system can be
fitted to the 455. I haven't seen Gary's setup so I can't comment on it.
If I still had a 455 on the floor, I'd be studying it, but I don't have.
My Cad took a couple of days of sitting & pondering, but eventually it all
worked out with only a little machining and welding. It doesn't require a
reverse flow water pump and includes a Sanden A/C compressor and CS-130D
alternator.
I should note that I ran a single serpentine belt (JR Slaten & Bobby Moore
design) for several years before installing the Cad 500, so I'm a firm
believer in them.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc., etc.
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Jdlisenby <
> I was thinking of this http://marchperformance.com/ol
> dsmobile/oldsmobile-455/all-inclusive-kits.html . Fully engineered,
> equipped with a modern A/C
> compressor. It's spendy but I am going to be driving this coach at least
> 25 years (If I don't kick it first) and I really hate screwing with the
> constant adjustment and PITA belt changes of the stock setup.
>
version without all the "bling". I've heard nothing more for many months;
you might check with him.
Beyond that, after having developed a very satisfactory, inexpensive, dual
serpentine system for my Cad500, I'm convinced that a similar system can be
fitted to the 455. I haven't seen Gary's setup so I can't comment on it.
If I still had a 455 on the floor, I'd be studying it, but I don't have.
My Cad took a couple of days of sitting & pondering, but eventually it all
worked out with only a little machining and welding. It doesn't require a
reverse flow water pump and includes a Sanden A/C compressor and CS-130D
alternator.
I should note that I ran a single serpentine belt (JR Slaten & Bobby Moore
design) for several years before installing the Cad 500, so I'm a firm
believer in them.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc., etc.
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Jdlisenby <
> I was thinking of this http://marchperformance.com/ol
> dsmobile/oldsmobile-455/all-inclusive-kits.html . Fully engineered,
> equipped with a modern A/C
> compressor. It's spendy but I am going to be driving this coach at least
> 25 years (If I don't kick it first) and I really hate screwing with the
> constant adjustment and PITA belt changes of the stock setup.
>
As luck would have it I will be picking up CoRVy on Friday and I will ask Jim about it. I would love a no-frills March setup.
> At one time Jim Bounds said he was negotiating with March for a GMCMH
> version without all the "bling". I've heard nothing more for many months;
> you might check with him.
>
> Beyond that, after having developed a very satisfactory, inexpensive, dual
> serpentine system for my Cad500, I'm convinced that a similar system can be
> fitted to the 455. I haven't seen Gary's setup so I can't comment on it.
> If I still had a 455 on the floor, I'd be studying it, but I don't have.
>
> My Cad took a couple of days of sitting & pondering, but eventually it all
> worked out with only a little machining and welding. It doesn't require a
> reverse flow water pump and includes a Sanden A/C compressor and CS-130D
> alternator.
>
> I should note that I ran a single serpentine belt (JR Slaten & Bobby Moore
> design) for several years before installing the Cad 500, so I'm a firm
> believer in them.
>
> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
> Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc., etc.
> www.gmcwipersetc.com
>
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Jdlisenby <
>
> > I was thinking of this http://marchperformance.com/ol
> > dsmobile/oldsmobile-455/all-inclusive-kits.html . Fully engineered,
> > equipped with a modern A/C
> > compressor. It's spendy but I am going to be driving this coach at least
> > 25 years (If I don't kick it first) and I really hate screwing with the
> > constant adjustment and PITA belt changes of the stock setup.
> >
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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--
JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
1978 Royale-455
Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
Navarre, FL
> At one time Jim Bounds said he was negotiating with March for a GMCMH
> version without all the "bling". I've heard nothing more for many months;
> you might check with him.
>
> Beyond that, after having developed a very satisfactory, inexpensive, dual
> serpentine system for my Cad500, I'm convinced that a similar system can be
> fitted to the 455. I haven't seen Gary's setup so I can't comment on it.
> If I still had a 455 on the floor, I'd be studying it, but I don't have.
>
> My Cad took a couple of days of sitting & pondering, but eventually it all
> worked out with only a little machining and welding. It doesn't require a
> reverse flow water pump and includes a Sanden A/C compressor and CS-130D
> alternator.
>
> I should note that I ran a single serpentine belt (JR Slaten & Bobby Moore
> design) for several years before installing the Cad 500, so I'm a firm
> believer in them.
>
> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
> Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc., etc.
> www.gmcwipersetc.com
>
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Jdlisenby <
>
> > I was thinking of this http://marchperformance.com/ol
> > dsmobile/oldsmobile-455/all-inclusive-kits.html . Fully engineered,
> > equipped with a modern A/C
> > compressor. It's spendy but I am going to be driving this coach at least
> > 25 years (If I don't kick it first) and I really hate screwing with the
> > constant adjustment and PITA belt changes of the stock setup.
> >
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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--
JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
1978 Royale-455
Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
Navarre, FL
Before you get real excited about that March serpentine, think about trying
to hit the crank pulley with a timing light.
It's difficult enough with a stocker, but impossible with that concoction.
Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jdlisenby"
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 8:41 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
> As luck would have it I will be picking up CoRVy on Friday and I will ask
> Jim about it. I would love a no-frills March setup.
to hit the crank pulley with a timing light.
It's difficult enough with a stocker, but impossible with that concoction.
Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jdlisenby"
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 8:41 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
> As luck would have it I will be picking up CoRVy on Friday and I will ask
> Jim about it. I would love a no-frills March setup.
The coach has crank triggered ignition and the timing is set on the laptop. I would like a more OEM pulley style setup as appearance is not important
and it would be a heck of a lot cheaper, that's why I asked if anyone had tried it. I figured with all the issues V-belts cause, someone else might
have already solved the issue (don't reinvent the wheel etc etc). I figured this would make a good winter project.
> Before you get real excited about that March serpentine, think about trying
> to hit the crank pulley with a timing light.
> It's difficult enough with a stocker, but impossible with that concoction.
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jdlisenby"
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 8:41 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>
> > As luck would have it I will be picking up CoRVy on Friday and I will ask
> > Jim about it. I would love a no-frills March setup.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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--
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1978 Royale-455
Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
Navarre, FL
and it would be a heck of a lot cheaper, that's why I asked if anyone had tried it. I figured with all the issues V-belts cause, someone else might
have already solved the issue (don't reinvent the wheel etc etc). I figured this would make a good winter project.
> Before you get real excited about that March serpentine, think about trying
> to hit the crank pulley with a timing light.
> It's difficult enough with a stocker, but impossible with that concoction.
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jdlisenby"
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 8:41 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>
> > As luck would have it I will be picking up CoRVy on Friday and I will ask
> > Jim about it. I would love a no-frills March setup.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
1978 Royale-455
Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
Navarre, FL
I've decided to add "hootis" to my vocabulary. So much more elegant than
putter-onner. And it captures the sheer insanity of all the random bits of
mutually interlocking puzzle pieces that attach the power steering bracket.
I never considered a serpentine setup, because each of the 4,576 times I've
had to mess with the belts on my coach, I was convinced it was the last.
Rick "still convinced" Denney
> ...hootises...
--
Rick Denney
73 x-Glacier 230 "Jaws"
Off-list email to rick at rickdenney dot com
putter-onner. And it captures the sheer insanity of all the random bits of
mutually interlocking puzzle pieces that attach the power steering bracket.
I never considered a serpentine setup, because each of the 4,576 times I've
had to mess with the belts on my coach, I was convinced it was the last.
Rick "still convinced" Denney
> ...hootises...
--
Rick Denney
73 x-Glacier 230 "Jaws"
Off-list email to rick at rickdenney dot com
Please tell me more about the crank triggered ignition. I'm working on
designing a crank triggered ignition for both the Cadillac and Olds.
It's slow going, because my body can't get the things done that my mind can
promote. LOL
Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jdlisenby"
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 10:07 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
> The coach has crank triggered ignition and the timing is set on the
> laptop. I would like a more OEM pulley style setup as appearance is not
> important
> and it would be a heck of a lot cheaper, that's why I asked if anyone had
> tried it. I figured with all the issues V-belts cause, someone else might
> have already solved the issue (don't reinvent the wheel etc etc). I
> figured this would make a good winter project.
>
>> Before you get real excited about that March serpentine, think about
>> trying
>> to hit the crank pulley with a timing light.
>> It's difficult enough with a stocker, but impossible with that
>> concoction.
>>
>> Gary Kosier
>> 77PB w/500Cad
>> Newark, Ohio
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Jdlisenby"
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 8:41 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>>
>> > As luck would have it I will be picking up CoRVy on Friday and I will
>> > ask
>> > Jim about it. I would love a no-frills March setup.
>>
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> 1978 Royale-455
> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>
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designing a crank triggered ignition for both the Cadillac and Olds.
It's slow going, because my body can't get the things done that my mind can
promote. LOL
Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio
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From: "Jdlisenby"
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 10:07 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
> The coach has crank triggered ignition and the timing is set on the
> laptop. I would like a more OEM pulley style setup as appearance is not
> important
> and it would be a heck of a lot cheaper, that's why I asked if anyone had
> tried it. I figured with all the issues V-belts cause, someone else might
> have already solved the issue (don't reinvent the wheel etc etc). I
> figured this would make a good winter project.
>
>> Before you get real excited about that March serpentine, think about
>> trying
>> to hit the crank pulley with a timing light.
>> It's difficult enough with a stocker, but impossible with that
>> concoction.
>>
>> Gary Kosier
>> 77PB w/500Cad
>> Newark, Ohio
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Jdlisenby"
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 8:41 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>>
>> > As luck would have it I will be picking up CoRVy on Friday and I will
>> > ask
>> > Jim about it. I would love a no-frills March setup.
>>
>>
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> 1978 Royale-455
> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>
> Navarre, FL
>
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Gary, if you think it is bad today, just wait a few years. (Grin)
Jim Hupy presently in Vienna, Austria with 50 or so of our GMC Friends. On
a river cruise.
> Please tell me more about the crank triggered ignition. I'm working on
> designing a crank triggered ignition for both the Cadillac and Olds.
> It's slow going, because my body can't get the things done that my mind
> can promote. LOL
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jdlisenby"
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 10:07 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>
> The coach has crank triggered ignition and the timing is set on the
>> laptop. I would like a more OEM pulley style setup as appearance is not
>> important
>> and it would be a heck of a lot cheaper, that's why I asked if anyone had
>> tried it. I figured with all the issues V-belts cause, someone else might
>> have already solved the issue (don't reinvent the wheel etc etc). I
>> figured this would make a good winter project.
>>
>>
>>> Before you get real excited about that March serpentine, think about
>>> trying
>>> to hit the crank pulley with a timing light.
>>> It's difficult enough with a stocker, but impossible with that
>>> concoction.
>>>
>>> Gary Kosier
>>> 77PB w/500Cad
>>> Newark, Ohio
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Jdlisenby"
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 8:41 PM
>>> To:
>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>>>
>>> > As luck would have it I will be picking up CoRVy on Friday and I will
>>> > ask
>>> > Jim about it. I would love a no-frills March setup.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>> --
>> JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
>> 1978 Royale-455
>> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>>
>> Navarre, FL
>>
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Jim Hupy presently in Vienna, Austria with 50 or so of our GMC Friends. On
a river cruise.
> Please tell me more about the crank triggered ignition. I'm working on
> designing a crank triggered ignition for both the Cadillac and Olds.
> It's slow going, because my body can't get the things done that my mind
> can promote. LOL
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jdlisenby"
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 10:07 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>
> The coach has crank triggered ignition and the timing is set on the
>> laptop. I would like a more OEM pulley style setup as appearance is not
>> important
>> and it would be a heck of a lot cheaper, that's why I asked if anyone had
>> tried it. I figured with all the issues V-belts cause, someone else might
>> have already solved the issue (don't reinvent the wheel etc etc). I
>> figured this would make a good winter project.
>>
>>
>>> Before you get real excited about that March serpentine, think about
>>> trying
>>> to hit the crank pulley with a timing light.
>>> It's difficult enough with a stocker, but impossible with that
>>> concoction.
>>>
>>> Gary Kosier
>>> 77PB w/500Cad
>>> Newark, Ohio
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Jdlisenby"
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 8:41 PM
>>> To:
>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Serpentine Belt setup
>>>
>>> > As luck would have it I will be picking up CoRVy on Friday and I will
>>> > ask
>>> > Jim about it. I would love a no-frills March setup.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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>>
>>
>> --
>> JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
>> 1978 Royale-455
>> Electromotive Tec2 FI & ignition
>>
>> Navarre, FL
>>
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I would love a serpentine conversion.
I'm a pro at changing belts at this point, but I'd prefer to never do it again.
--
Justin Brady
http://www.thegmcrv.com/
1976 Palm Beach 455
I'm a pro at changing belts at this point, but I'd prefer to never do it again.
--
Justin Brady
http://www.thegmcrv.com/
1976 Palm Beach 455
