RPM/Speed

chuck will

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Greetings, not being a specialist on any of this I will try to "PARROT"
what I have heard and why I had some of the stuff done to my engine. If
you mechanic can stop laughing long enough to talk to Joe he might clear
things up.
I agree that rpm is a problem. That was why Chuck Caspro did his change
on the transmission gears as well as the final drive. The way I
understand it is that the engine was working to hard to carry the load
of the GMC as it was, there fore the changes were required.

Now as far as the oil restrictors go with the added high flow pump to
ensure proper lubrication I haven't a clue as to why I lost two rebuillt
engines both having the bearings fail in Utah. I would certainly
appreciate any help I could get here especially from the Washington
State folks because that is where the Motor Works is located and they
are the ones who made the two fantastically poor engines for my GMC to
start with. Now the original engine when torn down showed that the
little ring created by the pistons probably broke loose causing initial
damage and that may of caused the bearing failure too! I was told by
several mechanics that when you drive an engine for 80 or 90 thousand
miles at basically the speeds and then start to go faster later on the
engines life that this possibility is more likely to occur than not. I
was operating an engine with 90 + thousand mile on it when it failed I
had been driving at about 70 mph for maybe two hours when I went to stop
and go out of Salt Lake City when the engine failed. The new
remanufactured engine from the Motorworks out of Spokane had only three
hundred miles when it failed. The next one got 700 mile on it neither
of these engines were running at over 55 mph. My rpm was probably at
3000 and then no more than 2000 on the last two engines. This would
probably equate to the Caspro Transmission gears and final drive. I
really wish I was a mechanic and new allot more than what I do. But
this is all I can provide to you readers and some experts out there in
GMC land.

I will be suing two companies soon. They are responsible for the
engines as they installed them, at least this is what I have been told
by my lawyers. The last engine I even had to have the intake manifold
replaced because one of the companies mechanics broke it and it was not
torque properly when I got it to California. Plus the smog valves were
missing and that cost me additional money.

It is nice to know that there are people that can laugh at other peoples
problems. I wish I could laugh at tossing 8 grand down the toilet with
doing business with incompetent MECHANICS. How do you know if you get a
MECHANIC that is educated. The one at the two places that did my work
had certificates all over their walls. Yet, the engines failed. I
hardly believe it was my fault unless I am one unlucky dude driving a
GMC that I probably should never have bought in the first place.
Between breakdowns and a irate wife that will hardly never get in it to
go anywhere I have a lot of complaining to do. Not to mention all the
money I have spent trying to maintain what I think to be a good
product. I certainly never abused any of the machinery I have owned or
operated, and $$$$ for $$$$$ I have never had so much bad luck with any
other thing I drive. The GMC is the winner hands down. Or is it stuck
up Mechanics with the will to rob you on the highway.

When I rode Harleys with my partners out of San Berdo I learned one
thing, to ride one you better know how to fix one. That may become
true of the GMC. The old man I bought this thing from back in 89
assured me that it would or should give me no trouble for a while. What
was a while! I have no idea. I will tell you I have had some really
good times but very costly ones at that same time. Being fully retired
now I am not sure I can afford continuing the operation of any motor
home. I know a lot about the GMC now after 11 years but I have paid a
great deal for this education. When anything came along to improve it,
it seems I got one or two.

My last engine is supposed to be the best money can get. Time will
tell. I read with great interest about temperatures, oil pressures and
everything from spark plug gaps to which ones to use and which ones to
not use. Leaking carburetors, how to fix them, why and so on and so
forth. And then I hear about a MECHANIC that can't stop laughing
because another professional mechanic recommends the restictors. Well I
paid for them and I hope they work., The last engines did not have them
and they failed me on the highway. By the way it gets D----- costly
when you are out on the highway. Thats quite possibly why they make
Airplanes. Reminds me of a joke. The train engineer had some terrible
problems in the mountains, his brand new diesel engine quit. He told
his conductor to go tell the passengers about the trouble. The engineer
said he had some good news and some bad news. First the bad news was
the engine was broke and they were going to be late. The good news was
they did not elect to fly. Oh well I have said enough I guess when you
break down you better have $$$$ or credit cards.

I have had others tell me that if that was there GMC they would have
walked away from it a long time ago. Or, from setting it on fire or
leaving the keys in it hoping that somebody would steal it.

I must admit, no matter what we do, getting there is an adventure in it
self. I hope I have not bored you to tears. I really hate people that
laugh at other peoples problems, it would be nice for them to add in and
cheer the poor fool on that has so many problems and so little education
to know when to quit. Chuck
 
chuck it is a poor man indeed that will laugh at another mans woes. I doubt
if anyone on this net did so knowingly.

No doubt about it if you have a Mondello engine, you have the best that
money can buy and one that should last for a very very long time. In my book
he is king of the mountain when it comes to the olds 455 engine. If this one
blows up I would suspect that your wife is sneaking out at night and putting
something in your engine oil (LOL).

I am sure that you have been around long enough to realize that everyone has
an opinion on different aspects of the GMC. Whether they really know or not
is a different story altogether.

I am convinced of one thing. If the GMC motorhome is properly maintained
with quality parts it is a very reliable machine.

As for you revelation of once riding a harley for sport, I used to jokingly
ask every harley rider I met, if he had ordered the optional plow with it,
and the net to scoop up the parts that vibrated off it when going down the
road. Even so I loved the sound of them.

Enjoy your GMC it has to get better.

>
>
>Greetings, not being a specialist on any of this I will try to "PARROT"
>what I have heard and why I had some of the stuff done to my engine. If
>you mechanic can stop laughing long enough to talk to Joe he might clear
>things up.
>I agree that rpm is a problem. That was why Chuck Caspro did his change
>on the transmission gears as well as the final drive. The way I
>understand it is that the engine was working to hard to carry the load
>of the GMC as it was, there fore the changes were required.
>
>Now as far as the oil restrictors go with the added high flow pump to
>ensure proper lubrication I haven't a clue as to why I lost two rebuillt
>engines both having the bearings fail in Utah. I would certainly
>appreciate any help I could get here especially from the Washington
>State folks because that is where the Motor Works is located and they
>are the ones who made the two fantastically poor engines for my GMC to
>start with. Now the original engine when torn down showed that the
>little ring created by the pistons probably broke loose causing initial
>damage and that may of caused the bearing failure too! I was told by
>several mechanics that when you drive an engine for 80 or 90 thousand
>miles at basically the speeds and then start to go faster later on the
>engines life that this possibility is more likely to occur than not. I
>was operating an engine with 90 + thousand mile on it when it failed I
>had been driving at about 70 mph for maybe two hours when I went to stop
>and go out of Salt Lake City when the engine failed. The new
>remanufactured engine from the Motorworks out of Spokane had only three
>hundred miles when it failed. The next one got 700 mile on it neither
>of these engines were running at over 55 mph. My rpm was probably at
>3000 and then no more than 2000 on the last two engines. This would
>probably equate to the Caspro Transmission gears and final drive. I
>really wish I was a mechanic and new allot more than what I do. But
>this is all I can provide to you readers and some experts out there in
>GMC land.
>
>I will be suing two companies soon. They are responsible for the
>engines as they installed them, at least this is what I have been told
>by my lawyers. The last engine I even had to have the intake manifold
>replaced because one of the companies mechanics broke it and it was not
>torque properly when I got it to California. Plus the smog valves were
>missing and that cost me additional money.
>
>It is nice to know that there are people that can laugh at other peoples
>problems. I wish I could laugh at tossing 8 grand down the toilet with
>doing business with incompetent MECHANICS. How do you know if you get a
>MECHANIC that is educated. The one at the two places that did my work
>had certificates all over their walls. Yet, the engines failed. I
>hardly believe it was my fault unless I am one unlucky dude driving a
>GMC that I probably should never have bought in the first place.
>Between breakdowns and a irate wife that will hardly never get in it to
>go anywhere I have a lot of complaining to do. Not to mention all the
>money I have spent trying to maintain what I think to be a good
>product. I certainly never abused any of the machinery I have owned or
>operated, and $$$$ for $$$$$ I have never had so much bad luck with any
>other thing I drive. The GMC is the winner hands down. Or is it stuck
>up Mechanics with the will to rob you on the highway.
>
>When I rode Harleys with my partners out of San Berdo I learned one
>thing, to ride one you better know how to fix one. That may become
>true of the GMC. The old man I bought this thing from back in 89
>assured me that it would or should give me no trouble for a while. What
>was a while! I have no idea. I will tell you I have had some really
>good times but very costly ones at that same time. Being fully retired
>now I am not sure I can afford continuing the operation of any motor
>home. I know a lot about the GMC now after 11 years but I have paid a
>great deal for this education. When anything came along to improve it,
>it seems I got one or two.
>
>My last engine is supposed to be the best money can get. Time will
>tell. I read with great interest about temperatures, oil pressures and
>everything from spark plug gaps to which ones to use and which ones to
>not use. Leaking carburetors, how to fix them, why and so on and so
>forth. And then I hear about a MECHANIC that can't stop laughing
>because another professional mechanic recommends the restictors. Well I
>paid for them and I hope they work., The last engines did not have them
>and they failed me on the highway. By the way it gets D----- costly
>when you are out on the highway. Thats quite possibly why they make
>Airplanes. Reminds me of a joke. The train engineer had some terrible
>problems in the mountains, his brand new diesel engine quit. He told
>his conductor to go tell the passengers about the trouble. The engineer
>said he had some good news and some bad news. First the bad news was
>the engine was broke and they were going to be late. The good news was
>they did not elect to fly. Oh well I have said enough I guess when you
>break down you better have $$$$ or credit cards.
>
>I have had others tell me that if that was there GMC they would have
>walked away from it a long time ago. Or, from setting it on fire or
>leaving the keys in it hoping that somebody would steal it.
>
>I must admit, no matter what we do, getting there is an adventure in it
>self. I hope I have not bored you to tears. I really hate people that
>laugh at other peoples problems, it would be nice for them to add in and
>cheer the poor fool on that has so many problems and so little education
>to know when to quit. Chuck
>
>
>
>
 
Chuck

I can sympathize with you fully. I've had so many failures that brought me
to a stop that I've lost count. Luckily most of mine haven't been high
dollar items. Burned up Wallace bearings that cost me bearings hubs and
knuckles at a cost of over 2k was the most expensive so far. I've made two
trips out west both of which came home in 100 degree temps with dead
generator and no AC whatsoever. Engine and xmission haven't had any
expensive problems so I've still got that to look forward to.

Like you I've got an irate wife who doesn't want to go anywhere in it.
We're going west either next week or week after without the GMC. She
doesn't want to ride in a GMC anywhere near any mountains. I keep saying
that everything that can fail already has then something else goes wrong.
She keeps telling me she's going to donate it to charity some day while I'm
at work. Whenever I see a Bluebird on the road I always point out how nice
they are but that don't work either. Wouldn't be much point in having it if
there wasn't anything left for using it.

Talk about wierd problems. Last year the gasket under the EGR valve rusted
out. The blow by from that burned the gasket under the carburetor and I had
to replace that. Then I actually broke the starter off the Onan. Until I
owned a GMC I didn't even know these kinds of things were possible.

Before the GMC I owned two class C's with small block chevys. One of them
was sold to a close friend who still drives it on a regular basis. A bad
starter is the most serious problem it's had. The other one had a starter
solenoid problem and some problems with corroded connectors while I had it.
I got an email from the guy in Dallas a couple of months ago telling me how
he had repainted it and was so happy with it. These guys know how to rub it
in.

Now whenever I read the posts about these guys that take long trips without
any breakdowns I wonder if they're really telling the truth. Are these the
same guys that always catch the biggest fish? Last fall when I was topping
up the tanks before winter there was an RV in the next stall that was twice
the size of the GMC. I got to talking to the guy and eventually got around
to asking him what kind of mileage he got with that huge machine. He told
me between 14 and 15 and I believe he actually believed it.

Meanwhile just keep a list of everything going wrong and you'll eventually
run out of new things to add.

Enjoy

Dick

>
>
>Greetings, not being a specialist on any of this I will try to "PARROT"
>what I have heard and why I had some of the stuff done to my engine. If
>you mechanic can stop laughing long enough to talk to Joe he might clear
>things up.
>I agree that rpm is a problem. That was why Chuck Caspro did his change
>on the transmission gears as well as the final drive. The way I
>understand it is that the engine was working to hard to carry the load
>of the GMC as it was, there fore the changes were required.
>
>Now as far as the oil restrictors go with the added high flow pump to
>ensure proper lubrication I haven't a clue as to why I lost two rebuillt
>engines both having the bearings fail in Utah. I would certainly
>appreciate any help I could get here especially from the Washington
>State folks because that is where the Motor Works is located and they
>are the ones who made the two fantastically poor engines for my GMC to
>start with. Now the original engine when torn down showed that the
>little ring created by the pistons probably broke loose causing initial
>damage and that may of caused the bearing failure too! I was told by
>several mechanics that when you drive an engine for 80 or 90 thousand
>miles at basically the speeds and then start to go faster later on the
>engines life that this possibility is more likely to occur than not. I
>was operating an engine with 90 + thousand mile on it when it failed I
>had been driving at about 70 mph for maybe two hours when I went to stop
>and go out of Salt Lake City when the engine failed. The new
>remanufactured engine from the Motorworks out of Spokane had only three
>hundred miles when it failed. The next one got 700 mile on it neither
>of these engines were running at over 55 mph. My rpm was probably at
>3000 and then no more than 2000 on the last two engines. This would
>probably equate to the Caspro Transmission gears and final drive. I
>really wish I was a mechanic and new allot more than what I do. But
>this is all I can provide to you readers and some experts out there in
>GMC land.
>
>I will be suing two companies soon. They are responsible for the
>engines as they installed them, at least this is what I have been told
>by my lawyers. The last engine I even had to have the intake manifold
>replaced because one of the companies mechanics broke it and it was not
>torque properly when I got it to California. Plus the smog valves were
>missing and that cost me additional money.
>
>It is nice to know that there are people that can laugh at other peoples
>problems. I wish I could laugh at tossing 8 grand down the toilet with
>doing business with incompetent MECHANICS. How do you know if you get a
>MECHANIC that is educated. The one at the two places that did my work
>had certificates all over their walls. Yet, the engines failed. I
>hardly believe it was my fault unless I am one unlucky dude driving a
>GMC that I probably should never have bought in the first place.
>Between breakdowns and a irate wife that will hardly never get in it to
>go anywhere I have a lot of complaining to do. Not to mention all the
>money I have spent trying to maintain what I think to be a good
>product. I certainly never abused any of the machinery I have owned or
>operated, and $$$$ for $$$$$ I have never had so much bad luck with any
>other thing I drive. The GMC is the winner hands down. Or is it stuck
>up Mechanics with the will to rob you on the highway.
>
>When I rode Harleys with my partners out of San Berdo I learned one
>thing, to ride one you better know how to fix one. That may become
>true of the GMC. The old man I bought this thing from back in 89
>assured me that it would or should give me no trouble for a while. What
>was a while! I have no idea. I will tell you I have had some really
>good times but very costly ones at that same time. Being fully retired
>now I am not sure I can afford continuing the operation of any motor
>home. I know a lot about the GMC now after 11 years but I have paid a
>great deal for this education. When anything came along to improve it,
>it seems I got one or two.
>
>My last engine is supposed to be the best money can get. Time will
>tell. I read with great interest about temperatures, oil pressures and
>everything from spark plug gaps to which ones to use and which ones to
>not use. Leaking carburetors, how to fix them, why and so on and so
>forth. And then I hear about a MECHANIC that can't stop laughing
>because another professional mechanic recommends the restictors. Well I
>paid for them and I hope they work., The last engines did not have them
>and they failed me on the highway. By the way it gets D----- costly
>when you are out on the highway. Thats quite possibly why they make
>Airplanes. Reminds me of a joke. The train engineer had some terrible
>problems in the mountains, his brand new diesel engine quit. He told
>his conductor to go tell the passengers about the trouble. The engineer
>said he had some good news and some bad news. First the bad news was
>the engine was broke and they were going to be late. The good news was
>they did not elect to fly. Oh well I have said enough I guess when you
>break down you better have $$$$ or credit cards.
>
>I have had others tell me that if that was there GMC they would have
>walked away from it a long time ago. Or, from setting it on fire or
>leaving the keys in it hoping that somebody would steal it.
>
>I must admit, no matter what we do, getting there is an adventure in it
>self. I hope I have not bored you to tears. I really hate people that
>laugh at other peoples problems, it would be nice for them to add in and
>cheer the poor fool on that has so many problems and so little education
>to know when to quit. Chuck
>
>
>
 
>

Chuck will wrote: ...>

> I have had others tell me that if that was there GMC they would have
> walked away from it a long time ago. Or, from setting it on fire or
> leaving the keys in it hoping that somebody would steal it.
>
> I must admit, no matter what we do, getting there is an adventure in it
> self. I hope I have not bored you to tears. I really hate people that
> laugh at other peoples problems, it would be nice for them to add in and
> cheer the poor fool on that has so many problems and so little education
> to know when to quit. Chuck

Didn't see this one when it came in. Just read it now. I feel bad for you
Chuck, that is more bad luck than 1 guy needs in a lifetime. I sure hope
things work out on this go-round.

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