ride height

Vince,

Glad to hear that.

Whenever someone sends something into the GMC net using the terms left side
or right side I always wonder if it is facing the GMC or sitting in the
drivers seat. The latter is correct just as left and right on an aircraft is
as the pilot sits in his seat.

I do my best to use drivers side and passenger side as that is 100% clear.

BTW I am a USAussie, born in Hoboken, NJ. I married an Aussie Shelia and
when it came time to retire she wanted to go home and I do as I'm told.

I notice that you didn't used the word "Correct" in reference to the side of
the road that is driven on in the USA. I say we're the ones that drive on
the ones that drive on the RIGHT side of the street! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


-----Original Message-----
From: Vince Coley

Non taken Ozzie, HaHa yes drivers side is left Pass Side Right for those of
us that drive on the Correct side of the street. :)
 
Rob M and others, I'm a Technical Inspector for Amateur Auto Road Racing. We tell the drivers to put the Inspection sticker on the Right Side of the windshield. Surprising how many end up on the left side. We don't say "passenger side" as we have some right hand drive British and Japanese cars. Supossedly convention in the auto trade is ALWAYS from the drivers' seat perspective. Now I learn from Rob M this is also convention in aircraft, and should be for EVERYTHING !!!

DAVE KING
 
Dave,

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying below, sorry.

Maybe I'm dense but it isn't clear to me which side of the vehicle you want
the inspection sticker on either.

Since some drivers get it wrong too they have the same problem, obviously.

If you want the inspection sticker on the outside of the windshield on the
Right Side and following the convention you've noted below these
instructions would be crystal clear.

"Put the Inspection Sticker on outside of the windshield on the Left Side of
as you stand in front of your vehicle."

If you want the Inspection Sticker on the inside:

"Put the Inspection Sticker on the inside of the windshield on the Right
Side as you sit in your vehicle."

If they can't get these instructions correct should they be allowed to drive
a vehicle at high speed around a race track? ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


-----Original Message-----
From: Dave King

Rob M and others, I'm a Technical Inspector for Amateur Auto Road Racing. We
tell the drivers to put the Inspection sticker on the Right Side of the
windshield. Surprising how many end up on the left side. We don't say
"passenger side" as we have some right hand drive British and Japanese cars.
Supossedly convention in the auto trade is ALWAYS from the drivers' seat
perspective. Now I learn from Rob M this is also convention in aircraft, and
should be for EVERYTHING !!!

DAVE KING
 
Copnvention in fixed wing.  Helicopters fly from the right.
 
--johnny

From: Dave King
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ride Height
To: gmclist
Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 12:50 AM

Rob M and others, I'm a Technical Inspector for Amateur Auto Road Racing. We tell the drivers to put the Inspection sticker on the Right Side of the windshield. Surprising how many end up on the left side. We don't say "passenger side" as we have some right hand drive British and Japanese cars. Supossedly convention in the auto trade is ALWAYS from the drivers' seat perspective. Now I learn from Rob M this is also convention in aircraft, and should be for EVERYTHING !!!

DAVE KING
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You ever do Tech at Road Atlanta?
 
--johnny

From: Dave King
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ride Height
To: gmclist
Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 12:50 AM

Rob M and others, I'm a Technical Inspector for Amateur Auto Road Racing. We tell the drivers to put the Inspection sticker on the Right Side of the windshield. Surprising how many end up on the left side. We don't say "passenger side" as we have some right hand drive British and Japanese cars. Supossedly convention in the auto trade is ALWAYS from the drivers' seat perspective. Now I learn from Rob M this is also convention in aircraft, and should be for EVERYTHING !!!

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Johnny,

Thanks, never knew that as I never worked on helicopters. I did a Google
search to find out why and it's interesting.

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


-----Original Message-----
From: Johnny Bridges

Copnvention in fixed wing.  Helicopters fly from the right.
 
--johnny
 
And it begs the question - as I understand it, some of the European copters turn the rotor the opposite direction from Bell, Kaman, Sikorsky, et al.  If this is true, do you drive them from the left?
 
--johnny

From: Rob Mueller
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ride Height
To: gmclist
Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 2:31 PM

Johnny,

Thanks, never knew that as I never worked on helicopters. I did a Google
search to find out why and it's interesting.

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426

-----Original Message-----
From: Johnny Bridges

Copnvention in fixed wing.  Helicopters fly from the right.
 
--johnny

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Vince,

Nope, I tried to do that and it was set to high! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


-----Original Message-----
From: vince Coley

maybe I can adjust my ride height with a helicopter
 
I tried my best to get a rise out of Rob but was not successful.
--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
Ken,

I missed it!

Here's a "rise" for you!

http://tinyurl.com/3fkw73l

http://users.telenet.be/worldstandards/driving%20on%20the%20left.htm
es

I particularly like this statement from the UK Ministry of Transport:

"Visitors are informed that in the United Kingdom traffic drives on the
left-hand side of the road. In the interests of safety, you are advised to
practise this in your country of origin for a week or two before driving in
the UK."

IF this is true it is a GREAT example of British humor!

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Burton

I tried my best to get a rise out of Rob but was not successful.
--
Ken Burton
 
I have a 77 Royale with electro level suspension(one compressor mounted behind drivers side wheel well rear. I believe this is the electro level one?)My controller operates the pump on manual raise and lower and will level the coach when left on auto. The problem is while it appears to level side to side in auto mode it shuts off when the rear of the coach is about 2 inches lower than the front when measured from the straight section of the frame behind the rear wheels and the furthest horizonal part of the frame towards the front. What is the simplest way to adjust system to get the rear to come all the way up to true level?

Thanks,


--
Sully
77 Royale basket case.
Future motorhome land speed record holder(bucket list)
 
Sully, the height control valves can be adjusted to raise the rear slightly
higher. There are adjustable turnbuckles aftermarket that work well for
this. Normal ride height is somewhat lower in the rear. The specs are in the
MM.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403

>
>
> I have a 77 Royale with electro level suspension(one compressor mounted
> behind drivers side wheel well rear. I believe this is the electro level
> one?)My controller operates the pump on manual raise and lower and will
> level the coach when left on auto. The problem is while it appears to level
> side to side in auto mode it shuts off when the rear of the coach is about 2
> inches lower than the front when measured from the straight section of the
> frame behind the rear wheels and the furthest horizonal part of the frame
> towards the front. What is the simplest way to adjust system to get the rear
> to come all the way up to true level?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> --
> Sully
> 77 Royale basket case.
> Future motorhome land speed record holder(bucket list)
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So the linkages in each wheel well to the valve is the only way to adjust it? Is MM in your response millimeters?

Sully
77 royale
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: James Hupy
Sender: gmclist-bounces
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:52:03
To:
Reply-To: gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] ride height

Sully, the height control valves can be adjusted to raise the rear slightly
higher. There are adjustable turnbuckles aftermarket that work well for
this. Normal ride height is somewhat lower in the rear. The specs are in the
MM.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403

>
>
> I have a 77 Royale with electro level suspension(one compressor mounted
> behind drivers side wheel well rear. I believe this is the electro level
> one?)My controller operates the pump on manual raise and lower and will
> level the coach when left on auto. The problem is while it appears to level
> side to side in auto mode it shuts off when the rear of the coach is about 2
> inches lower than the front when measured from the straight section of the
> frame behind the rear wheels and the furthest horizonal part of the frame
> towards the front. What is the simplest way to adjust system to get the rear
> to come all the way up to true level?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> --
> Sully
> 77 Royale basket case.
> Future motorhome land speed record holder(bucket list)
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Unless it's different for the later coaches, I was told that the correct ride height is 13 - 13 1/2" at the top of the front slots, and 11 11/16" at the top of the measuring slots in the rear.

The correct height will make the rear of the coach ride lower than the front, so don't try to make it level as the coach won't drive correctly on the highway (probably OK in town according to an article JimB wrote at one time). Making blocks of wood that just fit under the frame rails would make setting the ride height a bit easier I would think.
--
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
 
Sully,

If your 1977 Royale with Electro Level I does not have a pair of adjustable
links from Ken Henderson (thru Applied GMC) or Dave Lenzi (listed
alphabetically!).

http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/704

http://www.bdub.net/lenzi/index.html

You will have to adjust the ride height control valves located in the
drivers and passenger rear wheel wells using the procedure below:

Reference: X-7725
Title: 1977 & 1978 Maintenance Manual (MM) Supplement
Page: 4A-23
Paragraph: RIDE HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT
Figure: 23 - Checking Vehicle Ride Height
Figure: 24 - Location for Rear Ride Height Adjustment

If you don't have a copy of the MM you can download it here:

http://www.bdub.net/factory-manuals.html

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


-----Original Message-----
From: sgltrac

So the linkages in each wheel well to the valve is the only way to adjust
it? Is MM in your response millimeters?

Sully
 
Sully,

MM would mean maintenance manual. All measurements are in inches. If you look at the frame rail about 2 1/2 feet aft of either rear tire you'll see an elongated hole. Correct ride height says the distance from the top of the hole to the ground should be 11 11/16 inches. A similar hole behind the front wheels should be 13 1/8". Adjustment can be made to the arm of the leveling valve (on early coaches at least).

Glenn
 
Sully, the MM I refer to is the Maintence Manual. What many GMCers do, is
put a shut off valve at the air bag inlet connection along with a schrader
valve. They adjust the rear ride height by manually airing up the bags until
the bottom of the frame rail is the correct distance from the ground, or
until the visual center of the rear wheel spindles and the bogie pins are
all in a line, or they just use what looks right to them. More of them that
way than any other I suspect according to the coaches that I work on. I like
to be a hell of a lot more precise than that. My 78 Royale handles a lot
better in corners and in truck traffic when it is spot on. I have EL 2,
which has electronic ride height control. I spent a lot of time getting it
to work the way the book says it is supposed to. I have the adjustable
turnbuckles and they simplify the final adjustment proceedure.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403

> So the linkages in each wheel well to the valve is the only way to adjust
> it? Is MM in your response millimeters?
>
> Sully
> 77 royale
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Hupy
> Sender: gmclist-bounces
> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:52:03
> To:
> Reply-To: gmclist
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] ride height
>
> Sully, the height control valves can be adjusted to raise the rear slightly
> higher. There are adjustable turnbuckles aftermarket that work well for
> this. Normal ride height is somewhat lower in the rear. The specs are in
> the
> MM.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, OR
> 78 GMC Royale 403
>

>
> >
> >
> > I have a 77 Royale with electro level suspension(one compressor mounted
> > behind drivers side wheel well rear. I believe this is the electro level
> > one?)My controller operates the pump on manual raise and lower and will
> > level the coach when left on auto. The problem is while it appears to
> level
> > side to side in auto mode it shuts off when the rear of the coach is
> about 2
> > inches lower than the front when measured from the straight section of
> the
> > frame behind the rear wheels and the furthest horizonal part of the frame
> > towards the front. What is the simplest way to adjust system to get the
> rear
> > to come all the way up to true level?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sully
> > 77 Royale basket case.
> > Future motorhome land speed record holder(bucket list)
> > _______________________________________________
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