Recommended C/O and gas detector?
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I have used the Safe T Alert, is dedicated to rv and have features that
other home unit do not have.
I'm sure these are more than the home unit , but your coach not like a
house in many ways.
One need th CO detectors as well as the furnace can have a burned hole in
the chamber.
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:16 PM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
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other home unit do not have.
I'm sure these are more than the home unit , but your coach not like a
house in many ways.
One need th CO detectors as well as the furnace can have a burned hole in
the chamber.
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:16 PM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
> I use Kidde.
>
> --johnny
> --
> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell
>
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Jim Kanomata
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1-800-752-7502
So i got to thinking....Carbon Monoxide is lighter than air and propane is heavier.....is it better to have 2 separate detectors instead of a combined
unit? It just seems like a combined unit would be a compromise on both sides?
What are the masses doing? Do you even have one/both?
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Rich Mondor,
Brockville, ON
77 Hughes 2600
unit? It just seems like a combined unit would be a compromise on both sides?
What are the masses doing? Do you even have one/both?
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Rich Mondor,
Brockville, ON
77 Hughes 2600
Both is better. But the standards say that location of having one high and one low is not needed, because it generally mixes in the air enough to
safely detect at any level. There is a document out there that states that. So a combo unit is fine.
Like Jim said, a true Rv rated one is certified for like -40 to 120 degrees, and some vibration standard. Where a home unit is 40 to 100 degrees.
I have always used home units. But I use at least two. I will probably wise up and get an RV one with the 10 year lithium battery soon.
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Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
safely detect at any level. There is a document out there that states that. So a combo unit is fine.
Like Jim said, a true Rv rated one is certified for like -40 to 120 degrees, and some vibration standard. Where a home unit is 40 to 100 degrees.
I have always used home units. But I use at least two. I will probably wise up and get an RV one with the 10 year lithium battery soon.
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Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
It is generally recommended that a smoke detector be replaced every 8 years and a carbon monoxide detector every 5 years. Some people also have a propane detector which also usually has a 5 year life. Sometimes there is a combined carbon monoxide and propane detector. Some of these detectors have less than a 5 year life. So be sure to read the manufacturer’s instructions. You can write the replacement date in the battery compartment.
I am most concerned with the “silent killer” carbon monoxide as you cannot detect it with your nose and if you have a propane furnace it could developer a leak in the firebox. If your furnace develops a leak you have no way to tell except with a carbon monoxide detector.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
>
> Both is better. But the standards say that location of having one high and one low is not needed, because it generally mixes in the air enough to
> safely detect at any level. There is a document out there that states that. So a combo unit is fine.
>
> Like Jim said, a true Rv rated one is certified for like -40 to 120 degrees, and some vibration standard. Where a home unit is 40 to 100 degrees.
>
>
> I have always used home units. But I use at least two. I will probably wise up and get an RV one with the 10 year lithium battery soon.
>
>
> --
> Jon Roche
> 75 palm beach
> EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
> St. Cloud, MN
> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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I am most concerned with the “silent killer” carbon monoxide as you cannot detect it with your nose and if you have a propane furnace it could developer a leak in the firebox. If your furnace develops a leak you have no way to tell except with a carbon monoxide detector.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
>
> Both is better. But the standards say that location of having one high and one low is not needed, because it generally mixes in the air enough to
> safely detect at any level. There is a document out there that states that. So a combo unit is fine.
>
> Like Jim said, a true Rv rated one is certified for like -40 to 120 degrees, and some vibration standard. Where a home unit is 40 to 100 degrees.
>
>
> I have always used home units. But I use at least two. I will probably wise up and get an RV one with the 10 year lithium battery soon.
>
>
> --
> Jon Roche
> 75 palm beach
> EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
> St. Cloud, MN
> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
>
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Let me re-enforce Emery's posting on CO (Carbon Monoxide) detection. I got carbon monoxided about 15 years ago and it took years to recover. I am
not sure that I ever completely recovered. There is nothing you can do to speed up the recovery if you do not die from it. I still react negatively
any time I am around a running vehicle.
So if you are only going to do one, I strongly suggest CO detection. I have two in my basement where my furnace and water heater are located. I have
two more in the upstairs living area of my home. I have two (front and rear) in my GMC. I also have two in my hangar that occasionally go off when
running a vehicle in there even with the big front door open and the exhaust fan running.
I have thought about a propane one in my GMC but I never installed one.
I also never run my furnace when sleeping in the GMC.
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Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
not sure that I ever completely recovered. There is nothing you can do to speed up the recovery if you do not die from it. I still react negatively
any time I am around a running vehicle.
So if you are only going to do one, I strongly suggest CO detection. I have two in my basement where my furnace and water heater are located. I have
two more in the upstairs living area of my home. I have two (front and rear) in my GMC. I also have two in my hangar that occasionally go off when
running a vehicle in there even with the big front door open and the exhaust fan running.
I have thought about a propane one in my GMC but I never installed one.
I also never run my furnace when sleeping in the GMC.
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Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
I like the Dometic/Atwood. Available in black or white, and you can get a surface mount housing to go with it. 12v. Here's a good deal on it:
https://www.rvpartscountry.com/Atwood-31011-RV-Carbon-Monoxide-and-Propane-Gas-Detector--12-Volt--Black_p_32375.html
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Christo Darsch
GMC Nor'easters
1977 Eleganza II - "The Komet"
3.50 Power Drive, Disc Brakes, Alcoas
Weymouth, MA
https://www.rvpartscountry.com/Atwood-31011-RV-Carbon-Monoxide-and-Propane-Gas-Detector--12-Volt--Black_p_32375.html
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Christo Darsch
GMC Nor'easters
1977 Eleganza II - "The Komet"
3.50 Power Drive, Disc Brakes, Alcoas
Weymouth, MA
The Kidde one I got points out the detection system degrades and hence five years is its life, and at that point it shuts off and alarms. Throw it
away and get another like Emery sez.
--johnny
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Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
away and get another like Emery sez.
--johnny
--
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
So to give everyone an idea of how frustrating this is for purchasing US to Canada. The item listed here at RV Parts Country is on sale for 59.00US
which is an incredible price....i hit "checkout" and they have a box in the "checkout" for International orders....so i click it so it can calculate
the shipping plus it auto converts the deal.... NOW the detector is 102.95cdn (?) PLUS another 72.00cdn shipping.
So even at an exchange rate of let say 0.65cdn to 1.00usd it should have only come to about 79.50cdn and you add shipping now....so the CO/PO detector
that is 59.00us would cost me 150.00ish cdn to buy shipped if at current exchange rates....not sure how they got the 102.95cdn either.... 8o
> I like the Dometic/Atwood. Available in black or white, and you can get a surface mount housing to go with it. 12v. Here's a good deal on it:
> https://www.rvpartscountry.com/Atwood-31011-RV-Carbon-Monoxide-and-Propane-Gas-Detector--12-Volt--Black_p_32375.html
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Rich Mondor,
Brockville, ON
77 Hughes 2600
which is an incredible price....i hit "checkout" and they have a box in the "checkout" for International orders....so i click it so it can calculate
the shipping plus it auto converts the deal.... NOW the detector is 102.95cdn (?) PLUS another 72.00cdn shipping.
So even at an exchange rate of let say 0.65cdn to 1.00usd it should have only come to about 79.50cdn and you add shipping now....so the CO/PO detector
that is 59.00us would cost me 150.00ish cdn to buy shipped if at current exchange rates....not sure how they got the 102.95cdn either.... 8o
> I like the Dometic/Atwood. Available in black or white, and you can get a surface mount housing to go with it. 12v. Here's a good deal on it:
> https://www.rvpartscountry.com/Atwood-31011-RV-Carbon-Monoxide-and-Propane-Gas-Detector--12-Volt--Black_p_32375.html
--
Rich Mondor,
Brockville, ON
77 Hughes 2600
My two cents is to have multiples of each kind. Each GMC coach I have smoke and CO repeated fore and aft. Some are combo units, some are one function.
I have a plug in CO and propane that I use when I actually am set up in camp. My next step is to add constant propane detection, but you can smell it
when awake, and I have a detector when I'm asleep). In my camper van (1996 Dodge) rear near floor is a built in propane/CO and I added a smoke and CO
independent units behind the cockpit seats. If you really want to give it your best shot at early detection (home as well) be sure you have the two
types of smoke detector (ionization and photoelectric) as they do things just slightly different enough that it might give you the edge between early,
close call, and too late. To your dificulty/expense of what to get in Canada - I would think more commonly available house rated ones, redundant, and
replaced on a two or three year cycle would cost less and you could still do multiples...? Maybe?
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1975 Glenbrook, 1978 Royale rear bath
Raleigh, NC
I have a plug in CO and propane that I use when I actually am set up in camp. My next step is to add constant propane detection, but you can smell it
when awake, and I have a detector when I'm asleep). In my camper van (1996 Dodge) rear near floor is a built in propane/CO and I added a smoke and CO
independent units behind the cockpit seats. If you really want to give it your best shot at early detection (home as well) be sure you have the two
types of smoke detector (ionization and photoelectric) as they do things just slightly different enough that it might give you the edge between early,
close call, and too late. To your dificulty/expense of what to get in Canada - I would think more commonly available house rated ones, redundant, and
replaced on a two or three year cycle would cost less and you could still do multiples...? Maybe?
--
1975 Glenbrook, 1978 Royale rear bath
Raleigh, NC
