Rear control arm material

[johnny]

Emery, what do the wheel hub motor assemblies weigh? If you could fit them on the existing bogire without a lot of grief, you'd have pretty much free
rein as to where the engine went. For weight control, I wouldn't mess with batteries, run it like a locomotive. And just blush about the unsprung
weight.

--johnny

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Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell

 

[emerystora]

Here’s one at 79 pounds.

https://www.powerelectronics.com/markets/automotive/article/21864197/inwheel-motor-systems-will-propel-ev-performance

Emery Stora

>
> Emery, what do the wheel hub motor assemblies weigh? If you could fit them on the existing bogire without a lot of grief, you'd have pretty much free
> rein as to where the engine went. For weight control, I wouldn't mess with batteries, run it like a locomotive. And just blush about the unsprung
> weight.
>
> --johnny
>
> --
> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
>
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[RF_Burns]

Richard,
Order up a 6-pack of those bad boy in-wheel motors and see what you come up with!

100 HP each should get it moving, but alas where are you going to put all the batteries!

--
Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.1 ton front end
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My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that

 

[johnny]

If you replace the steel wheel with an 18 inch aluminum one you'd reduce some of the unsprung weight. Again, a diesel engine and generator up front,
skip the battery weight. There was an outfit in Texas, Fort Worth I think, which made power systems for the Navy's riverine boats. A big engine
driven alternator, rectifier pack, and 60Hz inverter. They ought to scale up. I put one set in a promotions van, 350 Econoline. We got 5 or 6KW AC
out of it at 1900 engine RPM (Don't remember the pulley sizes but nit as great as a 2:1 step up).
The concern is how much change would be required to fit 18 inch wheels in place of the current 16s and how would this affect handling. Interesting
concept.

--johnny
--
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell

 

[RF_Burns]

Johnny,
An engine driving a DC generator would get you moving, but I'm not sure you would gain any MPG as the generator/controller/motor losses would likely
add up to approach normal drivetrain losses.

Adding a battery pack would allow you to use a smaller engine-generator set and take advantage of braking regeneration. The battery pack can then fill
in for the lack of engine power when needed.

I suspect payback time, if any, would approach infinity.

--
Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.1 ton front end
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that

 

[peer oliver schmidt]

> I suspect payback time, if any, would approach infinity.

I am pretty sure that ROI is rarely on the mind of anyone that is as
crazy when it comes to getting things done, as Hal S. is

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Best regards

Olly Schmidt
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'76a 26' Eleganza II - Virginia, US
'73 23' Sequoia - Schleswig-Holstein, Germany

 

[hal stclair]

> > I suspect payback time, if any, would approach infinity.
>
> I am pretty sure that ROI is rarely on the mind of anyone that is as
> crazy when it comes to getting things done, as Hal S. is :d
>
> --
> Best regards
>
> Olly Schmidt
> PGP KeyID: 0x4196BF22
> '76a 26' Eleganza II - Virginia, US
> '73 23' Sequoia - Schleswig-Holstein, Germany
>
>
>
>
> But there are limits and this discussion spin up is far above mine :lol:
> Hal
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1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,

1975 Eleganza II, 101230,

1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,

Rio Rancho, NM

 

[peer oliver schmidt]

> But there are limits and this discussion spin up is far above mine :lol:

Let's see wat happens in the next couple of years. Sometimes limits just
evaporate

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Olly Schmidt
PGP KeyID: 0x4196BF22
'76a 26' Eleganza II - Virginia, US
'73 23' Sequoia - Schleswig-Holstein, Germany

 

[jesse farr]

May I suggest y'all are barking up the wrong tree. Check this out:
https://tinyurl.com/y2ca5gco

jesse farr, soddy daisy tn

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Here’s one at 79 pounds.

https://www.powerelectronics.com/markets/automotive/article/21864197/inwheel-motor-systems-will-propel-ev-performance

Emery Stora

>
> Emery, what do the wheel hub motor assemblies weigh? If you could fit them on the existing bogire without a lot of grief, you'd have pretty much free
> rein as to where the engine went. For weight control, I wouldn't mess with batteries, run it like a locomotive. And just blush about the unsprung
> weight.
>
> --johnny
>
> --
> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
>
>
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[douglas smith]

Jesse,
I haven't looked at anything recently that got me so excited as these Ferox guys.
As has already been mentioned, the devil is in the details.
They talk about pressures but not flow rates and that's where I would be concerned.
If I could order six hub drives from these guys and start working out the rest of the issues I would in a heartbeat.
Best would be if I were 20 years younger and 200% richer though. Sigh.
--
Douglas & Virginia Smith
dsmithy18 at gmail
Lincoln Nebraska
’73 “Canyonlands” since ‘95: Wanabizo"
Quadrabag/6 wheel disks/3;70 final/Paterson QuadraJet/Thorley’s/Sundry other
P&W PT6, no wait, that's the wish list...