Put a 5/16 nut driver in a drill. With distributors out. Drove the oil pumps in both engines. Good oil flow in each.
Bob Dunahugh
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RE" Distributor seized up, ( Oiling )
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To be sure I don't drop something, like a nut driver, into the engine, I've
got a piece of thin PVC pipe, 1-1/4" IIRC, with small notch in one side to
clear the cam gear. I put that down in the "distributor hole" to keep
anything dropped in there accessible for recovery.
JWID,
Ken H.
> Put a 5/16 nut driver in a drill. With distributors out. Drove the oil
> pumps in both engines. Good oil flow in each.
> Bob Dunahugh
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got a piece of thin PVC pipe, 1-1/4" IIRC, with small notch in one side to
clear the cam gear. I put that down in the "distributor hole" to keep
anything dropped in there accessible for recovery.
JWID,
Ken H.
> Put a 5/16 nut driver in a drill. With distributors out. Drove the oil
> pumps in both engines. Good oil flow in each.
> Bob Dunahugh
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I agree with Ken H. 100%. DO NOT take chances. That nut driver was very well secured. Bob Dunahugh
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To be sure I don't drop something, like a nut driver, into the engine, I've
got a piece of thin PVC pipe, 1-1/4" IIRC, with small notch in one side to
clear the cam gear. I put that down in the "distributor hole" to keep
anything dropped in there accessible for recovery.
JWID,
Ken H.
> Put a 5/16 nut driver in a drill. With distributors out. Drove the oil
> pumps in both engines. Good oil flow in each.
> Bob Dunahugh
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Subject: [GMCnet] Re: RE" Distributor seized up, ( Oiling )
To be sure I don't drop something, like a nut driver, into the engine, I've
got a piece of thin PVC pipe, 1-1/4" IIRC, with small notch in one side to
clear the cam gear. I put that down in the "distributor hole" to keep
anything dropped in there accessible for recovery.
JWID,
Ken H.
> Put a 5/16 nut driver in a drill. With distributors out. Drove the oil
> pumps in both engines. Good oil flow in each.
> Bob Dunahugh
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I use a socket that fits the hex drive, 1/4" drive. I grind an old
distributor drive shaft square th fit the socket drive end, and weld the
socket onto the oil pump drive shaft. I Chuck the shaft into my 3/8"
cordless drill and turn it onto counterclockwise direction. Then, I engage
the shaft in the engine with the socket and drive the oil pump for a few
minutes until I see oil flowing everywhere including the distributor drive
area.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
> I agree with Ken H. 100%. DO NOT take chances. That nut driver was very
> well secured. Bob Dunahugh
>
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> From: Ken Henderson
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2021 4:44 PM
> To: GMC Mail List
> Subject: [GMCnet] Re: RE" Distributor seized up, ( Oiling )
>
> To be sure I don't drop something, like a nut driver, into the engine, I've
> got a piece of thin PVC pipe, 1-1/4" IIRC, with small notch in one side to
> clear the cam gear. I put that down in the "distributor hole" to keep
> anything dropped in there accessible for recovery.
>
> JWID,
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> > Put a 5/16 nut driver in a drill. With distributors out. Drove the oil
> > pumps in both engines. Good oil flow in each.
> > Bob Dunahugh
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distributor drive shaft square th fit the socket drive end, and weld the
socket onto the oil pump drive shaft. I Chuck the shaft into my 3/8"
cordless drill and turn it onto counterclockwise direction. Then, I engage
the shaft in the engine with the socket and drive the oil pump for a few
minutes until I see oil flowing everywhere including the distributor drive
area.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
> I agree with Ken H. 100%. DO NOT take chances. That nut driver was very
> well secured. Bob Dunahugh
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ken Henderson
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2021 4:44 PM
> To: GMC Mail List
> Subject: [GMCnet] Re: RE" Distributor seized up, ( Oiling )
>
> To be sure I don't drop something, like a nut driver, into the engine, I've
> got a piece of thin PVC pipe, 1-1/4" IIRC, with small notch in one side to
> clear the cam gear. I put that down in the "distributor hole" to keep
> anything dropped in there accessible for recovery.
>
> JWID,
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> > Put a 5/16 nut driver in a drill. With distributors out. Drove the oil
> > pumps in both engines. Good oil flow in each.
> > Bob Dunahugh
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Does the direction that the distributor turns have anything to do with the upwards or downwards pull on the shaft and slinging of oil slinging up
along the shaft? Are the shafts different between clock clock wise and counter clockwise rotation distributors?
I am out of my league here but I believe Olds distributors turn counter clockwise while Chevy and Cadillac distributors turn clockwise. Would it be
possible to install a Chevy / Cadillac distributor in an Olds?
I can not see how it would work with a vacuum advance / centrifugal advance distributor. They would have to pull the opposite direction. On one
without vacuum advance (computer controlled advance) Maybe.
Feel free to tell me that I am all wrong.
Ken B.
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76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
along the shaft? Are the shafts different between clock clock wise and counter clockwise rotation distributors?
I am out of my league here but I believe Olds distributors turn counter clockwise while Chevy and Cadillac distributors turn clockwise. Would it be
possible to install a Chevy / Cadillac distributor in an Olds?
I can not see how it would work with a vacuum advance / centrifugal advance distributor. They would have to pull the opposite direction. On one
without vacuum advance (computer controlled advance) Maybe.
Feel free to tell me that I am all wrong.
Ken B.
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76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
What I finally discovered is that the intermediate shaft was not dropping
all the way down in the oil pump. The new oil pump must have tighter
tolerances or maybe just off a little on mine. The shaft would drop down
and sound solid like it should... but I discovered that it was actually
sticking up almost 1/2". Bob D had a spare rebuilt 455 that I could
compare the height of this shaft. After learning that it wasn't seated
down all the way, I got onto this shaft with a needle nose pliers and while
wiggling back and forth and putting downward pressure on it..... It went
down!!
I hope nobody else ever has to jump on the distributor roller coaster that
I have been on, but if you do.... and need that measurement on how far the
shaft should stick up, call me.
> Problem resolved. All working well. Ken Shaffer will post the details.
> Bob Dunahugh
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all the way down in the oil pump. The new oil pump must have tighter
tolerances or maybe just off a little on mine. The shaft would drop down
and sound solid like it should... but I discovered that it was actually
sticking up almost 1/2". Bob D had a spare rebuilt 455 that I could
compare the height of this shaft. After learning that it wasn't seated
down all the way, I got onto this shaft with a needle nose pliers and while
wiggling back and forth and putting downward pressure on it..... It went
down!!
I hope nobody else ever has to jump on the distributor roller coaster that
I have been on, but if you do.... and need that measurement on how far the
shaft should stick up, call me.
> Problem resolved. All working well. Ken Shaffer will post the details.
> Bob Dunahugh
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Think I’ll take a trip to the men’s mall and pull a distributor off an
Oldsmobile 403
> What I finally discovered is that the intermediate shaft was not dropping
> all the way down in the oil pump. The new oil pump must have tighter
> tolerances or maybe just off a little on mine. The shaft would drop down
> and sound solid like it should... but I discovered that it was actually
> sticking up almost 1/2". Bob D had a spare rebuilt 455 that I could
> compare the height of this shaft. After learning that it wasn't seated
> down all the way, I got onto this shaft with a needle nose pliers and while
> wiggling back and forth and putting downward pressure on it..... It went
> down!!
> I hope nobody else ever has to jump on the distributor roller coaster that
> I have been on, but if you do.... and need that measurement on how far the
> shaft should stick up, call me.
>
>
>
>
> > Problem resolved. All working well. Ken Shaffer will post the details.
> > Bob Dunahugh
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*1978 GMC Kingsley*
*The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!*
*Las Vegas, NV* new email: B52sRule
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Oldsmobile 403
> What I finally discovered is that the intermediate shaft was not dropping
> all the way down in the oil pump. The new oil pump must have tighter
> tolerances or maybe just off a little on mine. The shaft would drop down
> and sound solid like it should... but I discovered that it was actually
> sticking up almost 1/2". Bob D had a spare rebuilt 455 that I could
> compare the height of this shaft. After learning that it wasn't seated
> down all the way, I got onto this shaft with a needle nose pliers and while
> wiggling back and forth and putting downward pressure on it..... It went
> down!!
> I hope nobody else ever has to jump on the distributor roller coaster that
> I have been on, but if you do.... and need that measurement on how far the
> shaft should stick up, call me.
>
>
>
>
> > Problem resolved. All working well. Ken Shaffer will post the details.
> > Bob Dunahugh
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*Las Vegas, NV* new email: B52sRule
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
www.bdub.net/novak/
The only significant spare in "Tweety Bird" is a full-up distributor.
FWIW,
Ken H.
> Think I’ll take a trip to the men’s mall and pull a distributor off an
> Oldsmobile 403
>
>
> > What I finally discovered is that the intermediate shaft was not dropping
> > all the way down in the oil pump. The new oil pump must have tighter
> > tolerances or maybe just off a little on mine. The shaft would drop down
> > and sound solid like it should... but I discovered that it was actually
> > sticking up almost 1/2". Bob D had a spare rebuilt 455 that I could
> > compare the height of this shaft. After learning that it wasn't seated
> > down all the way, I got onto this shaft with a needle nose pliers and
> while
> > wiggling back and forth and putting downward pressure on it..... It went
> > down!!
> > I hope nobody else ever has to jump on the distributor roller coaster
> that
> > I have been on, but if you do.... and need that measurement on how far
> the
> > shaft should stick up, call me.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 7:57 PM Bob Dunahugh
> >
> > > Problem resolved. All working well. Ken Shaffer will post the details.
> > > Bob Dunahugh
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> *Len and Pat Novak*
>
> *1978 GMC Kingsley*
>
> *The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!*
>
> *Las Vegas, NV* new email: B52sRule
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
>
>
>
> www.bdub.net/novak/
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FWIW,
Ken H.
> Think I’ll take a trip to the men’s mall and pull a distributor off an
> Oldsmobile 403
>
>
> > What I finally discovered is that the intermediate shaft was not dropping
> > all the way down in the oil pump. The new oil pump must have tighter
> > tolerances or maybe just off a little on mine. The shaft would drop down
> > and sound solid like it should... but I discovered that it was actually
> > sticking up almost 1/2". Bob D had a spare rebuilt 455 that I could
> > compare the height of this shaft. After learning that it wasn't seated
> > down all the way, I got onto this shaft with a needle nose pliers and
> while
> > wiggling back and forth and putting downward pressure on it..... It went
> > down!!
> > I hope nobody else ever has to jump on the distributor roller coaster
> that
> > I have been on, but if you do.... and need that measurement on how far
> the
> > shaft should stick up, call me.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 7:57 PM Bob Dunahugh
> >
> > > Problem resolved. All working well. Ken Shaffer will post the details.
> > > Bob Dunahugh
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> *Len and Pat Novak*
>
> *1978 GMC Kingsley*
>
> *The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!*
>
> *Las Vegas, NV* new email: B52sRule
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
>
>
>
> www.bdub.net/novak/
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