Ragusa site

You know Tom. I was only letting you know because I had originally thought that
you were getting them right from Ragusa, then you come back with, from Golbys.
If you had said that in the first place I wouldn't have tried to cancel out of
the order. Please don't presume to tell me how to run my business. If you could
let me know all the facts before you berate me then we are both starting on the
same page. You are the one in the past who has jumped on others for not relating
all the facts. Just trying to clarify. I only did what I thought was right. If I
am wrong, there is, definitely, a better way to let me know. Darren

> Darren what to hell are you trying to do. First you tell me you want to
> cancel your order because you want to support Ragusa and than you reference
> a URL with out of date prices. The prices I posted are the ones given me by
> Ron at Ragusa, not Golbys. Is this how you run your business? And for the
> record it is not THROUGH Tom, I am only coordinating it. Maybe it is cheap
> things like this that is stopping others from doing what I am.
>

> >Tom and others involved in the net Ragusa buy, check out the prices to
> >make a fair comparison.
> >http://www.ragusarv.addr.com
> >If it is still cheaper through Tom do what you think is best for
> >yourself. Darren
> >
> >--
> > Darren Paget
> > 76 Experimental
> > Another Fab Day
> > http://www.TZEplus.com
> >
> >
> >
> >

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Darren Paget
76 Experimental
Another Fab Day
http://www.TZEplus.com
 
Let's see if I've got this straight. Ragusa sells direct to individuals@
list price (retail), and also to distributors at some lower price
(wholesale). It is good business for Ragusa, or any similar manufacturer to
discount their product to distributors who buy in volume and bear all the
costs for marketing, warehousing, etc. Ragusa makes a profit on both kinds
of sales and is, or should be, eager to increase sales by either method. If
one of Ragusa's distributors (in this case, Golby's) is willing to forego
their usual margin of profit to benefit its customer base, who is hurt by
those customers taking advantage of the opportunity.

Tom, when you give Golby's the list , please advise them that they won't
hear from me until early to mid July due to my traveling, and to please
hold a final drive cover for a 3.07 (10 bolt ?) until I return.

And thanks for your effort on our behalf.

Dave (advisor/navigator) & Dege (ALL else), '76 Royale, Santa Barbara, CA
 
Absolutely correct. That is the way 99% of manufacturers do it if they also
sell retail. Darren

> Let's see if I've got this straight. Ragusa sells direct to individuals@
> list price (retail), and also to distributors at some lower price
> (wholesale). It is good business for Ragusa, or any similar manufacturer to
> discount their product to distributors who buy in volume and bear all the
> costs for marketing, warehousing, etc. Ragusa makes a profit on both kinds
> of sales and is, or should be, eager to increase sales by either method. If
> one of Ragusa's distributors (in this case, Golby's) is willing to forego
> their usual margin of profit to benefit its customer base, who is hurt by
> those customers taking advantage of the opportunity.
>
> Tom, when you give Golby's the list , please advise them that they won't
> hear from me until early to mid July due to my traveling, and to please
> hold a final drive cover for a 3.07 (10 bolt ?) until I return.
>
> And thanks for your effort on our behalf.
>
> Dave (advisor/navigator) & Dege (ALL else), '76 Royale, Santa Barbara, CA

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Darren Paget
76 Experimental
Another Fab Day
http://www.TZEplus.com
 
If it is your intention to accuse me of this then go right ahead. Fill your boots. I
should have followed my first instincts and left the whole thing alone. I really am
sorry it has come to this. Darren

> Darren I did relay all the facts if you had cared to read before you started
> getting involved. Did you ever read this email to the net?
> -----------------------------
>
> Have run into a problem with Ragusa on the bulk buy. At first they told me
> they would give 20-25% for an order as large as we have now. We have 25
> individuals so far and about $5100 worth of merchandise. In fact he got
> real hard nosed about the whole thing telling me "you are eating up all of
> my profit at 20%, and if you want these you have to buy from me since no one
> else makes them". Well he was right on that, but I will be damned if I like
> his attitude.
>
> Called another GMC Motorhome dealer, Golby Motors in Orlando Florida and
> they were happy to deal with us. They will give us a 20% discount across the
> board on all items. Once we cut off the list of netters that want to buy,I
> will FAX the list to them and than each individual can call Golbys toll free
> number (I will post the name of the contact individual and the number when
> the list is closed)and give them a credit card number and they will ship the
> item to you.
> ---------------------------------
> I originally had a deal with Ron to provide the net with their products at a
> 20% discount. Only after I posted the information on this site did they
> change their mind siting a policy of supporting their dealers. Than I get
> this email from you Darren, did you contact Ragusa?
>
> Tom, please take me off the Ragusa buy list. I think I will go through
> Ron at Ragusas, in person. Also being in business with GM parts and acc.
> I feel I should support the shop that is first in line. I was under the
> impression that you were dealing direct with Ragusa and not another
> party. Thanks for your efforts but please remove my order. Darren
>
> I changed from Ragusa to Golbys for two reasons: 1) Rons attitude when he
> told me they dont have to cut prices they are the only place to buy the
> merchandise and 2) Golby agreed to give us the 20% discount that Ragusa
> would not.
>
> As for the list prices, Golbys will use whatever list price Ragusa provides.
> For the last time the prices that i listed were provided by Ragusa not
> Golbys. I have no idea why the discrepancy exists.
>
> I do not care how many are on the list as I do not benefit in it in any way.
> I am just trying to provide a service to others that some others on this net
> charge for. By the way do you discount your merchandise to netters?
>
> tom and of course as always just my opinion
>

> >You know Tom. I was only letting you know because I had originally thought that
> >you were getting them right from Ragusa, then you come back with, from Golbys.
> >If you had said that in the first place I wouldn't have tried to cancel out of
> >the order. Please don't presume to tell me how to run my business. If you could
> >let me know all the facts before you berate me then we are both starting on the
> >same page. You are the one in the past who has jumped on others for not
> relating
> >all the facts. Just trying to clarify. I only did what I thought was right.
> If I
> >am wrong, there is, definitely, a better way to let me know. Darren
> >

> >
> >> Darren what to hell are you trying to do. First you tell me you want to
> >> cancel your order because you want to support Ragusa and than you reference
> >> a URL with out of date prices. The prices I posted are the ones given me by
> >> Ron at Ragusa, not Golbys. Is this how you run your business? And for the
> >> record it is not THROUGH Tom, I am only coordinating it. Maybe it is cheap
> >> things like this that is stopping others from doing what I am.
> >>

> >> >Tom and others involved in the net Ragusa buy, check out the prices to
> >> >make a fair comparison.
> >> >http://www.ragusarv.addr.com
> >> >If it is still cheaper through Tom do what you think is best for
> >> >yourself. Darren
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> > Darren Paget
> >> > 76 Experimental
> >> > Another Fab Day
> >> > http://www.TZEplus.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >--
> > Darren Paget
> > 76 Experimental
> > Another Fab Day
> > http://www.TZEplus.com
> >
> >
> >
> >

- --
Darren Paget
76 Experimental
Another Fab Day
http://www.TZEplus.com
 
What did I do? I didn't talk with Ragusa except to find out information. I never
mentioned what you were doing. I didn't talk with any one else. I only passed on
information which I thought was relevant to the group purchase. I withdrew my name
because I choose to not support Golbys. I talked with Ragusa about their pricing,
and whether or not it was accurate on their site. Don't you dare tell me how to
conduct my affairs or bring them into question in public again. If you have
something personal to say to me do it off net.

> than why didnt you send an email directly to me and find out what I had
> done. I think your intention are known only to you.
>
> I have filled my boots before but I think this time you better check yours
> from the email I am getting. It was totally unnecessary for you to do what
> you did? By the way do you sell Ragusa products?
>
> tom
>

> >If it is your intention to accuse me of this then go right ahead. Fill your
> boots. I
> >should have followed my first instincts and left the whole thing alone. I
> really am
> >sorry it has come to this. Darren
> >

> >
> >> Darren I did relay all the facts if you had cared to read before you started
> >> getting involved. Did you ever read this email to the net?
> >> -----------------------------
> >>
> >> Have run into a problem with Ragusa on the bulk buy. At first they told me
> >> they would give 20-25% for an order as large as we have now. We have 25
> >> individuals so far and about $5100 worth of merchandise. In fact he got
> >> real hard nosed about the whole thing telling me "you are eating up all of
> >> my profit at 20%, and if you want these you have to buy from me since no one
> >> else makes them". Well he was right on that, but I will be damned if I like
> >> his attitude.
> >>
> >> Called another GMC Motorhome dealer, Golby Motors in Orlando Florida and
> >> they were happy to deal with us. They will give us a 20% discount across the
> >> board on all items. Once we cut off the list of netters that want to buy,I
> >> will FAX the list to them and than each individual can call Golbys toll free
> >> number (I will post the name of the contact individual and the number when
> >> the list is closed)and give them a credit card number and they will ship the
> >> item to you.
> >> ---------------------------------
> >> I originally had a deal with Ron to provide the net with their products at a
> >> 20% discount. Only after I posted the information on this site did they
> >> change their mind siting a policy of supporting their dealers. Than I get
> >> this email from you Darren, did you contact Ragusa?
> >>
> >> Tom, please take me off the Ragusa buy list. I think I will go through
> >> Ron at Ragusas, in person. Also being in business with GM parts and acc.
> >> I feel I should support the shop that is first in line. I was under the
> >> impression that you were dealing direct with Ragusa and not another
> >> party. Thanks for your efforts but please remove my order. Darren
> >>
> >> I changed from Ragusa to Golbys for two reasons: 1) Rons attitude when he
> >> told me they dont have to cut prices they are the only place to buy the
> >> merchandise and 2) Golby agreed to give us the 20% discount that Ragusa
> >> would not.
> >>
> >> As for the list prices, Golbys will use whatever list price Ragusa provides.
> >> For the last time the prices that i listed were provided by Ragusa not
> >> Golbys. I have no idea why the discrepancy exists.
> >>
> >> I do not care how many are on the list as I do not benefit in it in any way.
> >> I am just trying to provide a service to others that some others on this net
> >> charge for. By the way do you discount your merchandise to netters?
> >>
> >> tom and of course as always just my opinion
> >>

> >> >You know Tom. I was only letting you know because I had originally
> thought that
> >> >you were getting them right from Ragusa, then you come back with, from
> Golbys.
> >> >If you had said that in the first place I wouldn't have tried to cancel
> out of
> >> >the order. Please don't presume to tell me how to run my business. If
> you could
> >> >let me know all the facts before you berate me then we are both starting
> on the
> >> >same page. You are the one in the past who has jumped on others for not
> >> relating
> >> >all the facts. Just trying to clarify. I only did what I thought was right.
> >> If I
> >> >am wrong, there is, definitely, a better way to let me know. Darren
> >> >

> >> >
> >> >> Darren what to hell are you trying to do. First you tell me you want to
> >> >> cancel your order because you want to support Ragusa and than you
> reference
> >> >> a URL with out of date prices. The prices I posted are the ones given
> me by
> >> >> Ron at Ragusa, not Golbys. Is this how you run your business? And for the
> >> >> record it is not THROUGH Tom, I am only coordinating it. Maybe it is cheap
> >> >> things like this that is stopping others from doing what I am.
> >> >>

> >> >> >Tom and others involved in the net Ragusa buy, check out the prices to
> >> >> >make a fair comparison.
> >> >> >http://www.ragusarv.addr.com
> >> >> >If it is still cheaper through Tom do what you think is best for
> >> >> >yourself. Darren
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> > Darren Paget
> >> >> > 76 Experimental
> >> >> > Another Fab Day
> >> >> > http://www.TZEplus.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> > Darren Paget
> >> > 76 Experimental
> >> > Another Fab Day
> >> > http://www.TZEplus.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >--
> > Darren Paget
> > 76 Experimental
> > Another Fab Day
> > http://www.TZEplus.com
> >
> >
> >
> >

- --
Darren Paget
76 Experimental
Another Fab Day
http://www.TZEplus.com
 
Off net Tom. Off net.

> than why didnt you send an email directly to me and find out what I had
> done. I think your intention are known only to you.
>
> I have filled my boots before but I think this time you better check yours
> from the email I am getting. It was totally unnecessary for you to do what
> you did? By the way do you sell Ragusa products?
>
> tom
>

> >If it is your intention to accuse me of this then go right ahead. Fill your
> boots. I
> >should have followed my first instincts and left the whole thing alone. I
> really am
> >sorry it has come to this. Darren
> >

> >
> >> Darren I did relay all the facts if you had cared to read before you started
> >> getting involved. Did you ever read this email to the net?
> >> -----------------------------
> >>
> >> Have run into a problem with Ragusa on the bulk buy. At first they told me
> >> they would give 20-25% for an order as large as we have now. We have 25
> >> individuals so far and about $5100 worth of merchandise. In fact he got
> >> real hard nosed about the whole thing telling me "you are eating up all of
> >> my profit at 20%, and if you want these you have to buy from me since no one
> >> else makes them". Well he was right on that, but I will be damned if I like
> >> his attitude.
> >>
> >> Called another GMC Motorhome dealer, Golby Motors in Orlando Florida and
> >> they were happy to deal with us. They will give us a 20% discount across the
> >> board on all items. Once we cut off the list of netters that want to buy,I
> >> will FAX the list to them and than each individual can call Golbys toll free
> >> number (I will post the name of the contact individual and the number when
> >> the list is closed)and give them a credit card number and they will ship the
> >> item to you.
> >> ---------------------------------
> >> I originally had a deal with Ron to provide the net with their products at a
> >> 20% discount. Only after I posted the information on this site did they
> >> change their mind siting a policy of supporting their dealers. Than I get
> >> this email from you Darren, did you contact Ragusa?
> >>
> >> Tom, please take me off the Ragusa buy list. I think I will go through
> >> Ron at Ragusas, in person. Also being in business with GM parts and acc.
> >> I feel I should support the shop that is first in line. I was under the
> >> impression that you were dealing direct with Ragusa and not another
> >> party. Thanks for your efforts but please remove my order. Darren
> >>
> >> I changed from Ragusa to Golbys for two reasons: 1) Rons attitude when he
> >> told me they dont have to cut prices they are the only place to buy the
> >> merchandise and 2) Golby agreed to give us the 20% discount that Ragusa
> >> would not.
> >>
> >> As for the list prices, Golbys will use whatever list price Ragusa provides.
> >> For the last time the prices that i listed were provided by Ragusa not
> >> Golbys. I have no idea why the discrepancy exists.
> >>
> >> I do not care how many are on the list as I do not benefit in it in any way.
> >> I am just trying to provide a service to others that some others on this net
> >> charge for. By the way do you discount your merchandise to netters?
> >>
> >> tom and of course as always just my opinion
> >>

> >> >You know Tom. I was only letting you know because I had originally
> thought that
> >> >you were getting them right from Ragusa, then you come back with, from
> Golbys.
> >> >If you had said that in the first place I wouldn't have tried to cancel
> out of
> >> >the order. Please don't presume to tell me how to run my business. If
> you could
> >> >let me know all the facts before you berate me then we are both starting
> on the
> >> >same page. You are the one in the past who has jumped on others for not
> >> relating
> >> >all the facts. Just trying to clarify. I only did what I thought was right.
> >> If I
> >> >am wrong, there is, definitely, a better way to let me know. Darren
> >> >

> >> >
> >> >> Darren what to hell are you trying to do. First you tell me you want to
> >> >> cancel your order because you want to support Ragusa and than you
> reference
> >> >> a URL with out of date prices. The prices I posted are the ones given
> me by
> >> >> Ron at Ragusa, not Golbys. Is this how you run your business? And for the
> >> >> record it is not THROUGH Tom, I am only coordinating it. Maybe it is cheap
> >> >> things like this that is stopping others from doing what I am.
> >> >>

> >> >> >Tom and others involved in the net Ragusa buy, check out the prices to
> >> >> >make a fair comparison.
> >> >> >http://www.ragusarv.addr.com
> >> >> >If it is still cheaper through Tom do what you think is best for
> >> >> >yourself. Darren
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> > Darren Paget
> >> >> > 76 Experimental
> >> >> > Another Fab Day
> >> >> > http://www.TZEplus.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> > Darren Paget
> >> > 76 Experimental
> >> > Another Fab Day
> >> > http://www.TZEplus.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >--
> > Darren Paget
> > 76 Experimental
> > Another Fab Day
> > http://www.TZEplus.com
> >
> >
> >
> >

- --
Darren Paget
76 Experimental
Another Fab Day
http://www.TZEplus.com
 
Retract this. This was supposed to be sent privately. Man I really am sorry.
Darren. Back into the corner, I go.

> What did I do? I didn't talk with Ragusa except to find out information. I never
> mentioned what you were doing. I didn't talk with any one else. I only passed on
> information which I thought was relevant to the group purchase. I withdrew my name
> because I choose to not support Golbys. I talked with Ragusa about their pricing,
> and whether or not it was accurate on their site. Don't you dare tell me how to
> conduct my affairs or bring them into question in public again. If you have
> something personal to say to me do it off net.
>

>
> > than why didnt you send an email directly to me and find out what I had
> > done. I think your intention are known only to you.
> >
> > I have filled my boots before but I think this time you better check yours
> > from the email I am getting. It was totally unnecessary for you to do what
> > you did? By the way do you sell Ragusa products?
> >
> > tom
> >

> > >If it is your intention to accuse me of this then go right ahead. Fill your
> > boots. I
> > >should have followed my first instincts and left the whole thing alone. I
> > really am
> > >sorry it has come to this. Darren
> > >

> > >
> > >> Darren I did relay all the facts if you had cared to read before you started
> > >> getting involved. Did you ever read this email to the net?
> > >> -----------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Have run into a problem with Ragusa on the bulk buy. At first they told me
> > >> they would give 20-25% for an order as large as we have now. We have 25
> > >> individuals so far and about $5100 worth of merchandise. In fact he got
> > >> real hard nosed about the whole thing telling me "you are eating up all of
> > >> my profit at 20%, and if you want these you have to buy from me since no one
> > >> else makes them". Well he was right on that, but I will be damned if I like
> > >> his attitude.
> > >>
> > >> Called another GMC Motorhome dealer, Golby Motors in Orlando Florida and
> > >> they were happy to deal with us. They will give us a 20% discount across the
> > >> board on all items. Once we cut off the list of netters that want to buy,I
> > >> will FAX the list to them and than each individual can call Golbys toll free
> > >> number (I will post the name of the contact individual and the number when
> > >> the list is closed)and give them a credit card number and they will ship the
> > >> item to you.
> > >> ---------------------------------
> > >> I originally had a deal with Ron to provide the net with their products at a
> > >> 20% discount. Only after I posted the information on this site did they
> > >> change their mind siting a policy of supporting their dealers. Than I get
> > >> this email from you Darren, did you contact Ragusa?
> > >>
> > >> Tom, please take me off the Ragusa buy list. I think I will go through
> > >> Ron at Ragusas, in person. Also being in business with GM parts and acc.
> > >> I feel I should support the shop that is first in line. I was under the
> > >> impression that you were dealing direct with Ragusa and not another
> > >> party. Thanks for your efforts but please remove my order. Darren
> > >>
> > >> I changed from Ragusa to Golbys for two reasons: 1) Rons attitude when he
> > >> told me they dont have to cut prices they are the only place to buy the
> > >> merchandise and 2) Golby agreed to give us the 20% discount that Ragusa
> > >> would not.
> > >>
> > >> As for the list prices, Golbys will use whatever list price Ragusa provides.
> > >> For the last time the prices that i listed were provided by Ragusa not
> > >> Golbys. I have no idea why the discrepancy exists.
> > >>
> > >> I do not care how many are on the list as I do not benefit in it in any way.
> > >> I am just trying to provide a service to others that some others on this net
> > >> charge for. By the way do you discount your merchandise to netters?
> > >>
> > >> tom and of course as always just my opinion
> > >>

> > >> >You know Tom. I was only letting you know because I had originally
> > thought that
> > >> >you were getting them right from Ragusa, then you come back with, from
> > Golbys.
> > >> >If you had said that in the first place I wouldn't have tried to cancel
> > out of
> > >> >the order. Please don't presume to tell me how to run my business. If
> > you could
> > >> >let me know all the facts before you berate me then we are both starting
> > on the
> > >> >same page. You are the one in the past who has jumped on others for not
> > >> relating
> > >> >all the facts. Just trying to clarify. I only did what I thought was right.
> > >> If I
> > >> >am wrong, there is, definitely, a better way to let me know. Darren
> > >> >

> > >> >
> > >> >> Darren what to hell are you trying to do. First you tell me you want to
> > >> >> cancel your order because you want to support Ragusa and than you
> > reference
> > >> >> a URL with out of date prices. The prices I posted are the ones given
> > me by
> > >> >> Ron at Ragusa, not Golbys. Is this how you run your business? And for the
> > >> >> record it is not THROUGH Tom, I am only coordinating it. Maybe it is cheap
> > >> >> things like this that is stopping others from doing what I am.
> > >> >>

> > >> >> >Tom and others involved in the net Ragusa buy, check out the prices to
> > >> >> >make a fair comparison.
> > >> >> >http://www.ragusarv.addr.com
> > >> >> >If it is still cheaper through Tom do what you think is best for
> > >> >> >yourself. Darren
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >--
> > >> >> > Darren Paget
> > >> >> > 76 Experimental
> > >> >> > Another Fab Day
> > >> >> > http://www.TZEplus.com
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >--
> > >> > Darren Paget
> > >> > 76 Experimental
> > >> > Another Fab Day
> > >> > http://www.TZEplus.com
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >
> > >--
> > > Darren Paget
> > > 76 Experimental
> > > Another Fab Day
> > > http://www.TZEplus.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> Darren Paget
> 76 Experimental
> Another Fab Day
> http://www.TZEplus.com

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Darren Paget
76 Experimental
Another Fab Day
http://www.TZEplus.com