Question - Painting the GMC
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Rob
My window frames are anodized, and the body shop masked them off when they
painted the coach.
Chuck
77 K
North Idaho
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>Hey guys,
> when you get the coach painted..Do you have
> all the window frame removed? Need to know
> for future refrence.
> Thanks,
> Robert Teed 74 Painted Desert
>
My window frames are anodized, and the body shop masked them off when they
painted the coach.
Chuck
77 K
North Idaho
- -
>Hey guys,
> when you get the coach painted..Do you have
> all the window frame removed? Need to know
> for future refrence.
> Thanks,
> Robert Teed 74 Painted Desert
>
Rob;
I did not remove mine and it seems to be fine, but I do not have any
windows except the door, front and rear. So others may have a different
answer. With proper masking you should be fine.
Marcus
> Hey guys,
> when you get the coach painted..Do you have
> all the window frame removed? Need to know
> for future refrence.
> Thanks,
> Robert Teed 74 Painted Desert
I did not remove mine and it seems to be fine, but I do not have any
windows except the door, front and rear. So others may have a different
answer. With proper masking you should be fine.
Marcus
> Hey guys,
> when you get the coach painted..Do you have
> all the window frame removed? Need to know
> for future refrence.
> Thanks,
> Robert Teed 74 Painted Desert
Thanks for the info Chuck. Mine are black anodized and some bare aluminum.
Rob Teed 74 Painted Desert
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gmcmotorhome
> [mailto
wner-gmcmotorhome]On Behalf Of Chuck Blanford
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 8:34 AM
> To: gmcmotorhome
> Subject: Re: GMC: Re:Question - Painting the GMC
>
>
> Rob
>
> My window frames are anodized, and the body shop masked them off when they
> painted the coach.
>
> Chuck
> 77 K
> North Idaho
>
> -
>
> >Hey guys,
> > when you get the coach painted..Do you have
> > all the window frame removed? Need to know
> > for future refrence.
> > Thanks,
> > Robert Teed 74 Painted Desert
> >
>
>
>
Rob Teed 74 Painted Desert
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gmcmotorhome
> [mailto
wner-gmcmotorhome]On Behalf Of Chuck Blanford> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 8:34 AM
> To: gmcmotorhome
> Subject: Re: GMC: Re:Question - Painting the GMC
>
>
> Rob
>
> My window frames are anodized, and the body shop masked them off when they
> painted the coach.
>
> Chuck
> 77 K
> North Idaho
>
> -
>
> >Hey guys,
> > when you get the coach painted..Do you have
> > all the window frame removed? Need to know
> > for future refrence.
> > Thanks,
> > Robert Teed 74 Painted Desert
> >
>
>
>
Marcus,
My thoughts are that if the window frames are removed then the paint will
be
behind the frames, so no chance of peeling around windows. Maybe this isn't
really a concern though.But if it is, then I don't want to seal the windows
with sealer until after I have the coach painted.
Rob Teed
>
>
> Rob;
>
> I did not remove mine and it seems to be fine, but I do not have any
> windows except the door, front and rear. So others may have a different
> answer. With proper masking you should be fine.
>
> Marcus
My thoughts are that if the window frames are removed then the paint will
be
behind the frames, so no chance of peeling around windows. Maybe this isn't
really a concern though.But if it is, then I don't want to seal the windows
with sealer until after I have the coach painted.
Rob Teed
>
>
> Rob;
>
> I did not remove mine and it seems to be fine, but I do not have any
> windows except the door, front and rear. So others may have a different
> answer. With proper masking you should be fine.
>
> Marcus
Rob:
I agree that for a first class quality coach paint job that the windows
should be removed. Sure it's a little more effort, but the long term
benefits are worth it.
You mention window sealer. Although I'm uncertain what you would use, I
replaced all my coach side windows with the new T-slider type and used a
recommended butyl type tape around the inside of the window frame flange.
When you snug down the retaining plates/trim ring, the butyl extrudes out
from behind the window flange giving an excellent seal. All you need do to
clean off the excess butyl material is use a plastic silverware knife to
trim it back to the window flange and clean any residue with WD 40 or
similar.
I obtained the butyl tape from a local RV dealer. It comes in a roll of 25'
and has a crinkled release paper on one surface to prevent sticking. It was
around $5 a roll.
Paul Bartz
From: Rob Teed [mailto:robteed]
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 9:40 PM
Subject: RE: GMC: Question - Painting the GMC
Marcus,
My thoughts are that if the window frames are removed then the paint will be
behind the frames, so no chance of peeling around windows. Maybe this isn't
really a concern though.But if it is, then I don't want to seal the windows
with sealer until after I have the coach painted.
Rob;
I did not remove mine and it seems to be fine, but I do not have any windows
except the door, front and rear. So others may have a different answer.
With proper masking you should be fine.
Marcus
I agree that for a first class quality coach paint job that the windows
should be removed. Sure it's a little more effort, but the long term
benefits are worth it.
You mention window sealer. Although I'm uncertain what you would use, I
replaced all my coach side windows with the new T-slider type and used a
recommended butyl type tape around the inside of the window frame flange.
When you snug down the retaining plates/trim ring, the butyl extrudes out
from behind the window flange giving an excellent seal. All you need do to
clean off the excess butyl material is use a plastic silverware knife to
trim it back to the window flange and clean any residue with WD 40 or
similar.
I obtained the butyl tape from a local RV dealer. It comes in a roll of 25'
and has a crinkled release paper on one surface to prevent sticking. It was
around $5 a roll.
Paul Bartz
From: Rob Teed [mailto:robteed]
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 9:40 PM
Subject: RE: GMC: Question - Painting the GMC
Marcus,
My thoughts are that if the window frames are removed then the paint will be
behind the frames, so no chance of peeling around windows. Maybe this isn't
really a concern though.But if it is, then I don't want to seal the windows
with sealer until after I have the coach painted.
Rob;
I did not remove mine and it seems to be fine, but I do not have any windows
except the door, front and rear. So others may have a different answer.
With proper masking you should be fine.
Marcus
Paul,
Tell me about the "new T-slider" windows. What are the features?? Where did you
get them?? How much?? TIA
Gary
'77 Kingsley
North Bend, Oregon Coast
> (SNIP)
> replaced all my coach side windows with the new T-slider type (SNIP)
Tell me about the "new T-slider" windows. What are the features?? Where did you
get them?? How much?? TIA
Gary
'77 Kingsley
North Bend, Oregon Coast
> (SNIP)
> replaced all my coach side windows with the new T-slider type (SNIP)
Gary:
T-slider type windows are the type used in most vans today. It really
should be called an upside down T, since the short height slider portion is
on the bottom part of the window.
If you subscribe to the GMCMM magazine, look up the ad for Motorhome
Enhancements, Inc. The GMC graphic there gives you the architecture of the
windows and the features are listed in a table in the ad.
Price is dependent on how many windows you get. My Royale for example, has
one less window (the 2 footer behind the 5 foot drivers side window) than
the standard GMC interior types. I believe price is approximately $1250 for
all windows (GMC interior), which includes shipping.
Paul Bartz
From: Gary Miller [mailto:grizzly]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: GMC: Question - Painting the GMC
Paul,
Tell me about the "new T-slider" windows. What are the features?? Where did
you get them?? How much??
(SNIP)
replaced all my coach side windows with the new T-slider type (SNIP)
T-slider type windows are the type used in most vans today. It really
should be called an upside down T, since the short height slider portion is
on the bottom part of the window.
If you subscribe to the GMCMM magazine, look up the ad for Motorhome
Enhancements, Inc. The GMC graphic there gives you the architecture of the
windows and the features are listed in a table in the ad.
Price is dependent on how many windows you get. My Royale for example, has
one less window (the 2 footer behind the 5 foot drivers side window) than
the standard GMC interior types. I believe price is approximately $1250 for
all windows (GMC interior), which includes shipping.
Paul Bartz
From: Gary Miller [mailto:grizzly]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: GMC: Question - Painting the GMC
Paul,
Tell me about the "new T-slider" windows. What are the features?? Where did
you get them?? How much??
(SNIP)
replaced all my coach side windows with the new T-slider type (SNIP)
John:
Let me explain it to you this way. I first saw the windows two years ago @
the Boerne TX GMCMI Convention and was immediately impressed. I decided
that I would replace my windows in the future. However, a week and a half
after I returned home from Boerne, someone threw a quart beer bottle thru
the right side rear window. Needless to say that incident hurried up my
schedule.
After installing the broken window, I turned to look out the opposite side
of the coach and couldn't believe what I was seeing. It was like night and
day. The original window's have one half of their total width covered with
a screen and they also have a vertical mullion right down the middle. In
comparison, the new windows give you a panoramic view in my opinion.
One criticism I've heard is that the slider portion framework obstructs
vision for some individuals. In our case, that's not true.
Call either Gene Dotson or Jim Buchanan and find out who in your area has
the new windows and then go see them for yourself.
The fit is excellent, the glass is tinted, and they are very modern looking.
Paul Bartz
From: John Dolan [mailto:jdolan]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: GMC: Question - Painting the GMC
Thanks Paul...
If you subscribe to the GMCMM magazine, look up the ad for Motorhome
Enhancements, Inc. The GMC graphic there gives you the architecture of the
windows and the features are listed in a table in the ad.
I have a further question, but first let me thank you for your first answer
and do my part to help with this body of knowledge...
Thanks for the pointer to the ad which explains things quite nicely.
One of the features mentioned in the ad says, Fits Flush....Modern
Appearance... The newer Vans have a window that is almost flush with the
body surface of the car and almost seems contiguous with it, with almost no
trim ring or moulding around the window. Is that what they are selling? In
others words, how does it look? I find it hard to justify new windows on my
unit just because they slide hard and rattle on bumpy roads, but maybe there
are some things that I did not realize about new windows.
Let me explain it to you this way. I first saw the windows two years ago @
the Boerne TX GMCMI Convention and was immediately impressed. I decided
that I would replace my windows in the future. However, a week and a half
after I returned home from Boerne, someone threw a quart beer bottle thru
the right side rear window. Needless to say that incident hurried up my
schedule.
After installing the broken window, I turned to look out the opposite side
of the coach and couldn't believe what I was seeing. It was like night and
day. The original window's have one half of their total width covered with
a screen and they also have a vertical mullion right down the middle. In
comparison, the new windows give you a panoramic view in my opinion.
One criticism I've heard is that the slider portion framework obstructs
vision for some individuals. In our case, that's not true.
Call either Gene Dotson or Jim Buchanan and find out who in your area has
the new windows and then go see them for yourself.
The fit is excellent, the glass is tinted, and they are very modern looking.
Paul Bartz
From: John Dolan [mailto:jdolan]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: GMC: Question - Painting the GMC
Thanks Paul...
If you subscribe to the GMCMM magazine, look up the ad for Motorhome
Enhancements, Inc. The GMC graphic there gives you the architecture of the
windows and the features are listed in a table in the ad.
I have a further question, but first let me thank you for your first answer
and do my part to help with this body of knowledge...
Thanks for the pointer to the ad which explains things quite nicely.
One of the features mentioned in the ad says, Fits Flush....Modern
Appearance... The newer Vans have a window that is almost flush with the
body surface of the car and almost seems contiguous with it, with almost no
trim ring or moulding around the window. Is that what they are selling? In
others words, how does it look? I find it hard to justify new windows on my
unit just because they slide hard and rattle on bumpy roads, but maybe there
are some things that I did not realize about new windows.
Justin:
Although I had not thought about including the driver and passenger windows
when I said I advocated side window removal prior to painting, that is a
good idea also.
At Myrtle Beach, I heard that GMC Motorhome Enhancements, Inc, is close to
releasing a replacement driver and passenger combination sliding window.
Paul Bartz
From: GMC77PB [mailto:GMC77PB]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: GMC: Question - Painting the GMC
In a message dated 3/31/99 10:53:27 AM Central Standard Time,
I agree that for a first class quality coach paint job that the windows
should be removed. Sure it's a little more effort, but the long term
benefits are worth it.
Prior to renovation of our coach, I had a bad water leak when driving in the
rain. Inside right behind the step would get soaked. I was convinced the
wheel was throwing up water and it was getting through somewhere. Squirted a
lot of stuff behind wheel to no avail. When the inside panels were taken
out, SURPRISE the leak had been coming from the co-pilot side window around
the frame.
Justin
Although I had not thought about including the driver and passenger windows
when I said I advocated side window removal prior to painting, that is a
good idea also.
At Myrtle Beach, I heard that GMC Motorhome Enhancements, Inc, is close to
releasing a replacement driver and passenger combination sliding window.
Paul Bartz
From: GMC77PB [mailto:GMC77PB]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: GMC: Question - Painting the GMC
In a message dated 3/31/99 10:53:27 AM Central Standard Time,
I agree that for a first class quality coach paint job that the windows
should be removed. Sure it's a little more effort, but the long term
benefits are worth it.
Prior to renovation of our coach, I had a bad water leak when driving in the
rain. Inside right behind the step would get soaked. I was convinced the
wheel was throwing up water and it was getting through somewhere. Squirted a
lot of stuff behind wheel to no avail. When the inside panels were taken
out, SURPRISE the leak had been coming from the co-pilot side window around
the frame.
Justin
Thanks Paul...
>If you subscribe to the GMCMM magazine, look up the ad for Motorhome
>Enhancements, Inc. The GMC graphic there gives you the architecture of
>the windows and the features are listed in a table in the ad.
I have a further question, but first let me thank you for your first
answer and do my part to help with this body of knowledge...
Thanks for the pointer to the ad which explains things quite nicely. For
folks who don't have access to the ad, it looks like this:
________________
| |
| |
| |
|______________|
|______|_______|
One of the features mentioned in the ad says, Fits Flush....Modern
Appearance... The newer Vans have a window that is almost flush with
the body surface of the car and almost seems contiguous with it, with
almost no trim ring or moulding around the window. Is that what they are
selling? In others words, how does it look? I find it hard to justify
new windows on my unit just because they slide hard and rattle on bumpy
roads, but maybe there are some things that I did not realize about new
windows.
- --
Regards,
John
74 Glacier
>If you subscribe to the GMCMM magazine, look up the ad for Motorhome
>Enhancements, Inc. The GMC graphic there gives you the architecture of
>the windows and the features are listed in a table in the ad.
I have a further question, but first let me thank you for your first
answer and do my part to help with this body of knowledge...
Thanks for the pointer to the ad which explains things quite nicely. For
folks who don't have access to the ad, it looks like this:
________________
| |
| |
| |
|______________|
|______|_______|
One of the features mentioned in the ad says, Fits Flush....Modern
Appearance... The newer Vans have a window that is almost flush with
the body surface of the car and almost seems contiguous with it, with
almost no trim ring or moulding around the window. Is that what they are
selling? In others words, how does it look? I find it hard to justify
new windows on my unit just because they slide hard and rattle on bumpy
roads, but maybe there are some things that I did not realize about new
windows.
- --
Regards,
John
74 Glacier
