Question on seat install...

shawn bennear

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I picked up a pair of Honda Odessy seats in the pick and pull the other day... 45 bucks for the pair... I want to lost the uncomfortable ones that
came with the palm beach, but, I would like to lower them, and make them move back further. (I'm a bigger guy and need a little breathing room...lol)
I still would like to utilize the regular bases, but I need to go lower.

Being tall, I hate to have to duck to see a traffic light...lol

Any suggestions on how to make it work?

Thanks!
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http://www.gmcmotorhomeworld.com

1977 Palm Beach, 403 V8 w headers.
 
It will require some head scratching. I removed all the Honda track and used 2 pieces of Unistrut to mount to swivel bases. Everything worked out
great, but seating height is slightly higher than stock. That will be better for your legs, but if you have a long torso, your upward vision will be
clipped by the visor. Test first.
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John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
 
Shawn,

That's a TALL order! I have them in the X-Birchaven, mounted on
rectangular steel boxes about 4-1/2"-5" tall, that I installed probably 20
years ago for other after-market seats. Even with those low bases, at 6'2"
they were too high. I finally lowered them by making new track brackets to
recess those into the seats about 1-1/2". Now they're fine. I can't
imagine trying to make them work on OEM bases.

Ken H.

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:59 PM Shawn Bennear via Gmclist <

> I picked up a pair of Honda Odessy seats in the pick and pull the other
> day... 45 bucks for the pair... I want to lost the uncomfortable ones that
> came with the palm beach, but, I would like to lower them, and make them
> move back further. (I'm a bigger guy and need a little breathing room...lol)
> I still would like to utilize the regular bases, but I need to go lower.
>
> Being tall, I hate to have to duck to see a traffic light...lol
>
> Any suggestions on how to make it work?
>
> Thanks!
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> http://www.gmcmotorhomeworld.com
>
> 1977 Palm Beach, 403 V8 w headers.
>
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Sir, instead of mounting the seat sliders on top of the swivel base you can hang them under the base for a few inches of lowering. I haven’t done
it yet, but I’m going to add some spacers and longer bolts to lower another inch or 2 for Cathy.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/honda-seat-lowering/p49389-add-spacers-between-seat-bar-26amp-3b-base.html

> I picked up a pair of Honda Odessy seats in the pick and pull the other day... 45 bucks for the pair... I want to lost the uncomfortable ones that
> came with the palm beach, but, I would like to lower them, and make them move back further. (I'm a bigger guy and need a little breathing
> room...lol) I still would like to utilize the regular bases, but I need to go lower.
>
> Being tall, I hate to have to duck to see a traffic light...lol
>
> Any suggestions on how to make it work?
>
> Thanks!

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C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
 
Oh yeah, that looks much more do-able. I'd forgotten that the slanted top
OEM bases I had were different than most GMC's.

Ken H.

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:46 PM Charles Boyd via Gmclist <

> Sir, instead of mounting the seat sliders on top of the swivel base you
> can hang them under the base for a few inches of lowering. I haven’t done
> it yet, but I’m going to add some spacers and longer bolts to lower
> another inch or 2 for Cathy.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/honda-seat-lowering/p49389-add-spacers-between-seat-bar-26amp-3b-base.html
>
>
>

> > I picked up a pair of Honda Odessy seats in the pick and pull the other
> day... 45 bucks for the pair... I want to lost the uncomfortable ones that
> > came with the palm beach, but, I would like to lower them, and make them
> move back further. (I'm a bigger guy and need a little breathing
> > room...lol) I still would like to utilize the regular bases, but I need
> to go lower.
> >
> > Being tall, I hate to have to duck to see a traffic light...lol
> >
> > Any suggestions on how to make it work?
> >
> > Thanks!
>
> --
> C. Boyd
> 76 Crestmont
> East Tennessee
>
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What Chuck said!! Mounted mine like that to gain about an inch. Then found a Trapazoid mount from a 78' Royale that was stock, another inch lower.
Between the two, Lucy's feet now touch the floor. 8)
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Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
 
Appalachian English? OH..OK.

Appalachian English is a variant of American English native to the Appalachian mountain region of the Eastern United States. Historically, the term
"Appalachian dialect" refers to a local English variety of southern Appalachia, also known as Smoky Mountain English or Southern Mountain English in
the United States,[1] both influential upon and influenced by the Southern U.S. regional dialect, which has become predominant in central and southern
Appalachia today, while a Western Pennsylvania regional dialect has become predominant in northern Appalachia.[2] The 2006 Atlas of North American
English identifies the "Inland South,” a dialect sub-region in which the Southern U.S. dialect's defining vowel shift is the most developed,[3] as
centering squarely in southern Appalachia: namely, the cities of Knoxville and Chattanooga, Tennessee; Birmingham, Alabama; and Asheville, North
Carolina.[4] All Appalachian English is rhotic and characterized by distinct phonology, morphology, syntax, and lexicon. It is mostly oral but its
features are also sometimes represented in literary works.

Extensive research has been conducted since the 1930s to determine the origin of the Appalachian dialect. One popular theory is that the dialect is a
preserved remnant of 16th-century (or "Elizabethan") English in isolation,[5][6] though a far more accurate comparison would be to 18th-century (or
"colonial") English.[7] Regardless, the Appalachian dialect studied within the last century, like most dialects, actually shows a mix of both older
and newer features.[7]

Appalachian English has long been criticized both within and outside of the speaking area as an inferior dialect, which is often mistakenly attributed
to supposed laziness, lack of education, or the region's relative isolation. American writers throughout the 20th century have used the dialect as the
chosen speech of uneducated and unsophisticated characters, though research has largely disproven these stereotypes; however, due to prejudice, the
use of the Appalachian dialect is still often an impediment to educational and social advancement.[8]

Along with these pejorative associations, there has been much debate as to whether Appalachian English is an actual dialect. Many researchers believe
that it is more a part of the Southern dialect region as it shares many components with it. Others believe that it is its own dialect with results
coming from differing lexical variables. Appalachian English does include many similar grammatical components as the Midland dialect.[9]

Oh, and I was surprised when I found that lower trapezoid mount. Got it from a friend that went with a set of Flexsteels that had their own mounts.
It's like someone took that trapezoid and flattened it out by an inch. Just what I needed to make Lucy happy. You know, when moma's happy, everyone's
happy. :d 8)

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Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
 
Touché my friend, but I still need a pic to understand. Are your swivel unlock levers against the wall or on the isle side? I have only seen one
set on the isle side with the offset swivel on isle side and glovebox door on the front. That is Jim Greys (Joe Jackson’s X) 78 Palm Beach.
Hope you and Lucy are well.

> Appalachian English? OH..OK.
>
> Appalachian English is a variant of American English native to the Appalachian mountain region of the Eastern United States. Historically, the
> term "Appalachian dialect" refers to a local English variety of southern Appalachia, also known as Smoky Mountain English or Southern Mountain
> English in the United States,[1] both influential upon and influenced by the Southern U.S. regional dialect, which has become predominant in central
> and southern Appalachia today, while a Western Pennsylvania regional dialect has become predominant in northern Appalachia.[2] The 2006 Atlas of
> North American English identifies the "Inland South,” a dialect sub-region in which the Southern U.S. dialect's defining vowel shift is the most
> developed,[3] as centering squarely in southern Appalachia: namely, the cities of Knoxville and Chattanooga, Tennessee; Birmingham, Alabama; and
> Asheville, North Carolina.[4] All Appalachian English is rhotic and characterized by distinct phonology, morphology, syntax, and lexicon. It is
> mostly oral but its features are also sometimes represented in literary works.
>
> Extensive research has been conducted since the 1930s to determine the origin of the Appalachian dialect. One popular theory is that the dialect
> is a preserved remnant of 16th-century (or "Elizabethan") English in isolation,[5][6] though a far more accurate comparison would be to 18th-century
> (or "colonial") English.[7] Regardless, the Appalachian dialect studied within the last century, like most dialects, actually shows a mix of both
> older and newer features.[7]
>
> Appalachian English has long been criticized both within and outside of the speaking area as an inferior dialect, which is often mistakenly
> attributed to supposed laziness, lack of education, or the region's relative isolation. American writers throughout the 20th century have used the
> dialect as the chosen speech of uneducated and unsophisticated characters, though research has largely disproven these stereotypes; however, due to
> prejudice, the use of the Appalachian dialect is still often an impediment to educational and social advancement.[8]
>
> Along with these pejorative associations, there has been much debate as to whether Appalachian English is an actual dialect. Many researchers
> believe that it is more a part of the Southern dialect region as it shares many components with it. Others believe that it is its own dialect with
> results coming from differing lexical variables. Appalachian English does include many similar grammatical components as the Midland dialect.[9]
>
> Oh, and I was surprised when I found that lower trapezoid mount. Got it from a friend that went with a set of Flexsteels that had their own
> mounts. It's like someone took that trapezoid and flattened it out by an inch. Just what I needed to make Lucy happy. You know, when moma's happy,
> everyone's happy. :d 8)

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C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
 
> Touché my friend, but I still need a pic to understand. Are your swivel unlock levers against the wall or on the isle side? I have only seen
> one set on the isle side with the offset swivel on isle side and glovebox door on the front. That is Jim Greys (Joe Jackson’s X) 78 Palm Beach.
>
> Hope you and Lucy are well.

Hey Chuck,
I'll try to get some pics today of the two mounts. Both mounts have the swivel levers on the wall side with he glovebox door forward.

Thanks Chuck, we are doing well. Hugs to Cathy from us.
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Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
 
> > Touché my friend, but I still need a pic to understand. Are your swivel unlock levers against the wall or on the isle side? I have only
> > seen one set on the isle side with the offset swivel on isle side and glovebox door on the front. That is Jim Greys (Joe Jackson’s X) 78 Palm
> > Beach.
> > Hope you and Lucy are well.
>
> Hey Chuck,
> Lets see what I can do, will have to lift the seats out to make my point, so, I'll try to get some pics today of the two mounts. Both mounts have
> the swivel levers on the wall side with the glovebox door forward.
>
> Thanks Chuck, we are doing well. Hugs to Cathy from us.

Thanks Chuck, we are doing well. Hugs to Cathy from us.[/quote]

So, I just went out to look at the mounts. I see I was mistaken about the trapezoids. They are identical. It is the swivel mount that is different.
The passenger side swivel mounting plate is at 8" from the base of the trapezoid and the drivers side swivel mounting plate is at 10". So, it is the
swivel moot that is flattened out and 2" lower. If you want, I can unbolt the seats, and take them off of the swivel mount. I took pics of the mounts
and posted them to this link.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g7313-cockpit-seats.html
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Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
 
Chuck, I slid the seats al of the way forward and took additional pics of the passenger and driver swivel mounts. If you still want me to take the
seats off of the mount for more pics, I can do that.
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Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
 
> Chuck, I slid the seats all of the way forward and took additional pics of the passenger and driver swivel mounts. If you still want me to take
> the seats off of the mount for more pics, I can do that.

Larry, How did you slice town the passenger side swivel base? and what size unistrut did you use?

Shawn

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http://www.gmcmotorhomeworld.com

1977 Palm Beach, 403 V8 w headers.
 
> > Chuck, I slid the seats all of the way forward and took additional pics of the passenger and driver swivel mounts. If you still want me to
> > take the seats off of the mount for more pics, I can do that.
>
> Larry, How did you slice town the passenger side swivel base? and what size unistrut did you use?
>
> Shawn

Shawn,
I didn't cut it down. It was that way when I got it from a friend. It came out of a 78' Royale when he switched over to a set of Flexsteel seats that
had bases. Odd, because both seat bases (driver and passenger) on my 78 Royale had the taller swivels.
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Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
 
Thanks Larry, I can see what was done which looks like a lot of fabrication on one. No need to remove seats for me.

> > > Chuck, I slid the seats all of the way forward and took additional pics of the passenger and driver swivel mounts. If you still want me to
> > > take the seats off of the mount for more pics, I can do that.
> >
> > Larry, How did you slice town the passenger side swivel base? and what size unistrut did you use?
> >
> > Shawn
>
> Shawn,
> I didn't cut it down. It was that way when I got it from a friend. It came out of a 78' Royale when he switched over to a set of Flexsteel seats
> that had bases. Odd, because both seat bases (driver and passenger) on my 78 Royale had the taller swivels.

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C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
 
Chuck, I'm pretty sure that was not refabricated. It looked dead stock to me when I got it. JWIT
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Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
 
Larry, I certainly wouldn’t argue with you on that. I have heard tales of one off GMCs from the factory. I met a feller that said he worked at
Norris Homes in Bean Station when they were doing the interiors for GMCs. I know that Midas outfitted the Crestmonts there. He swore that a brand
new GMC came thru with a 500 Cadillac engine in it. He got a little upset when I kept asking are you sure and he said I know a Cadillac from an Olds.
Caddy’s have the distributor in the front.

> Chuck, I'm pretty sure that was not refabricated. It looked dead stock to me when I got it. JWIT

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C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee