Problems with Cinnabar Air Tank "Upgrade

[patrick flowers]

One of the first things I did to my coach when I first bought it was
install Cinnabar's "Upgrade Kit" which included a 5 micron filter, check
valve and relief valve. I've had problems with all three. The
polycarbonate bowl of the filter has cracked and the filter media is
apparently breaking down. Particles of the filter media became lodged
in the check valve preventing it from operating properly.

The "last straw" came last night when I noticed that mud wasps had
discovered the little hole in the end of the relief valve. I picked at
the mud and when it would not come free, I disassembled the valve and
found that the wasps had packed the inside of the valve. There was no
way that this valve would operate in the event the pressure switch
failed. This could easily result in failure of an air bag or the tank
itself!

I replaced the filter with one from Grainger and disassembled and
cleaned the check valve as well as the relief valve. I relocated the
filter away from the air tank as the previous location exposed it to
sunlight, which may have caused some of my problems. Lastly, I fashion
a screen to cover the relief valve from a piece of window screen rolled
up with one end flatened and laced shut with a piece of screen wire. I
secured the screen to the valve with a hose clamp.

This last part I'd recommend to anyone using this style relief valve and
travelling where mud wasps are active.

Patrick
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[roger black]

Patrick,
Whur you from, boy? Mud wasps????? Do you mean dirt daubbers? Thought you
wuz a Southern Boy all this time.

Never can tell when them Northerners invade.{:>)

Roger and that's pronounced with 3 or 4 syllables, depending on how many
Buds you've had

 

[wayne newland]

Pat

If you're from Kansas City, MISSOURI, them threr ar MUD DOBBERS. Nasty things.

Wayne

> Patrick,
> Whur you from, boy? Mud wasps????? Do you mean dirt daubbers? Thought you
> wuz a Southern Boy all this time.
>
> Never can tell when them Northerners invade.{:>)
>
> Roger and that's pronounced with 3 or 4 syllables, depending on how many
> Buds you've had

 

[blank]

JR,

It's a 73, but the relief valve was not original equipment. It came with
the Cinnabar upgrade kit and was mounted on the tank. It's a short brass
valve about 1 inch high with an approx. 1/8 inch hole in the top.

Patrick

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jrwheeler7 [mailto:Jrwheeler7]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 10:35 PM
> To: gmcmotorhome
> Subject: Re: GMC: Problems with Cinnabar Air Tank "Upgrade"
>
>
> In a message dated 02/15/2000 10:16:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>
> bought it was
> install Cinnabar's "Upgrade Kit" which included a 5 micron
> filter, check
> valve and relief valve. I've had problems with all three. >>
>
> Patrick,
>
> What model year coach and where was the relief value located
> such that wasps
> or mud dobbers could get to it?
>
> JR Wheeler 78 Royale NC
>

 

[blank]

Roger,

Since we have an international audience here(lotta' folks from above the
Mason/Dixon for you MS bubbas), I tried to use a term that would be more
widely understood.

BTW, where are you from. In my youth, it was "dirt dobbers" and I'm pretty
sure that absolutely no words were pronounced with an "au" in them. i.e.,
my parents sisters were "ants" not "ahnts". )

Patrick

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rblack [mailto:rblack]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 10:45 PM
> To: gmcmotorhome
> Subject: Re: GMC: Problems with Cinnabar Air Tank "Upgrade"
>
>
> Patrick,
> Whur you from, boy? Mud wasps????? Do you mean dirt
> daubbers? Thought you wuz a Southern Boy all this time.
>
> Never can tell when them Northerners invade.{:>)
>
> Roger and that's pronounced with 3 or 4 syllables, depending
> on how many Buds you've had
>

 

[blank]

Wayne,

At least you got the "dobbers" part right. I think they're more
"aggressive" in Georgia than in NC. The Cinnabar air filter had four little
dimples it's top that are probably only 1/16 inch deep and those critters
had packed each one with mud. They had also packed shut the radiator
petcock. Go figure.

Patrick

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Newland [mailto:wayne]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 11:04 PM
> To: gmcmotorhome
> Subject: Re: GMC: Problems with Cinnabar Air Tank "Upgrade"
>
>
> Pat
>
> If you're from Kansas City, MISSOURI, them threr ar MUD
> DOBBERS. Nasty things.
>
> Wayne
>

>
> > Patrick,
> > Whur you from, boy? Mud wasps????? Do you mean dirt
> daubbers? Thought you
> > wuz a Southern Boy all this time.
> >
> > Never can tell when them Northerners invade.{:>)
> >
> > Roger and that's pronounced with 3 or 4 syllables,
> depending on how many
> > Buds you've had
>

 

[roger black]

I know it was "dobbers" but I wuz tryin' to impress 'em wid my colledge
edukashun by usin' daubers. Dem thangs wul pack dat mud anywheres. {:>)

As Justin Wilson, the great chef, wine drinker, sometime comedian, says, I'm
from way up Nawth, 'round Shreveport.

Roger
PS: sure can tell the spell checker came from the Northern
folks.>