Posting photos on the net

Many of us are members of other automotive message forums that may provide
the modern functionality requested. Does anyone have an example that they
would like to share? Something that demonstrates the newer features this
medium lacks?

-Persistent image storage?
-Active administration?
-Topic archival and search capabilities?

FWIW, i'm a longstanding member of a Pinzgauer forum that uses *free *phpBB
as its foundation. phpBB started in 2000, but recent versions integrate
with Tapatalk... allows for wonderful functionality on a cell phone. The
interface should seem familiar. Are you looking for something more advanced
than phpBB?

-Will

> What I find a bit funny is how we praise the GMCNET and the photosite for
> being reliable and permanent places to store our TZE related info.
>
> We then go on to complain about how it can be difficult at times to search
> those places for the info we are looking for.
>
> To make things worse, we have GMCNET, the photo site, Genes list of
> valuable info, etc. These are all strewn across the web in multiple
> different locations, only tied together by links to each others websites.
>
> GMC2000(Fred) is correct. We need a more modern and user friendly place to
> keep this info IN ONE LOCATION.
>
> If that happens, then we will have genuine reason for praise!
>
> Les Burt
> Montreal
> '75 Eleganza 26'
>
>

> >
> > I oftentimes wish for the ability to post photos on the gmcnet. I fully
> > understand why we can't. Bandwidth and cost. I do not participate on the
> > forum, because of the format. Can't find crap. Facebook is more of a
> > chatroom than anything else. Handy for some things, but doesn't lend
> itself
> > well to technical stuff.
> > A GMCer owns the photo site. And the net. That means a whole bunch
> > when it comes to longevity and finding stuff when it is needed.
> > Much non GMC information through the years has evaporated into
> > nothing, never to be found again. That shouldn't happen.
> > What makes this net great and unique is it's permanent nature, quirks
> > and all. Worth a few bucks once in a while to me. But Patrick and Billy
> > both should have someone standing in the wings, as understudies. Sounds
> > like a job for 2000.
> > Jim Hupy
> >
> >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 7:41 AM Rob Mueller

> >>
> >> Jim,
> >>
> >> Well in my opinion if we want the GMC to "live on" after us old fogies
> are
> >> gone GMC2000 is right.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Rob M.
> >> The Pedantic Mechanic
> >> Sydney, Australia
> >> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> >> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> >> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of
> James
> >> Hupy
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 9:36 AM
> >> To: gmclist
> >> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Posting photos on the net
> >>
> >> Let's see, a bunch of old fogies, driving 40+ year old coaches, want a
> >> "modern" internet forum??? What's wrong with this picture?
> >> (Grin) We shouldn't even be buying green bananas.
> >>
> >> Jim Hupy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> GMCnet mailing list
> >> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> >> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > GMCnet mailing list
> > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> > http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>
 
my apologies - http://real4x4forums.com/PinzgauerBBS/index.php

> Many of us are members of other automotive message forums that may provide
> the modern functionality requested. Does anyone have an example that they
> would like to share? Something that demonstrates the newer features this
> medium lacks?
>
> -Persistent image storage?
> -Active administration?
> -Topic archival and search capabilities?
>
> FWIW, i'm a longstanding member of a Pinzgauer forum that uses *free *phpBB
> as its foundation. phpBB started in 2000, but recent versions integrate
> with Tapatalk... allows for wonderful functionality on a cell phone. The
> interface should seem familiar. Are you looking for something more advanced
> than phpBB?
>
> -Will
>
>
>
>

>
>> What I find a bit funny is how we praise the GMCNET and the photosite for
>> being reliable and permanent places to store our TZE related info.
>>
>> We then go on to complain about how it can be difficult at times to
>> search those places for the info we are looking for.
>>
>> To make things worse, we have GMCNET, the photo site, Genes list of
>> valuable info, etc. These are all strewn across the web in multiple
>> different locations, only tied together by links to each others websites.
>>
>> GMC2000(Fred) is correct. We need a more modern and user friendly place
>> to keep this info IN ONE LOCATION.
>>
>> If that happens, then we will have genuine reason for praise!
>>
>> Les Burt
>> Montreal
>> '75 Eleganza 26'
>>
>>

>> >
>> > I oftentimes wish for the ability to post photos on the gmcnet. I fully
>> > understand why we can't. Bandwidth and cost. I do not participate on the
>> > forum, because of the format. Can't find crap. Facebook is more of a
>> > chatroom than anything else. Handy for some things, but doesn't lend
>> itself
>> > well to technical stuff.
>> > A GMCer owns the photo site. And the net. That means a whole bunch
>> > when it comes to longevity and finding stuff when it is needed.
>> > Much non GMC information through the years has evaporated into
>> > nothing, never to be found again. That shouldn't happen.
>> > What makes this net great and unique is it's permanent nature,
>> quirks
>> > and all. Worth a few bucks once in a while to me. But Patrick and Billy
>> > both should have someone standing in the wings, as understudies. Sounds
>> > like a job for 2000.
>> > Jim Hupy
>> >
>> >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 7:41 AM Rob Mueller

>> >>
>> >> Jim,
>> >>
>> >> Well in my opinion if we want the GMC to "live on" after us old fogies
>> are
>> >> gone GMC2000 is right.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Rob M.
>> >> The Pedantic Mechanic
>> >> Sydney, Australia
>> >> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>> >> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>> >> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of
>> James
>> >> Hupy
>> >> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 9:36 AM
>> >> To: gmclist
>> >> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Posting photos on the net
>> >>
>> >> Let's see, a bunch of old fogies, driving 40+ year old coaches, want a
>> >> "modern" internet forum??? What's wrong with this picture?
>> >> (Grin) We shouldn't even be buying green bananas.
>> >>
>> >> Jim Hupy
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> GMCnet mailing list
>> >> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>> >> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>> >>
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > GMCnet mailing list
>> > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>> > http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>
>
 
English, Will...English please ! lol

> my apologies - http://real4x4forums.com/PinzgauerBBS/index.php
>
>
>

>
> > Many of us are members of other automotive message forums that may
> provide
> > the modern functionality requested. Does anyone have an example that they
> > would like to share? Something that demonstrates the newer features this
> > medium lacks?
> >
> > -Persistent image storage?
> > -Active administration?
> > -Topic archival and search capabilities?
> >
> > FWIW, i'm a longstanding member of a Pinzgauer forum that uses *free
> *phpBB
> > as its foundation. phpBB started in 2000, but recent versions integrate
> > with Tapatalk... allows for wonderful functionality on a cell phone. The
> > interface should seem familiar. Are you looking for something more
> advanced
> > than phpBB?
> >
> > -Will
> >
> >
> >
> >

> >
> >> What I find a bit funny is how we praise the GMCNET and the photosite
> for
> >> being reliable and permanent places to store our TZE related info.
> >>
> >> We then go on to complain about how it can be difficult at times to
> >> search those places for the info we are looking for.
> >>
> >> To make things worse, we have GMCNET, the photo site, Genes list of
> >> valuable info, etc. These are all strewn across the web in multiple
> >> different locations, only tied together by links to each others
> websites.
> >>
> >> GMC2000(Fred) is correct. We need a more modern and user friendly place
> >> to keep this info IN ONE LOCATION.
> >>
> >> If that happens, then we will have genuine reason for praise!
> >>
> >> Les Burt
> >> Montreal
> >> '75 Eleganza 26'
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Jul 12, 2018, at 11:01 AM, James Hupy

> >> >
> >> > I oftentimes wish for the ability to post photos on the gmcnet. I
> fully
> >> > understand why we can't. Bandwidth and cost. I do not participate on
> the
> >> > forum, because of the format. Can't find crap. Facebook is more of a
> >> > chatroom than anything else. Handy for some things, but doesn't lend
> >> itself
> >> > well to technical stuff.
> >> > A GMCer owns the photo site. And the net. That means a whole bunch
> >> > when it comes to longevity and finding stuff when it is needed.
> >> > Much non GMC information through the years has evaporated into
> >> > nothing, never to be found again. That shouldn't happen.
> >> > What makes this net great and unique is it's permanent nature,
> >> quirks
> >> > and all. Worth a few bucks once in a while to me. But Patrick and
> Billy
> >> > both should have someone standing in the wings, as understudies.
> Sounds
> >> > like a job for 2000.
> >> > Jim Hupy
> >> >
> >> >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 7:41 AM Rob Mueller

> >> >>
> >> >> Jim,
> >> >>
> >> >> Well in my opinion if we want the GMC to "live on" after us old
> fogies
> >> are
> >> >> gone GMC2000 is right.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> Rob M.
> >> >> The Pedantic Mechanic
> >> >> Sydney, Australia
> >> >> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> >> >> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> >> >> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf Of
> >> James
> >> >> Hupy
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 9:36 AM
> >> >> To: gmclist
> >> >> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Posting photos on the net
> >> >>
> >> >> Let's see, a bunch of old fogies, driving 40+ year old coaches, want
> a
> >> >> "modern" internet forum??? What's wrong with this picture?
> >> >> (Grin) We shouldn't even be buying green bananas.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jim Hupy
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> GMCnet mailing list
> >> >> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> >> >> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
> >> >>
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > GMCnet mailing list
> >> > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> >> > http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> GMCnet mailing list
> >> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> >> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
> >>
> >
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>

--
Michael Beaton
1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS

Life is too short to hold a grudge; slash some tires and call it even !
 
Les

Having all those sites you mention on one site may sound good to you but it is never going to happen.

First there are several individuals putting time into collecting information and maintaining their site. Would you expect that they would all continue to do this if it’s on someone else’s site?

Also, what happens if the site goes down as often happens on the Internet? That would mean that all information is cut off. With it on more than one site much would still be available even if one source goes down for a while.

Also, this could get expensive and also require a lot of knowledge of one person to maintain it all. It could take several hours of time a week for someone to do it on a volunteer basis. Much more than the individuals managing separate sites do now.

The present set of systems is working well. It might have some quirks and imperfections but so would a new system that might take months or years to develop

As someone said before “are you volunteering to do it?” If so, you’d better start soon if you want it done in your remaining lifetime and don’t plan on doing much else with your spare time.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
>>

>>>
>>> What I find a bit funny is how we praise the GMCNET and the photosite for
>>> being reliable and permanent places to store our TZE related info.
>>>
>>> We then go on to complain about how it can be difficult at times to
>>> search those places for the info we are looking for.
>>>
>>> To make things worse, we have GMCNET, the photo site, Genes list of
>>> valuable info, etc. These are all strewn across the web in multiple
>>> different locations, only tied together by links to each others websites.
>>>
>>> GMC2000(Fred) is correct. We need a more modern and user friendly place
>>> to keep this info IN ONE LOCATION.
>>>
>>> If that happens, then we will have genuine reason for praise!
>>>
>>> Les Burt
>>> Montreal
>>> '75 Eleganza 26'
>>>>
 
ha! OK, lets see how i can do this....

There are costs to host a website (blank slate), and costs for the storage
and software used on that site (what you see when you go to a website).
phpBB is the forum software that runs on
http://real4x4forums.com/PinzgauerBBS/index.php. Its the look and feel and
functionality... Post, add pictures, search, register, etc.

Its free to use. I'm curious if that is the type of forum that folks have
in mind when they say something "more modern". If not, could someone show
the site that they consider more modern? I can give an idea of cost

On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 12:09 PM Kingsley Coach
wrote:

> English, Will...English please ! lol
>

>
> > my apologies - http://real4x4forums.com/PinzgauerBBS/index.php
> >
> >
> >

> >
> > > Many of us are members of other automotive message forums that may
> > provide
> > > the modern functionality requested. Does anyone have an example that
> they
> > > would like to share? Something that demonstrates the newer features
> this
> > > medium lacks?
> > >
> > > -Persistent image storage?
> > > -Active administration?
> > > -Topic archival and search capabilities?
> > >
> > > FWIW, i'm a longstanding member of a Pinzgauer forum that uses *free
> > *phpBB
> > > as its foundation. phpBB started in 2000, but recent versions integrate
> > > with Tapatalk... allows for wonderful functionality on a cell phone.
> The
> > > interface should seem familiar. Are you looking for something more
> > advanced
> > > than phpBB?
> > >
> > > -Will
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > >
> > >> What I find a bit funny is how we praise the GMCNET and the photosite
> > for
> > >> being reliable and permanent places to store our TZE related info.
> > >>
> > >> We then go on to complain about how it can be difficult at times to
> > >> search those places for the info we are looking for.
> > >>
> > >> To make things worse, we have GMCNET, the photo site, Genes list of
> > >> valuable info, etc. These are all strewn across the web in multiple
> > >> different locations, only tied together by links to each others
> > websites.
> > >>
> > >> GMC2000(Fred) is correct. We need a more modern and user friendly
> place
> > >> to keep this info IN ONE LOCATION.
> > >>
> > >> If that happens, then we will have genuine reason for praise!
> > >>
> > >> Les Burt
> > >> Montreal
> > >> '75 Eleganza 26'
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > On Jul 12, 2018, at 11:01 AM, James Hupy

> > >> >
> > >> > I oftentimes wish for the ability to post photos on the gmcnet. I
> > fully
> > >> > understand why we can't. Bandwidth and cost. I do not participate on
> > the
> > >> > forum, because of the format. Can't find crap. Facebook is more of a
> > >> > chatroom than anything else. Handy for some things, but doesn't lend
> > >> itself
> > >> > well to technical stuff.
> > >> > A GMCer owns the photo site. And the net. That means a whole
> bunch
> > >> > when it comes to longevity and finding stuff when it is needed.
> > >> > Much non GMC information through the years has evaporated into
> > >> > nothing, never to be found again. That shouldn't happen.
> > >> > What makes this net great and unique is it's permanent nature,
> > >> quirks
> > >> > and all. Worth a few bucks once in a while to me. But Patrick and
> > Billy
> > >> > both should have someone standing in the wings, as understudies.
> > Sounds
> > >> > like a job for 2000.
> > >> > Jim Hupy
> > >> >
> > >> >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 7:41 AM Rob Mueller >

> > >> >>
> > >> >> Jim,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Well in my opinion if we want the GMC to "live on" after us old
> > fogies
> > >> are
> > >> >> gone GMC2000 is right.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Regards,
> > >> >> Rob M.
> > >> >> The Pedantic Mechanic
> > >> >> Sydney, Australia
> > >> >> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> > >> >> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> > >> >> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf
> Of
> > >> James
> > >> >> Hupy
> > >> >> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 9:36 AM
> > >> >> To: gmclist
> > >> >> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Posting photos on the net
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Let's see, a bunch of old fogies, driving 40+ year old coaches,
> want
> > a
> > >> >> "modern" internet forum??? What's wrong with this picture?
> > >> >> (Grin) We shouldn't even be buying green bananas.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Jim Hupy
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> _______________________________________________
> > >> >> GMCnet mailing list
> > >> >> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> > >> >> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
> > >> >>
> > >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> > GMCnet mailing list
> > >> > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> > >> > http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> GMCnet mailing list
> > >> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> > >> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
> > >>
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GMCnet mailing list
> > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> > http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Michael Beaton
> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> Antigonish, NS
>
> Life is too short to hold a grudge; slash some tires and call it even !
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>
 
Will - I believe that is the format 2k had in mind based on his examples. I belong to multiple forums and like the bbs format. Starting one for the
GMC community would be difficult if not impossible. You have the problem of archiving info from many sources if the authors agree as stated in other
posts.
Now the "physical" part.
First the bbs software is free but you have other costs involved; i.e. hosting (even unlimited storage is not unlimited), bandwidth, SECURITY, gallery
software...etc.) You know the drill. All cost dollars. It would be a full time job and at 72 I'm not interested. I host private websites and have cut
back to only enough to pay for my sites. I no longer do webdesign. Hell, I haven't even kept up with updating my sites and pretty much use them for
image storage and email addresses. My own personal cloud.

Bottom line, I've adjusted to this format and can live with its quirks. But, if another format should appear I'll adjust. I prefer working on and
using my GMC rather than sitting at a desk and getting fat(ter).
--
Patti & Jerry Burt
73 Gmc 26' Canyon Lands -
77 Palm Beach
Members: FMCA - GMCMI - GMCWS
 
Thanks Will.
I took a glance to see where you lived so I might sign up for a night class
but alas, the cupboard was bare. lol
It's probably listed on the forum, but I can barely navigate e-mail.
Mike in NS

> ha! OK, lets see how i can do this....
>
> There are costs to host a website (blank slate), and costs for the storage
> and software used on that site (what you see when you go to a website).
> phpBB is the forum software that runs on
> http://real4x4forums.com/PinzgauerBBS/index.php. Its the look and feel and
> functionality... Post, add pictures, search, register, etc.
>
> Its free to use. I'm curious if that is the type of forum that folks have
> in mind when they say something "more modern". If not, could someone show
> the site that they consider more modern? I can give an idea of cost
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 12:09 PM Kingsley Coach

>
> > English, Will...English please ! lol
> >

> >
> > > my apologies - http://real4x4forums.com/PinzgauerBBS/index.php
> > >
> > >
> > >

> > >
> > > > Many of us are members of other automotive message forums that may
> > > provide
> > > > the modern functionality requested. Does anyone have an example that
> > they
> > > > would like to share? Something that demonstrates the newer features
> > this
> > > > medium lacks?
> > > >
> > > > -Persistent image storage?
> > > > -Active administration?
> > > > -Topic archival and search capabilities?
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, i'm a longstanding member of a Pinzgauer forum that uses *free
> > > *phpBB
> > > > as its foundation. phpBB started in 2000, but recent versions
> integrate
> > > > with Tapatalk... allows for wonderful functionality on a cell phone.
> > The
> > > > interface should seem familiar. Are you looking for something more
> > > advanced
> > > > than phpBB?
> > > >
> > > > -Will
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

> > > >
> > > >> What I find a bit funny is how we praise the GMCNET and the
> photosite
> > > for
> > > >> being reliable and permanent places to store our TZE related info.
> > > >>
> > > >> We then go on to complain about how it can be difficult at times to
> > > >> search those places for the info we are looking for.
> > > >>
> > > >> To make things worse, we have GMCNET, the photo site, Genes list of
> > > >> valuable info, etc. These are all strewn across the web in multiple
> > > >> different locations, only tied together by links to each others
> > > websites.
> > > >>
> > > >> GMC2000(Fred) is correct. We need a more modern and user friendly
> > place
> > > >> to keep this info IN ONE LOCATION.
> > > >>
> > > >> If that happens, then we will have genuine reason for praise!
> > > >>
> > > >> Les Burt
> > > >> Montreal
> > > >> '75 Eleganza 26'
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > On Jul 12, 2018, at 11:01 AM, James Hupy

> > > >> >
> > > >> > I oftentimes wish for the ability to post photos on the gmcnet. I
> > > fully
> > > >> > understand why we can't. Bandwidth and cost. I do not participate
> on
> > > the
> > > >> > forum, because of the format. Can't find crap. Facebook is more
> of a
> > > >> > chatroom than anything else. Handy for some things, but doesn't
> lend
> > > >> itself
> > > >> > well to technical stuff.
> > > >> > A GMCer owns the photo site. And the net. That means a whole
> > bunch
> > > >> > when it comes to longevity and finding stuff when it is needed.
> > > >> > Much non GMC information through the years has evaporated into
> > > >> > nothing, never to be found again. That shouldn't happen.
> > > >> > What makes this net great and unique is it's permanent nature,
> > > >> quirks
> > > >> > and all. Worth a few bucks once in a while to me. But Patrick and
> > > Billy
> > > >> > both should have someone standing in the wings, as understudies.
> > > Sounds
> > > >> > like a job for 2000.
> > > >> > Jim Hupy
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 7:41 AM Rob Mueller <
> robmueller
> > >

> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Jim,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Well in my opinion if we want the GMC to "live on" after us old
> > > fogies
> > > >> are
> > > >> >> gone GMC2000 is right.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Regards,
> > > >> >> Rob M.
> > > >> >> The Pedantic Mechanic
> > > >> >> Sydney, Australia
> > > >> >> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> > > >> >> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> > > >> >> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> >> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces] On Behalf
> > Of
> > > >> James
> > > >> >> Hupy
> > > >> >> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 9:36 AM
> > > >> >> To: gmclist
> > > >> >> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Posting photos on the net
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Let's see, a bunch of old fogies, driving 40+ year old coaches,
> > want
> > > a
> > > >> >> "modern" internet forum??? What's wrong with this picture?
> > > >> >> (Grin) We shouldn't even be buying green bananas.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Jim Hupy
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
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> > Michael Beaton
> > 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> > 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> > Antigonish, NS
> >
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1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS

Life is too short to hold a grudge; slash some tires and call it even !
 
I loved Jim's comment on green bananas...

I'll offer some attributes of any new system for GMC technical discussion and info retrieval.

- Accessible via email (mail list)
--- When bandwidth or company security issues issues prevent use of the full forum. Bandwidth is in short supply on the road or in campgrounds when
help with problems is most needed.
--- When users aren't comfortable with a web-based forum (Especially those with the most experience)

- Incorporates all existing GMCNet posts.

- Supports sub-forums and images

- Incorporates all existing Photo Site photos.

- Converts Photo Site links in posts to Photo Site images

- Converts embedded photos in posts to links for email users.

- Converts GMCMH EFI Google group to a Sub-Forum

- Each sub-forum has a Sticky with links to additional GMC info.

- Curated and moderated by subject matter experts.

- Vendor independent.

- No targeted advertising, no harvesting of user data.

- Owned and managed by an institution supported by GMC owner dues (and that can finish up their green bananas).

As an aside, I helped convert and now manage the website and write PHP programs for a car enthusiast site. In the process, we converted (with a
developer's help) a VBulletin forum to one compatible with our new site, including migrating all photos, sub-forums, etc.

The software (FUDforum) currently supporting the GMCNET site is free, open source, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FUDforum A developer
familiar with FUDforum software, CSS, HTML, MySQL, and PHP could integrate most or all of the items above, I believe. Whatever organization takes this
on would need to step up to the issues involved with the curatorial and website management functions of this approach.
--
Bill Van Vlack
'76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid
November 2015.
 
Jerry, Bill - Ohh, I'll agree. This is a massive task! I'm happy to see
that we have strong tech minded folks on the roster!

Beyond the conversion to a "modern" site - is anyone archiving content
someplace? Does Billy send his massive collection to anyone for just in
case scenarios?

-Will
(Detroit Michigan)

On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 1:35 PM Bill Van Vlack
wrote:

> I loved Jim's comment on green bananas...
>
> I'll offer some attributes of any new system for GMC technical discussion
> and info retrieval.
>
> - Accessible via email (mail list)
> --- When bandwidth or company security issues issues prevent use of the
> full forum. Bandwidth is in short supply on the road or in campgrounds when
> help with problems is most needed.
> --- When users aren't comfortable with a web-based forum (Especially
> those with the most experience)
>
> - Incorporates all existing GMCNet posts.
>
> - Supports sub-forums and images
>
> - Incorporates all existing Photo Site photos.
>
> - Converts Photo Site links in posts to Photo Site images
>
> - Converts embedded photos in posts to links for email users.
>
> - Converts GMCMH EFI Google group to a Sub-Forum
>
> - Each sub-forum has a Sticky with links to additional GMC info.
>
> - Curated and moderated by subject matter experts.
>
> - Vendor independent.
>
> - No targeted advertising, no harvesting of user data.
>
> - Owned and managed by an institution supported by GMC owner dues (and
> that can finish up their green bananas).
>
> As an aside, I helped convert and now manage the website and write PHP
> programs for a car enthusiast site. In the process, we converted (with a
> developer's help) a VBulletin forum to one compatible with our new site,
> including migrating all photos, sub-forums, etc.
>
> The software (FUDforum) currently supporting the GMCNET site is free, open
> source, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FUDforum A developer
> familiar with FUDforum software, CSS, HTML, MySQL, and PHP could integrate
> most or all of the items above, I believe. Whatever organization takes this
> on would need to step up to the issues involved with the curatorial and
> website management functions of this approach.
> --
> Bill Van Vlack
> '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath,
> Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o
> mid
> November 2015.
>
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>
 
For the record, I don’t have any issues with continuing to use the GMCNET as it is now. I’ve gotten used to it’s quirks and am confortable with how it works.

We do need to realize that to survive for the long term will require accommodating the newer TZE owners. We have previously commented here numerous times about the newer/younger crowd and how they expect/demand that online info be easily obtained. They are the future TZE owners and if we don’t figure out how to attract them to the GMCNET, then we will just dwindle away and die due to lack of caring.

Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'

>
> Jerry, Bill - Ohh, I'll agree. This is a massive task! I'm happy to see
> that we have strong tech minded folks on the roster!
>
> Beyond the conversion to a "modern" site - is anyone archiving content
> someplace? Does Billy send his massive collection to anyone for just in
> case scenarios?
>
> -Will
> (Detroit Michigan)
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 1:35 PM Bill Van Vlack

>
>> I loved Jim's comment on green bananas...
>>
>> I'll offer some attributes of any new system for GMC technical discussion
>> and info retrieval.
>>
>> - Accessible via email (mail list)
>> --- When bandwidth or company security issues issues prevent use of the
>> full forum. Bandwidth is in short supply on the road or in campgrounds when
>> help with problems is most needed.
>> --- When users aren't comfortable with a web-based forum (Especially
>> those with the most experience)
>>
>> - Incorporates all existing GMCNet posts.
>>
>> - Supports sub-forums and images
>>
>> - Incorporates all existing Photo Site photos.
>>
>> - Converts Photo Site links in posts to Photo Site images
>>
>> - Converts embedded photos in posts to links for email users.
>>
>> - Converts GMCMH EFI Google group to a Sub-Forum
>>
>> - Each sub-forum has a Sticky with links to additional GMC info.
>>
>> - Curated and moderated by subject matter experts.
>>
>> - Vendor independent.
>>
>> - No targeted advertising, no harvesting of user data.
>>
>> - Owned and managed by an institution supported by GMC owner dues (and
>> that can finish up their green bananas).
>>
>> As an aside, I helped convert and now manage the website and write PHP
>> programs for a car enthusiast site. In the process, we converted (with a
>> developer's help) a VBulletin forum to one compatible with our new site,
>> including migrating all photos, sub-forums, etc.
>>
>> The software (FUDforum) currently supporting the GMCNET site is free, open
>> source, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FUDforum A developer
>> familiar with FUDforum software, CSS, HTML, MySQL, and PHP could integrate
>> most or all of the items above, I believe. Whatever organization takes this
>> on would need to step up to the issues involved with the curatorial and
>> website management functions of this approach.
>> --
>> Bill Van Vlack
>> '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath,
>> Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o
>> mid
>> November 2015.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>
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Quote:
> GMC2000said..... yep, and its more than location that is needed though, its an everlasting foundation behind it but Im starting to see how tricky
> that is with the way the GMCs are under the FMCA umbrella as another poster put it.

GMCMI is the obvious organization. Best way for you to get involved is buy a coach, join a local club (local clubs are GMCMI members), do some
repairs, attend some national (GMCMI) rallys, let folks get to know you, and convince them of your vision.
--
Bill Van Vlack
'76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid
November 2015.
 
Bill - a little correction here. Local GMC clubs are not members of GMCMI. All GMC clubs are members of FMCA. Many members of other GMC clubs are also members of GMCMI but their individual clubs are not.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

>
> Quote:
>> GMC2000said..... yep, and its more than location that is needed though, its an everlasting foundation behind it but Im starting to see how tricky
>> that is with the way the GMCs are under the FMCA umbrella as another poster put it.
>
>
> GMCMI is the obvious organization. Best way for you to get involved is buy a coach, join a local club (local clubs are GMCMI members), do some
> repairs, attend some national (GMCMI) rallys, let folks get to know you, and convince them of your vision.
> --
> Bill Van Vlack
> '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid
> November 2015.
>
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Thanks, Emery (Delbert, Jerry).

In any event, it seems like GMCMI is the only non-commercial organization whose scope includes just the GMC Motorhome.

Quote:
> GMC Motorhomes International is an organization dedicated to promoting the legacy, enjoyment and use of GMC Motorhomes Our goal is to provide
> fellowship and technical information through continuous improvement of communications & conventions.

I think I'd add 'preservation' to that list if the spirit of this forum were incorporated.

--
Bill Van Vlack
'76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid
November 2015.
 
> Thanks, Emery (Delbert, Jerry), for the clarification.
>
> In any event, it seems like GMCMI is the only non-commercial organization whose scope includes just the GMC Motorhome.

Actually there are 10 to 15 GMC only clubs including GMCMI. I can not remember all of them. I would supply a list them but I know I would miss 1/3
of them. I personally belong to 4 of them plus FMCA.
--
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
Looks like 20 GMC chapters since the Golden Gate bunch has gone away and the
GMC Flat Landers (around Kansas City) do not have a web site.

http://www.bdub.net/GMCLinks.html

I belong to each and every one of them as well as FMCA because they all
support me.

Well worth it.
bdub

-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist On Behalf Of Ken Burton
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 1:36 PM

Actually there are 10 to 15 GMC only clubs including GMCMI. I can not
remember all of them. I would supply a list them but I know I would miss
1/3
of them. I personally belong to 4 of them plus FMCA.
 
The GMC Flatlanders are still around, but as of last year they were dropped
as a member of FMCA due to falling below the 15 FMCA member requirement.
They are considering a mini-rally to correspond with the Route 66 Festival
in Springfield, Missouri in mid-August. They also are getting together at
the Fall 2016 GMCMI Convention in Amana, Iowa. Please do consider becoming
a member of the GMC Flatlanders by contacting Fred Dugger. Their area
consist of Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Nebraska, Iowa, and
Colorado.

Kimberlea Weeks | GMC Motorhomes International

1402 So. Cage Blvd., Unit 273 | Pharr, TX 78577-6288

612.501.4600 | f.866.519.0047 | www.gmcmi.com

*Thank you for being a member and supporting the GMC Motorhome lifestyle.*

*Kimberlea Weeks | GMC Motorhomes International *
1402 So. Cage Blvd., Unit 273 | Pharr, TX 78577-6288
612.501.4600 | f.866.519.0047 | www.gmcmi.com

*We invite you to join us!*

*2018 GMCMI Fall Convention – "Christmas in September"*
September 21-27 | Amana RV Park & Event Center, Amana, IA

*2019 GMCMI Spring Convention – "Tallahassee Treasures"*
March 22-28 | North Florida Fairgrounds, Tallahassee, FL

> Looks like 20 GMC chapters since the Golden Gate bunch has gone away and
> the
> GMC Flat Landers (around Kansas City) do not have a web site.
>
> http://www.bdub.net/GMCLinks.html
>
> I belong to each and every one of them as well as FMCA because they all
> support me.
>
> Well worth it.
> bdub
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist On Behalf Of Ken Burton
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 1:36 PM
>
> Actually there are 10 to 15 GMC only clubs including GMCMI. I can not
> remember all of them. I would supply a list them but I know I would miss
> 1/3
> of them. I personally belong to 4 of them plus FMCA.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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>
 
Sorry for the long sig line. Thought I had deleted it, but someone it
appeared.

Kimberlea Weeks | GMC Motorhomes International
1402 So. Cage Blvd., Unit 273 | Pharr, TX 78577-6288
612.501.4600 | f.866.519.0047 | www.gmcmi.com

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Kimberlea Weeks
wrote:

> The GMC Flatlanders are still around, but as of last year they were
> dropped as a member of FMCA due to falling below the 15 FMCA member
> requirement. They are considering a mini-rally to correspond with the Route
> 66 Festival in Springfield, Missouri in mid-August. They also are getting
> together at the Fall 2016 GMCMI Convention in Amana, Iowa. Please do
> consider becoming a member of the GMC Flatlanders by contacting Fred
> Dugger. Their area consist of Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Arkansas,
> Nebraska, Iowa, and Colorado.
>
>
>
> Kimberlea Weeks | GMC Motorhomes International
>
> 1402 So. Cage Blvd., Unit 273 | Pharr, TX 78577-6288
>
> 612.501.4600 | f.866.519.0047 | www.gmcmi.com
>
>
> *Thank you for being a member and supporting the GMC Motorhome lifestyle.*
>
> *Kimberlea Weeks | GMC Motorhomes International *
> 1402 So. Cage Blvd., Unit 273 | Pharr, TX 78577-6288
> 612.501.4600 | f.866.519.0047 | www.gmcmi.com
>
> *We invite you to join us!*
>
> *2018 GMCMI Fall Convention – "Christmas in September"*
> September 21-27 | Amana RV Park & Event Center, Amana, IA
>
> *2019 GMCMI Spring Convention – "Tallahassee Treasures"*
> March 22-28 | North Florida Fairgrounds, Tallahassee, FL
>

>
>> Looks like 20 GMC chapters since the Golden Gate bunch has gone away and
>> the
>> GMC Flat Landers (around Kansas City) do not have a web site.
>>
>> http://www.bdub.net/GMCLinks.html
>>
>> I belong to each and every one of them as well as FMCA because they all
>> support me.
>>
>> Well worth it.
>> bdub
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gmclist On Behalf Of Ken Burton
>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 1:36 PM
>>
>> Actually there are 10 to 15 GMC only clubs including GMCMI. I can not
>> remember all of them. I would supply a list them but I know I would miss
>> 1/3
>> of them. I personally belong to 4 of them plus FMCA.
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>
>
>
 
I'm aware that there are regional clubs, and they are vital to the enjoyment of our coaches. I belong to a great one. But support for this kind of
project has to come from an International GMC Motorhome organization for it to outlive all of us here, I think.
--
Bill Van Vlack
'76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid
November 2015.
 
> Quote:
> > GMC2000said..... yep, and its more than location that is needed though, its an everlasting foundation behind it but Im starting to see how
> > tricky that is with the way the GMCs are under the FMCA umbrella as another poster put it.
>
>
> GMCMI is the obvious organization. Best way for you to get involved is buy a coach, join a local club (local clubs are GMCMI members), do some
> repairs, attend some national (GMCMI) rallys, let folks get to know you, and convince them of your vision.

I thought so too at first but not sure about that now. (obvious organization) I have no idea if they all play well together or the politics of that.
be nice to avoid getting wrapped up in that part somehow. but again though, do you think running a forum would be a full time job? I wouldnt have
asked you if you hadnt expressed you familiarity with it here.

I ask lots of questions.. I figure there is no harm in that (never hurts to ask, right?)
but I dont know or have any control of what others figure of them but sometimes folks aint all that helpful for whatever reason. Im just asking thats
all.
 
Quote:
> do you think running a forum would be a full time job

Once it's running, no. But when something needs taken care of, it has to be done immediately.

--
Bill Van Vlack
'76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid
November 2015.