Pork chop

If you were able to raise the front, even a small amount, you will be ahead
of the game when you get the longer bolts. All the slop is now taken up,
and the longer bolts will show results right away. Hang in, it is a steep
learning curve, but not one you are likely to forget anytime soon.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 2:31 PM Bruce Hart via Gmclist <

> Forgot to add that I did not index the pork chop. Wanted to get complete
> data before changing anything.
>

>
> > Removed pork chops cleaned up torsion bar and chops. Reinstalled and
> > adjusted screws to max. Set the ride height on the rear.
> > Front ride height was out 1/2" low on both sides. Took a test drive on
> > I-25 for twenty minutes. Checked ride height on rear and it was correct.
> > Ride height on front is low by 1" on both sides. Waiting for the longer
> > torsion bolts to see if I can get the ride height to correct dim.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 12:04 PM Larry via Gmclist <

> >

> >> > BAD idea!
> >> >
> >> > The torsion bars are pre-stressed during manufacture. There's a limit
> >> to
> >> > the amount of stress a body can withstand without "yielding", or
> taking
> >> a
> >> > permanent set. After the yield point, the strength of the body is
> >> GREATLY
> >> > reduced. To allow a greater range of movement (stress) possible
> without
> >> > reaching the yield (and loss of strength) point, the bar is "pre-bent"
> >> in
> >> > the opposite direction of the expected load. That's why the bars have
> >> the
> >> > L and R marking -- to be sure they'll ONLY be located correctly.
> >> Reversing
> >> > the location would greatly increase the probability of the bar taking
> >> > additional set -- or worse.
> >> >
> >> > Ken H.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:08 PM Larry via Gmclist

> >> >
> >> > > What would happen if you swapped bars from left to right side of
> >> coach?
> >> > > Twisting in the other direction....Good or bad idea?
> >> > > --
> >> > > Larry
> >> > > 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
> >> > > Menomonie, WI.
> >> > >
> >>
> >> Thanks Ken,
> >> I don't have the problem, but if I did I always wondered if I could do
> >> that....now I know. :)
> >> --
> >> Larry
> >> 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
> >> Menomonie, WI.
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> > 1976 Palm Beach
> > Milliken, Co
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> >
> >
>
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That was the next item Jim K. suggested when I called and talked to him.
I need 1 1/8 " on the left side and 1" on the right side to be in spec.

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 10:27 AM Russell Keith via Gmclist <

> Bruce,
> Would the adjustable pork chop help with your situation?
>
> http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1118
>
> Russell
> --
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> 1978 E2 "Harry" 403 (still carbureted), Danny Dunn Tranny, Thorley, Stock
> Brakes w/Remote Vacuum Brake Booster, Quad Bags, Dakota Digital Dash, 6.5 kW
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Bruce,
You didn’t indicate in your follow-up whether you had verified the torsion bar sockets in the LCAs for expansion/cracks/blowout.

I’d hate to see you throw $$ at the wrong parts.

Confirming the LCA condition helps with further diagnosis as well as helping the next guy who digs for answers when they have a similar issue in the future.

Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'

>
> That was the next item Jim K. suggested when I called and talked to him.
> I need 1 1/8 " on the left side and 1" on the right side to be in spec.
>
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 10:27 AM Russell Keith via Gmclist <

>>
>> Bruce,
>> Would the adjustable pork chop help with your situation?
>>
>> http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1118
>>
>> Russell
>> --
>> Russell Keith,
>> 1978 E2 "Harry" 403 (still carbureted), Danny Dunn Tranny, Thorley, Stock
>> Brakes w/Remote Vacuum Brake Booster, Quad Bags, Dakota Digital Dash, 6.5 kW
>> Onan, Dunedin, Florida
>>
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Sir, 6 turns = ~1" raise.

> That was the next item Jim K. suggested when I called and talked to him.
> I need 1 1/8 " on the left side and 1" on the right side to be in spec.
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 10:27 AM Russell Keith via Gmclist <

>
> > Bruce,
> > Would the adjustable pork chop help with your situation?
> >
> > http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1118
> >
> > Russell
> > --
> > Russell Keith,
> > 1978 E2 "Harry" 403 (still carbureted), Danny Dunn Tranny, Thorley, Stock
> > Brakes w/Remote Vacuum Brake Booster, Quad Bags, Dakota Digital Dash, 6.5 kW
> > Onan, Dunedin, Florida
> >
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>
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76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
 
Not an exact result. The threads on the adjustment bolt add up to that, but
the old bugaboo "stiction" rears its ugly head. But, it's a good place to
start.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 7:20 PM Charles Boyd via Gmclist <

> Sir, 6 turns = ~1" raise.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> > That was the next item Jim K. suggested when I called and talked to him.
> > I need 1 1/8 " on the left side and 1" on the right side to be in spec.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 10:27 AM Russell Keith via Gmclist <

> >
> > > Bruce,
> > > Would the adjustable pork chop help with your situation?
> > >
> > > http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1118
> > >
> > > Russell
> > > --
> > > Russell Keith,
> > > 1978 E2 "Harry" 403 (still carbureted), Danny Dunn Tranny, Thorley,
> Stock
> > > Brakes w/Remote Vacuum Brake Booster, Quad Bags, Dakota Digital Dash,
> 6.5 kW
> > > Onan, Dunedin, Florida
> > >
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> >
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> > 1976 Palm Beach
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> East Tennessee
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All, I am currently rebuilding my front end, not because it was giving any
trouble, just because it still had all original bushing, ball joints, etc.
Anyway, I have the hubs seperated, the top A arm off, and the bottom A arm
free from the frame however the torsion bar does not seem to want to let go
of the A arm. (of couse I did unload the torsion bar at the pork chops
first) So now the pork chops are loose, and the bottom A arms are loose,
however neither the pork chop nor the A arm wants to let go of the torsion
bar. Any thoughts? Tomorrow morning I am planning on putting my slide
hammer thorough the front A arm to frame bolt hole and see if I can slide
hammer the A arm off of the bar... of course both sides are in the exact
same state of disassembly with both lower A arms needing to let go of the
torsion bars. Some additional information, if I wiggle the A arm up and
down you can feel the torsion bar move just a little inside A arm.

Thanks,

Rich

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 10:27 PM James Hupy via Gmclist <

> Not an exact result. The threads on the adjustment bolt add up to that, but
> the old bugaboo "stiction" rears its ugly head. But, it's a good place to
> start.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 7:20 PM Charles Boyd via Gmclist <

>
> > Sir, 6 turns = ~1" raise.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

> > > That was the next item Jim K. suggested when I called and talked to
> him.
> > > I need 1 1/8 " on the left side and 1" on the right side to be in spec.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 10:27 AM Russell Keith via Gmclist <

> > >
> > > > Bruce,
> > > > Would the adjustable pork chop help with your situation?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1118
> > > >
> > > > Russell
> > > > --
> > > > Russell Keith,
> > > > 1978 E2 "Harry" 403 (still carbureted), Danny Dunn Tranny, Thorley,
> > Stock
> > > > Brakes w/Remote Vacuum Brake Booster, Quad Bags, Dakota Digital
> Dash,
> > 6.5 kW
> > > > Onan, Dunedin, Florida
> > > >
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> > >
> > >
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> > > 1976 Palm Beach
> > > Milliken, Co
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> > 76 Crestmont
> > East Tennessee
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Finally got the extended threaded torsion bolt. Miscommunication, post
office error, but got the bolt on Saturday the 23.
For what ever reason I went ahead and maxed out the threads, went for a
cruise over several dips and remeasured the ride height
Front left 13 1/8
Front right 13 3/16
Rear left 11 11/16
Rear right 11 5/8

Rear ride height was obtained by air suspension system.

Will need to test run some more before coach goes back to owner in Colorado
Springs, Co.

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 8:27 PM James Hupy via Gmclist <

> Not an exact result. The threads on the adjustment bolt add up to that, but
> the old bugaboo "stiction" rears its ugly head. But, it's a good place to
> start.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 7:20 PM Charles Boyd via Gmclist <

>
> > Sir, 6 turns = ~1" raise.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

> > > That was the next item Jim K. suggested when I called and talked to
> him.
> > > I need 1 1/8 " on the left side and 1" on the right side to be in spec.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 10:27 AM Russell Keith via Gmclist <

> > >
> > > > Bruce,
> > > > Would the adjustable pork chop help with your situation?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1118
> > > >
> > > > Russell
> > > > --
> > > > Russell Keith,
> > > > 1978 E2 "Harry" 403 (still carbureted), Danny Dunn Tranny, Thorley,
> > Stock
> > > > Brakes w/Remote Vacuum Brake Booster, Quad Bags, Dakota Digital
> Dash,
> > 6.5 kW
> > > > Onan, Dunedin, Florida
> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bruce Hart
> > > 1976 Palm Beach
> > > Milliken, Co
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> >
> > --
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> > 76 Crestmont
> > East Tennessee
> >
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1976 Palm Beach
Milliken, Co
GMC=Got More Class
 
Rich, my first try on getting torsion bars off the arm was the same
experience that you are having. Somehow I was able to get a little
movement and than I would work the bar back and forth and every time would
get a little more movement until it finally came all the way out.

> Finally got the extended threaded torsion bolt. Miscommunication, post
> office error, but got the bolt on Saturday the 23.
> For what ever reason I went ahead and maxed out the threads, went for a
> cruise over several dips and remeasured the ride height
> Front left 13 1/8
> Front right 13 3/16
> Rear left 11 11/16
> Rear right 11 5/8
>
> Rear ride height was obtained by air suspension system.
>
> Will need to test run some more before coach goes back to owner in
> Colorado Springs, Co.
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 8:27 PM James Hupy via Gmclist <

>
>> Not an exact result. The threads on the adjustment bolt add up to that,
>> but
>> the old bugaboo "stiction" rears its ugly head. But, it's a good place to
>> start.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Oregon
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 7:20 PM Charles Boyd via Gmclist <

>>
>> > Sir, 6 turns = ~1" raise.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >

>> > > That was the next item Jim K. suggested when I called and talked to
>> him.
>> > > I need 1 1/8 " on the left side and 1" on the right side to be in
>> spec.
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 10:27 AM Russell Keith via Gmclist <

>> > >
>> > > > Bruce,
>> > > > Would the adjustable pork chop help with your situation?
>> > > >
>> > > > http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1118
>> > > >
>> > > > Russell
>> > > > --
>> > > > Russell Keith,
>> > > > 1978 E2 "Harry" 403 (still carbureted), Danny Dunn Tranny, Thorley,
>> > Stock
>> > > > Brakes w/Remote Vacuum Brake Booster, Quad Bags, Dakota Digital
>> Dash,
>> > 6.5 kW
>> > > > Onan, Dunedin, Florida
>> > > >
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>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Bruce Hart
>> > > 1976 Palm Beach
>> > > Milliken, Co
>> > > GMC=Got More Class
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>> >
>> > --
>> > C. Boyd
>> > 76 Crestmont
>> > East Tennessee
>> >
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>
>
> --
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> 1976 Palm Beach
> Milliken, Co
> GMC=Got More Class
>
>

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1976 Palm Beach
Milliken, Co
GMC=Got More Class
 
Vibrate impact them apart.

Sully
Bellevue wa

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 5:19 PM Bruce Hart via Gmclist <

> Rich, my first try on getting torsion bars off the arm was the same
> experience that you are having. Somehow I was able to get a little
> movement and than I would work the bar back and forth and every time would
> get a little more movement until it finally came all the way out.
>

>
> > Finally got the extended threaded torsion bolt. Miscommunication, post
> > office error, but got the bolt on Saturday the 23.
> > For what ever reason I went ahead and maxed out the threads, went for a
> > cruise over several dips and remeasured the ride height
> > Front left 13 1/8
> > Front right 13 3/16
> > Rear left 11 11/16
> > Rear right 11 5/8
> >
> > Rear ride height was obtained by air suspension system.
> >
> > Will need to test run some more before coach goes back to owner in
> > Colorado Springs, Co.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 8:27 PM James Hupy via Gmclist <

> >
> >> Not an exact result. The threads on the adjustment bolt add up to that,
> >> but
> >> the old bugaboo "stiction" rears its ugly head. But, it's a good place
> to
> >> start.
> >> Jim Hupy
> >> Salem, Oregon
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 7:20 PM Charles Boyd via Gmclist <

> >>
> >> > Sir, 6 turns = ~1" raise.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >

> >> > > That was the next item Jim K. suggested when I called and talked to
> >> him.
> >> > > I need 1 1/8 " on the left side and 1" on the right side to be in
> >> spec.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 10:27 AM Russell Keith via Gmclist <

> >> > >
> >> > > > Bruce,
> >> > > > Would the adjustable pork chop help with your situation?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1118
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Russell
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Russell Keith,
> >> > > > 1978 E2 "Harry" 403 (still carbureted), Danny Dunn Tranny,
> Thorley,
> >> > Stock
> >> > > > Brakes w/Remote Vacuum Brake Booster, Quad Bags, Dakota Digital
> >> Dash,
> >> > 6.5 kW
> >> > > > Onan, Dunedin, Florida
> >> > > >
> >> > > > _______________________________________________
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> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Bruce Hart
> >> > > 1976 Palm Beach
> >> > > Milliken, Co
> >> > > GMC=Got More Class
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> >> >
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> >> > 76 Crestmont
> >> > East Tennessee
> >> >
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> >
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> > Bruce Hart
> > 1976 Palm Beach
> > Milliken, Co
> > GMC=Got More Class
> >
> >
>
> --
> Bruce Hart
> 1976 Palm Beach
> Milliken, Co
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The torsion bars have likely been there for 40 years. The old soap based
grease, is now thoroughly mixed with road grime, and very hard and thick.
Use something to dissolve the crud in there. Your choice of solvents. I use
red can brake kleen. But other stuff will work as well. Spray the hell out
of it, and let it sit, then wiggle the heck out of it. Get serious with
wrestling with it. It will come apart. JWID.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019, 5:51 PM Todd Sullivan via Gmclist <

> Vibrate impact them apart.
>
> Sully
> Bellevue wa
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 5:19 PM Bruce Hart via Gmclist <

>
> > Rich, my first try on getting torsion bars off the arm was the same
> > experience that you are having. Somehow I was able to get a little
> > movement and than I would work the bar back and forth and every time
> would
> > get a little more movement until it finally came all the way out.
> >

> >
> > > Finally got the extended threaded torsion bolt. Miscommunication, post
> > > office error, but got the bolt on Saturday the 23.
> > > For what ever reason I went ahead and maxed out the threads, went for a
> > > cruise over several dips and remeasured the ride height
> > > Front left 13 1/8
> > > Front right 13 3/16
> > > Rear left 11 11/16
> > > Rear right 11 5/8
> > >
> > > Rear ride height was obtained by air suspension system.
> > >
> > > Will need to test run some more before coach goes back to owner in
> > > Colorado Springs, Co.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 8:27 PM James Hupy via Gmclist <

> > >
> > >> Not an exact result. The threads on the adjustment bolt add up to
> that,
> > >> but
> > >> the old bugaboo "stiction" rears its ugly head. But, it's a good place
> > to
> > >> start.
> > >> Jim Hupy
> > >> Salem, Oregon
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 7:20 PM Charles Boyd via Gmclist <

> > >>
> > >> > Sir, 6 turns = ~1" raise.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >

> > >> > > That was the next item Jim K. suggested when I called and talked
> to
> > >> him.
> > >> > > I need 1 1/8 " on the left side and 1" on the right side to be in
> > >> spec.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 10:27 AM Russell Keith via Gmclist <

> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Bruce,
> > >> > > > Would the adjustable pork chop help with your situation?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1118
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Russell
> > >> > > > --
> > >> > > > Russell Keith,
> > >> > > > 1978 E2 "Harry" 403 (still carbureted), Danny Dunn Tranny,
> > Thorley,
> > >> > Stock
> > >> > > > Brakes w/Remote Vacuum Brake Booster, Quad Bags, Dakota Digital
> > >> Dash,
> > >> > 6.5 kW
> > >> > > > Onan, Dunedin, Florida
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Bruce Hart
> > >> > > 1976 Palm Beach
> > >> > > Milliken, Co
> > >> > > GMC=Got More Class
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In the one corner, is the crusted old torsion bar, looking determined not
to be beaten. In the other corner is his challenger, tenacious with a "not
going to beat me" attitude, that and a nice cup of hot coffee! I shall
squirt the heck out of them and then ring the fight bell. I'll let you know
how it ends up.....

Rich

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 1:35 AM James Hupy via Gmclist <

> The torsion bars have likely been there for 40 years. The old soap based
> grease, is now thoroughly mixed with road grime, and very hard and thick.
> Use something to dissolve the crud in there. Your choice of solvents. I use
> red can brake kleen. But other stuff will work as well. Spray the hell out
> of it, and let it sit, then wiggle the heck out of it. Get serious with
> wrestling with it. It will come apart. JWID.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019, 5:51 PM Todd Sullivan via Gmclist <

>
> > Vibrate impact them apart.
> >
> > Sully
> > Bellevue wa
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 5:19 PM Bruce Hart via Gmclist <

> >
> > > Rich, my first try on getting torsion bars off the arm was the same
> > > experience that you are having. Somehow I was able to get a little
> > > movement and than I would work the bar back and forth and every time
> > would
> > > get a little more movement until it finally came all the way out.
> > >

> > >
> > > > Finally got the extended threaded torsion bolt. Miscommunication,
> post
> > > > office error, but got the bolt on Saturday the 23.
> > > > For what ever reason I went ahead and maxed out the threads, went
> for a
> > > > cruise over several dips and remeasured the ride height
> > > > Front left 13 1/8
> > > > Front right 13 3/16
> > > > Rear left 11 11/16
> > > > Rear right 11 5/8
> > > >
> > > > Rear ride height was obtained by air suspension system.
> > > >
> > > > Will need to test run some more before coach goes back to owner in
> > > > Colorado Springs, Co.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 8:27 PM James Hupy via Gmclist <

> > > >
> > > >> Not an exact result. The threads on the adjustment bolt add up to
> > that,
> > > >> but
> > > >> the old bugaboo "stiction" rears its ugly head. But, it's a good
> place
> > > to
> > > >> start.
> > > >> Jim Hupy
> > > >> Salem, Oregon
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 7:20 PM Charles Boyd via Gmclist <

> > > >>
> > > >> > Sir, 6 turns = ~1" raise.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >

> > > >> > > That was the next item Jim K. suggested when I called and talked
> > to
> > > >> him.
> > > >> > > I need 1 1/8 " on the left side and 1" on the right side to be
> in
> > > >> spec.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 10:27 AM Russell Keith via Gmclist <

> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > Bruce,
> > > >> > > > Would the adjustable pork chop help with your situation?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1118
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Russell
> > > >> > > > --
> > > >> > > > Russell Keith,
> > > >> > > > 1978 E2 "Harry" 403 (still carbureted), Danny Dunn Tranny,
> > > Thorley,
> > > >> > Stock
> > > >> > > > Brakes w/Remote Vacuum Brake Booster, Quad Bags, Dakota
> Digital
> > > >> Dash,
> > > >> > 6.5 kW
> > > >> > > > Onan, Dunedin, Florida
> > > >> > > >
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> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > --
> > > >> > > Bruce Hart
> > > >> > > 1976 Palm Beach
> > > >> > > Milliken, Co
> > > >> > > GMC=Got More Class
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> > > >> >
> > > >> > --
> > > >> > C. Boyd
> > > >> > 76 Crestmont
> > > >> > East Tennessee
> > > >> >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Bruce Hart
> > > > 1976 Palm Beach
> > > > Milliken, Co
> > > > GMC=Got More Class
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bruce Hart
> > > 1976 Palm Beach
> > > Milliken, Co
> > > GMC=Got More Class
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Gratituitous use of a Manny T. "Precision Adjustment Device", better known
as a big hammer, is sometimes required. (Grin)
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019, 3:23 AM Rich Kinas via Gmclist <

> In the one corner, is the crusted old torsion bar, looking determined not
> to be beaten. In the other corner is his challenger, tenacious with a "not
> going to beat me" attitude, that and a nice cup of hot coffee! I shall
> squirt the heck out of them and then ring the fight bell. I'll let you know
> how it ends up.....
>
> Rich
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 1:35 AM James Hupy via Gmclist <

>
> > The torsion bars have likely been there for 40 years. The old soap based
> > grease, is now thoroughly mixed with road grime, and very hard and thick.
> > Use something to dissolve the crud in there. Your choice of solvents. I
> use
> > red can brake kleen. But other stuff will work as well. Spray the hell
> out
> > of it, and let it sit, then wiggle the heck out of it. Get serious with
> > wrestling with it. It will come apart. JWID.
> > Jim Hupy
> > Salem, Oregon
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019, 5:51 PM Todd Sullivan via Gmclist <

> >
> > > Vibrate impact them apart.
> > >
> > > Sully
> > > Bellevue wa
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 5:19 PM Bruce Hart via Gmclist <

> > >
> > > > Rich, my first try on getting torsion bars off the arm was the same
> > > > experience that you are having. Somehow I was able to get a little
> > > > movement and than I would work the bar back and forth and every time
> > > would
> > > > get a little more movement until it finally came all the way out.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 6:14 PM Bruce Hart

> > > >
> > > > > Finally got the extended threaded torsion bolt. Miscommunication,
> > post
> > > > > office error, but got the bolt on Saturday the 23.
> > > > > For what ever reason I went ahead and maxed out the threads, went
> > for a
> > > > > cruise over several dips and remeasured the ride height
> > > > > Front left 13 1/8
> > > > > Front right 13 3/16
> > > > > Rear left 11 11/16
> > > > > Rear right 11 5/8
> > > > >
> > > > > Rear ride height was obtained by air suspension system.
> > > > >
> > > > > Will need to test run some more before coach goes back to owner in
> > > > > Colorado Springs, Co.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 8:27 PM James Hupy via Gmclist <

> > > > >
> > > > >> Not an exact result. The threads on the adjustment bolt add up to
> > > that,
> > > > >> but
> > > > >> the old bugaboo "stiction" rears its ugly head. But, it's a good
> > place
> > > > to
> > > > >> start.
> > > > >> Jim Hupy
> > > > >> Salem, Oregon
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 7:20 PM Charles Boyd via Gmclist <

> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Sir, 6 turns = ~1" raise.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > > That was the next item Jim K. suggested when I called and
> talked
> > > to
> > > > >> him.
> > > > >> > > I need 1 1/8 " on the left side and 1" on the right side to be
> > in
> > > > >> spec.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 10:27 AM Russell Keith via Gmclist <

> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > Bruce,
> > > > >> > > > Would the adjustable pork chop help with your situation?
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1118
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Russell
> > > > >> > > > --
> > > > >> > > > Russell Keith,
> > > > >> > > > 1978 E2 "Harry" 403 (still carbureted), Danny Dunn Tranny,
> > > > Thorley,
> > > > >> > Stock
> > > > >> > > > Brakes w/Remote Vacuum Brake Booster, Quad Bags, Dakota
> > Digital
> > > > >> Dash,
> > > > >> > 6.5 kW
> > > > >> > > > Onan, Dunedin, Florida
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > >> > > > GMCnet mailing list
> > > > >> > > > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> > > > >> > > >
> > > http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > --
> > > > >> > > Bruce Hart
> > > > >> > > 1976 Palm Beach
> > > > >> > > Milliken, Co
> > > > >> > > GMC=Got More Class
> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________
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> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
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> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > --
> > > > >> > C. Boyd
> > > > >> > 76 Crestmont
> > > > >> > East Tennessee
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > _______________________________________________
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Bruce Hart
> > > > > 1976 Palm Beach
> > > > > Milliken, Co
> > > > > GMC=Got More Class
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Bruce Hart
> > > > 1976 Palm Beach
> > > > Milliken, Co
> > > > GMC=Got More Class
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