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Ken B

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Soak the pork chop end with Kroil for a couple of days.
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Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
Ken, are you sure that you don't mean the Control Arm End of the torsion
bar socket?
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019, 9:59 AM Ken Burton via Gmclist <

> Soak the pork chop end with Kroil for a couple of days.
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And I triumphed! Just connected my slide hammer thorough the front frame to a-arm mount and went at it. It took about 30 good wacks but it eventually yielded. Just wrestled the bushings out of the lower a-arms. Still working on the top a-arm bushings. Can’t get the steel bushing/caps off the bushings. Will start sand blasting this weekend. Lots of excitement.

Rich

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>
> Ken, are you sure that you don't mean the Control Arm End of the torsion
> bar socket?
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019, 9:59 AM Ken Burton via Gmclist <

>
>> Soak the pork chop end with Kroil for a couple of days.
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>> Hebron, Indiana
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I said the pork chop end because I thought he said in a previous posting that the bar was wiggling in the LCA socket. I thought the thing was stuck
in the pork chop end. Soak them both if necessary.

I'm sorry if I misunderstood.

If it is the pork chop that is stuck I have another idea. How about a small to medium 2 jaw gear puller. Hook the arms to the frame and push through
the hole using a small socket for the center screw to supply force on the end of the torsion bar.

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Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
Richard,

Make sure you support the ears of the upper arms when pressing in the new
bushings as they bend easily.

Sully
Bellevue wa.

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 2:42 PM Richard Kinas via Gmclist <

> And I triumphed! Just connected my slide hammer thorough the front frame
> to a-arm mount and went at it. It took about 30 good wacks but it
> eventually yielded. Just wrestled the bushings out of the lower a-arms.
> Still working on the top a-arm bushings. Can’t get the steel bushing/caps
> off the bushings. Will start sand blasting this weekend. Lots of excitement.
>
> Rich
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 27, 2019, at 1:53 PM, James Hupy via Gmclist <

> >
> > Ken, are you sure that you don't mean the Control Arm End of the torsion
> > bar socket?
> > Jim Hupy
> > Salem, Oregon
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019, 9:59 AM Ken Burton via Gmclist <

> >
> >> Soak the pork chop end with Kroil for a couple of days.
> >> --
> >> Ken Burton - N9KB
> >> 76 Palm Beach
> >> Hebron, Indiana
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I use a hack saw and cut the steel part of the bushing in half.

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 4:34 PM Todd Sullivan via Gmclist <

> Richard,
>
> Make sure you support the ears of the upper arms when pressing in the new
> bushings as they bend easily.
>
> Sully
> Bellevue wa.
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 2:42 PM Richard Kinas via Gmclist <

>
> > And I triumphed! Just connected my slide hammer thorough the front frame
> > to a-arm mount and went at it. It took about 30 good wacks but it
> > eventually yielded. Just wrestled the bushings out of the lower a-arms.
> > Still working on the top a-arm bushings. Can’t get the steel bushing/caps
> > off the bushings. Will start sand blasting this weekend. Lots of
> excitement.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Nov 27, 2019, at 1:53 PM, James Hupy via Gmclist <

> > >
> > > Ken, are you sure that you don't mean the Control Arm End of the
> torsion
> > > bar socket?
> > > Jim Hupy
> > > Salem, Oregon
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019, 9:59 AM Ken Burton via Gmclist <

> > >
> > >> Soak the pork chop end with Kroil for a couple of days.
> > >> --
> > >> Ken Burton - N9KB
> > >> 76 Palm Beach
> > >> Hebron, Indiana
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Bruce Hart
1976 Palm Beach
Milliken, Co
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I would suggest using Urethane bushings from Energy Suspension and probably Jim K. as he seems to have everything GMC.

It is much easier and you do not have to press out the old steel using those special spacers. Also the bushing will last longer than the coach will.
I used a vice to easily press the new urethane ones in. You can almost do them by hand without a vice.

I sure make the job a lot easier.
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Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
I had already decided to use the polyurethane for a lot of reasons. My
current problem is that the inner sleeve and end washers on the top a-arm
are not wanting to come out, and I cant really seem to figure out how to go
about this. I'm planning on trying some things this morning, dont know if
any of them will work. If anyone has any ideas please forward them. I'll be
checking my mail later. Thanks one and all and Happy Thanksgiving!

Rich

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 6:44 AM Ken Burton via Gmclist <

> I would suggest using Urethane bushings from Energy Suspension and
> probably Jim K. as he seems to have everything GMC.
>
> It is much easier and you do not have to press out the old steel using
> those special spacers. Also the bushing will last longer than the coach
> will.
> I used a vice to easily press the new urethane ones in. You can almost
> do them by hand without a vice.
>
> I sure make the job a lot easier.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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Rich,

I am a little confused as to where you are in the removal process. Have you got the A-frame(s) removed from the vehicle at this point?

If so then you are trying to remove the rubber and inner sleeve from the outer sleeve. Heat the the outer sleeve (propane will do) to get the rubber
to release from the outer sleeve. After that simply press, with a vice, the rubber part out of the outer sleeve. Then clean up the inside of the
outer sleeve and press in the new urethane bushings. This is all for memory and I did this at least 10 years ago.

I added an additional step. I bead blasted the entire A-frame(s) and repainted them except inside the sleeves. I believe I brush painted them with
Black Rustoleum. I may have spray painted them. It has been long enough ago that I really do not remember, other than I painted the entire a-frames
prior to installing the new urethane bushings.
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Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
I agree that I need to get better at my descriptions...So the A-arms are
off the coach, and i just got the bushings out of the top A-arm. After
looking as some internet pics and a strong flashlight I could see that
there was a small lip on the external washers of these bushing, so i just
inserted a piece of all thread 1/2 I think and tapped on these lips
(tap...tap...tap...wack) and they popped right apart. (I inserted the all
thread from one side of the bushing and tapped on the lip of the other
bushing. Once all of these washers were off I just used the 12inch or so
piece of all-thread rod with a large receiving socket on the outside of the
A-arm (for the bushing to push into) and a smaller socket to push on the
bushing so the assembly was (from outside to inside)
Nut-Nut-washer-socket-bushing-socket-washer-nut or in graphical terms
--[]-|-[pushing socket]-[bushing]-[receiving socket]-|-[]-[]----. Two nuts
back to back so you could jam (tighten them toward each other) them to hold
the all-thread steady when needed. Receiving socket was bigger than bushing
and pushing socket was just smaller than bushing. Once it was all together
I jamed the two nuts together and then just held the inner jamed nut with
an openend wrench and then used another openend wrench to thighten the bolt
on the pushing socket and the bushing pushed right out. Did this on all
bushings, no need for a press, and you keep a much better feel for whats
going on during hte process so you can stop and adjust as necessary. Maybe
this will help sombody. Anyway today is sand blasting and painting day. Fun
Stuff...

Rich

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 8:37 PM Ken Burton via Gmclist <

> Rich,
>
> I am a little confused as to where you are in the removal process. Have
> you got the A-frame(s) removed from the vehicle at this point?
>
> If so then you are trying to remove the rubber and inner sleeve from the
> outer sleeve. Heat the the outer sleeve (propane will do) to get the
> rubber
> to release from the outer sleeve. After that simply press, with a vice,
> the rubber part out of the outer sleeve. Then clean up the inside of the
> outer sleeve and press in the new urethane bushings. This is all for
> memory and I did this at least 10 years ago.
>
> I added an additional step. I bead blasted the entire A-frame(s) and
> repainted them except inside the sleeves. I believe I brush painted them
> with
> Black Rustoleum. I may have spray painted them. It has been long enough
> ago that I really do not remember, other than I painted the entire a-frames
> prior to installing the new urethane bushings.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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It probably is not your descriptions. I just wanted to make sure we were talking about the same thing. Many times I misunderstand exactly what
someone is doing and then I post information that does not apply to the problem at hand. The important thing is you got it apart and you are on your
way.

At the moment I have my trans, final drive, and one half shaft in the back of my PU truck. I am headed to Indy this afternoon with them. Tomorrow,
with the help of another GMCer, I will learn how to fix all three of these. I also have two gas tanks from someone else's GMC to deliver to a
stripper. All of this is stuff I have never done before but with their help, I hopefully will learn and fix them.

Good Luck on your project.

Ken B.
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Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
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